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How are the earnings going?

Started by stockman11, January 18, 2019, 20:32

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pancaketom

Pretty awful - back to about the amount I made with something like 20-25% of the images that I have now. Almost every day this month could be a weekend day there. I sure hope all the sales aren't going to Getty.
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Dumc


stockman11

Maybe it's too early in a month to tell, but it seems that my earnings are keeping going down. And they looked so promising until that Getty deal...

I know that they prioritize their own earnings, but suffocating contributors with that Getty deal, the same contributors which enabled their success, is ethically a very questionable thing to do.

I wonder what will be the next "exciting news". Maybe contributor portal, which is supposed to cheer us up, but that's like somebody screwing us over and then giving us a candy (and making us wait for that candy for months). At this point, contributor portal is not just irrelevant - it's almost insulting.

pancaketom

9 days into the month and Dreamstime has more than twice the earnings (and it isn't like DT is on track to have a stellar month). So far every day could have been a weekend day. I don't know what it is, but something really changed there for me around the second half to end of last year and it wasn't for the better. The Getty deal would explain it. Maybe it is good for Canva, but it just seems like everything they touch gets ruined.
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nomore

#54
Earnings were very good and growing until mid 2018. Stable but still good until December. Very bad in January and February. March started even worse.

nomore

#55
Quote from: stockman11 on March 09, 2019, 21:23
I know that they prioritize their own earnings, but suffocating contributors with that Getty deal, the same contributors which enabled their success, is ethically a very questionable thing to do.

I'm sure they couldn't care less about being "ethical". But they should at least care about their own long-term survival. If they manage to turn away all of their own contributors and become a vassal of Getty, they are pushing themselves into irrelevance. Getty can decide their fate in a minute.

stockman11


stockman11

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sgoodwin4813

So far this month they are second for me.  They were really great in 2016 - fighting for first place with SS, but have dropped dramatically and now usually around 40% of what they were that year.

I just got a big batch reviewed and what is more worrying is that they used to accept almost everything, but in the last batch, rejected almost everything, including virtually all isolations.  I spend an extra 20 seconds on every isolation to make a PNG just for them but it won't be worth it if they start rejecting them all.  Part of their USP was that you could easily make compositions with isolations that are submitted as PNGs.  Those will not be available from iStock so not sure why they are now rejecting everything that used to be accepted almost 100%.  Other rejections also seem totally random - they will accept one and then reject others that are shot under similar conditions, and the (S) rejection provides no information about why.  I guess it doesn't matter too much anyway, because I only seem to get downloads there on images submitted more than two years ago - new images seem to get no traction.  I really had high hopes for them in 2016 but I guess it was too much to expect it to last.

SS has just about died as well - they are no. 3 so far this month, with Adobe in the lead for the first time ever.  Usually Canva starts out ahead and then gets beaten by SS but so far no SODs (even low-value ones), ELs or clip sales and they can't catch Canva on subs and the occasional OD, which this month are 1/21 DLs compared to 1 every 8 or 10 DLs in a good month.  Overall so far this is my worst month since 2012.  Rapidly getting to the point where it is no longer worth the effort.

Dumc

Terrible month. Seems that everything that Getty touches, gets destroyed.

Justanotherphotographer

Terrible, first big decline last month. I assume thanks to the IStock deal where contributors on IS are getting a couple of cents per dl instead of a much better return direct. So thanks again IStock (and Canva too I guess for getting into bed with them).

jonbull

STARTED IN OCTOBER WTH JUST 200 300 FILEs, and had 25 dollar the first month, thinking it could become a second agency after ss near stock and adobe, then noveber more than 35 and till half december a lot of sale for 3,5 dollar....then after 15 december sudden death. january february and march not more than 10 dollar combined and in stock a lot of sales from partner for 0,18 coming mostly from asia.  now i have 400 images compared to 10 k in other images and stopped uploading total waste of time. really everything getty   become crap.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: jonbull on April 02, 2019, 18:30
STARTED IN OCTOBER WTH JUST 200 300 FILEs, and had 25 dollar the first month, thinking it could become a second agency after ss near stock and adobe, then noveber more than 35 and till half december a lot of sale for 3,5 dollar....then after 15 december sudden death. january february and march not more than 10 dollar combined and in stock a lot of sales from partner for 0,18 coming mostly from asia.  now i have 400 images compared to 10 k in other images and stopped uploading total waste of time. really everything getty   become crap.

And to think that a year ago I was thinking I should really be working at Canva. Now I'm happy I didn't punish myself by joining.  8)
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PZF

#64
What a sad end. They no longer need us as contributors - just link to IS.

Basically, we can choose to submit to them (a small agency with opaque acceptance criteria apart from those trendy 'aesthetic' images) to get 35c a time or IS (who pay a pittance per image but at least the total can be decent).

It stinks.




Smilla

Very sad.
Had a good run but now down to about 5-10% of what I used to earn on there.
Not worth uploading to any longer.

Chichikov


Dumc


Fairplay

Huge drop in sales!
They don't care about us contributors and our income. I won't upload new images anymore. It's not worth it for few more bucks.

tiero

Sales have dropped a lot and moreover they now reject me almost every image I send. :(

Sean Locke Photography

Crash! 

At 3/5s of the month gone, I'm sitting at 10% of last year's April total.

Dumc


pancaketom

Quote from: Dumc on April 22, 2019, 19:39
Check this out

As I understand it, those are sales that are not US$ - so it might be some currency that is worth 18 to the US$ but they report it this way. I sure hope so. It has been a while since I got more than 0.35 for a sale there.
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davidbautista

Quote from: pancaketom on April 22, 2019, 22:33
Quote from: Dumc on April 22, 2019, 19:39
Check this out

As I understand it, those are sales that are not US$ - so it might be some currency that is worth 18 to the US$ but they report it this way. I sure hope so. It has been a while since I got more than 0.35 for a sale there.
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stockman11

I think I can say this month is the worst in quite some time. Seems like Canva is continuing to go down.

And not just that they screwed contributors with the Getty deal, they, as someone previously said, are pushing themselves into irrelevance. They could have been great stand alone site, but they instead of that chosen to be a Getty's extension. Instead of having all the great sellers, which they could appropriately categorize to make it easier for the customers, they instead decided to delete and reject almost everything, and now to rely on Getty's library. Who in the world makes those "decisions" for them? Being a good marketer doesn't mean being a good planner and strategist, especially not in the long term.