I am so glad I left a few months ago.

Quote from: trek on March 13, 2018, 16:57

Quote from: Chichikov on March 13, 2018, 16:39

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Quote from: Chichikov on March 13, 2018, 06:10
Exciting new: yesterday I have made a sale for $0.08!
123EF, the New iStock with 10 times less sales but with the same low commissions...

Are you opted in for partner sales?

You know, I don't find where it is indicated on the site...
But I never had a sale for such a low amount before.

Check account settings.  Payment details.

Thank you, I did not see it.

I've emailed them, but no reply. We should have heard that "exciting news" announcement and how it affects contributors by now.

Also their royalty page is still out of date: https://www.123rf.com/contrib_structure.php

Amazing how telling people how they will be paid is at the bottom of the to-do list.

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on February 07, 2018, 09:46
Huh this is what they have to say for themselves

"Thank you for your email.

As part of an initial phase, the 2nd and 4th Tier has been removed from the previous Contributor Commission Structure. We understand that these changes have caused a lot of concern among Contributors but rest assured, the coming phase would be good news for Contributors.

All the changes will be conveyed in full in an official announcement once all the phases are deployed, which is estimated to be around the end of March 2018.

Please bear with us in the meantime and do look out for the official announcement from us.

Best regards,
Your Submissions & Review Team"

So, the end of March had come and gone and I have yet to see any official announcement, nor what this good news to contributors will be.  I also dropped from level 4 to level 2 and stopped uploading pending this announcement. Anyone with more info?

Is there a way to delete single images on 123RF but leave one to leave the account open? With obvious crooks (e.g., Depositphotos) I like to do that so that I at least have some form of record that they claim there are no more sales.

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on April 05, 2018, 09:24
Is there a way to delete single images on 123RF but leave one to leave the account open? With obvious crooks (e.g., Depositphotos) I like to do that so that I at least have some form of record that they claim there are no more sales.

Click on upload in the footer. Then click on 5 (Manage Media) . Then click on Remove beside each image. Images can only be deleted one at a time so it's a bit of a chore.

Quote from: Microstock Posts on April 05, 2018, 10:01

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on April 05, 2018, 09:24
Is there a way to delete single images on 123RF but leave one to leave the account open? With obvious crooks (e.g., Depositphotos) I like to do that so that I at least have some form of record that they claim there are no more sales.

Click on upload in the footer. Then click on 5 (Manage Media) . Then click on Remove beside each image. Images can only be deleted one at a time so it's a bit of a chore.

Thank you! Chore indeed, but at least it's possible.

https://www.123rf.com/contrib_structure.php - so they removed some info again from this page, but basically its still useless.

It says:

"The tables below list the License Points that you get with each download:"

Then there are no tables below...

0.09 here too. Step closer to delete account at depositphotos.

Forget about this crap, stopped uploading there 4 months ago.

I started to delete my images. It's too much. I am tired of being treated this way.

"End of march" has passed for two weeks and no announcement in sight. I guess they hope we all forget about the royalty cuts and move on...

123rf D-Day

I suggest we all send them a message demanding an immediate and straight answer. 

Quote from: fotorob on April 12, 2018, 07:49
"End of march" has passed for two weeks and no announcement in sight. I guess they hope we all forget about the royalty cuts and move on...

and it even looks like it's happening.

very few people talk about it.

Quote from: Eco on April 12, 2018, 08:45
I suggest we all send them a message demanding an immediate and straight answer. 

Forget it, people are here to lament and whine, not to unite for the common interest...

Quote from: Chichikov on April 12, 2018, 11:50

Quote from: Eco on April 12, 2018, 08:45
I suggest we all send them a message demanding an immediate and straight answer. 

Forget it, people are here to lament and whine, not to unite for the common interest...

Exactly. Even more: it is extremely unlikely that so many strangers will ever unite to defend "common interest".
Even for perfectly rational people, immediate self-interest is always perceived as more important than common interest. It is just human nature.

We are in a typical "Prisoner's Dilemma"

Quote from: Eco on April 12, 2018, 08:45
I suggest we all send them a message demanding an immediate and straight answer. 

^This. I have already emailed and asked them on Twitter. I think everyone needs to do the same, preferably in a public place like Twitter or Facebook.

There is no point in asking them for "answers" - they've already told you everything you need to know by their actions thus far.

Removal of large quantities of images would get their attention - if anything would induce them to change their mind, and it's possible that nothing would - think the late, not-so-great Dollar Photo Club. Think about what you want them to do - restore the old rate schedule, for example - and set a date by which they do that or the images get removed.

Anything less is a waste of energy. My view is moot as I left the agency when my royalty rate dropped from 45% to 40% because they're not doing well on the sales front but their failures affect my royalty rates.

I'm guessing they're trying to prep the business for a sale so they can get out. It's possible they don't want a contributor revolt as it would put buyers off, so they might act. I doubt that the fundamentals of the business would improve even if they did put the royalty rates back where they were, so it might well be a victory with not much of a contributor benefit. They don't appear to be investing in the business, or advertising in Google searches (you used to see their ads and thumbnails, but now hardly at all)

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on April 12, 2018, 21:08
There is no point in asking them for "answers" - they've already told you everything you need to know by their actions thus far.

Removal of large quantities of images would get their attention - if anything would induce them to change their mind, and it's possible that nothing would - think the late, not-so-great Dollar Photo Club. Think about what you want them to do - restore the old rate schedule, for example - and set a date by which they do that or the images get removed.

Anything less is a waste of energy. My view is moot as I left the agency when my royalty rate dropped from 45% to 40% because they're not doing well on the sales front but their failures affect my royalty rates.

I'm guessing they're trying to prep the business for a sale so they can get out. It's possible they don't want a contributor revolt as it would put buyers off, so they might act. I doubt that the fundamentals of the business would improve even if they did put the royalty rates back where they were, so it might well be a victory with not much of a contributor benefit. They don't appear to be investing in the business, or advertising in Google searches (you used to see their ads and thumbnails, but now hardly at all)

Completely agree. Their reaction was pretty obvious, the last thing we need is some more half baked justifications. Personally I stoped uploading new material and if/when the end of the month numbers go below a certain threshold I won't hesitate to pull the plug.

How to delete single or more images on 123rf?

Quote from: Stockmaan on April 16, 2018, 17:42
How to delete single or more images on 123rf?

Click on upload in the footer. Then click on 5 (Manage Media). Then click on Remove beside each image.

Yeah, I've had enough - this, their finance team, their contributor support, everything. I'm removing all my photos.

There's not anything more that I can do, I closed my account.

Quote from: thx9000 on April 12, 2018, 22:05
Completely agree. Their reaction was pretty obvious, the last thing we need is some more half baked justifications. Personally I stoped uploading new material and if/when the end of the month numbers go below a certain threshold I won't hesitate to pull the plug.

I guess this is going to be sooner than I expected. My sales this month are a 1/3 of the usual. Combined with the lower commissions there'll be barely enough to withdraw.