Just for grins I thought I'd search for the capital cities of each of the emerging market sites to see how much local content was left out. I just can't make any sense of the notion that these cuts in the collection have to do with culturally appropriate curated content.

Search term	USA site	New sites
Cairo	55,106	374
Ankara	30,889	73
Jakarta	30,595	84
Kuala Lumpur	67,800	189
Riyadh	12,293	77

Seems like AS just got busted.

In my opinion, this looks like something is broken or not controlled well... and have left strong impact on sales...

I also did a little search and informed Adobe support about these issues nobody can understand. Mat also disappears longer than guessed ...  a sign that something is going wrong on Adobe and Mat has to meet the Adobe team before answer anything else here?

Well, my first guess of course, was that Moslem countries are the ones who cannot reach the full content. Then I thought it might be ´only´ poor countries: Indeed difficult to find out, because in the list on change region is a title Europe, Africa, but NO African country is listed - even no South Africa! Then I clicked on Rumania, Hungary and India and Phillippeans, the only little poorer countries I found, but the full content is shown for them. So, is it at least really a religion thing? Strange!

This Geoblocking comes from where and whom? Did Adobe geoblocking these countries from themselves or that countries did not allow Adobe to sell there software in that countries (maybe because these countries are mostly not really like America)


AND:
I tried to find out the ranking of my pics.
I have one serie about a beef calf, partly on Adobe, partly on Adobe via wirestock and on Adobe via eyeEm. Interesting: ALL my pics didn´t appear in which country ever. THAT MEANS: APPROVED IMAGES ON ADOBE IS NO GARANCY FOR APPEARING IN SEARCH RESULTS!
But via my account or via special search I found them from eyeEm online, but not via this normal search. Very strange!

(Just a information beside all this: If you were thinking Selected Partner , which changed to Partner and then usually online on Getty, hey yes, they nearly all also online on Adobe, but for standard license! Not premium as I guessed. so if you only want to upload your best content to best paying agencies: On Adobe via eyeEm you will get only that 35 Cent! and from that only 25% via eyeEm. To avoid that, you should upload them to Adobe first! Then hopefully Adobe do not select that similar images via eyeEm. But anyway: via eyeEm it is not worth it after they also went down with their payment.)

Quote from: kall3bu on May 06, 2021, 09:31This Geoblocking comes from where and whom? Did Adobe geoblocking these countries from themselves or that countries did not allow Adobe to sell there software in that countries (maybe because these countries are mostly not really like America)

As far as I know, it was Adobe's decision to geo-block these countries and still does it for some other countries. I already placed availability link in one of my earlier post here. For all our questions when they are planning to allow us to buy their online subscriptions, public answer was: "We are working to bring Creative Cloud to as many markets as possible." Maybe is harder for Adobe to do business with some countries because of their laws, but I don't think that these countries don't allow Adobe to sell software.

#but I don't think that these countries don't allow Adobe to sell software.#

Yes, I would wonder, too.

Has anybody an idea how long time Mat is away? I do not want suspect that he run away from these questions, because he never did that before. But I think it is really time to get some answers, isn´t it?

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Me too.  Cannot get in.

Quote from: kall3bu on May 06, 2021, 19:47
#but I don't think that these countries don't allow Adobe to sell software.#

Yes, I would wonder, too.

Has anybody an idea how long time Mat is away? I do not want suspect that he run away from these questions, because he never did that before. But I think it is really time to get some answers, isn´t it?

I'm here, I don't have any additional information to share at this time.

-Mat

I'm seeing my work in both existing a new regions at the moment. Less in the new ones though.

The volume of images in all the new regions seem to be the same so I'd imagine it's probably a case of loading so many images at a time and gauging the response both in terms of what customers are buying but also they maybe testing the infrastructure of the new sites before loading them properly. I don't know what's involved in bringing new regions online so I'm not really in a position to doubt their approach.

That said, it would be nice to have all my images available on all sites but I'm not entirely concerned at the moment given their current decisions have resulted in excellent performance for me to date.

Mat, time goes by, questions still not get answered more than ´I have no more information at this moment´.
What about NOW? Any more information for us?
I know that you respect Jo Ann. Why not starting answering her questions first. That would be a good sign and 90% of all questions would be answered.

I don't think there's a lot of point analysing this by checking specific searches yet. Sounds like they are manually going through big contributors' portfolios and okaying images for these territories. I would think there wont be much logic to what is up in those countries in terms of volume until further down the line. These countries' collections will just be whatever has come across the reviewer's screens as they go through the portfolios minus what they censor.

From the explanation and the lists of countries involved my guess is that eventually these countries will end up with the whole collection minus any LGBTQ positive images, any images with what may deemed to have "excessive" skin showing. Maybe even minus anything deemed to be to empowering to women. Of course also anything that could be seen to be criticising specific regimes and their policies. Same old hypocrisy every big tech company does when breaking into these markets (so not a criticism of Adobe above the rest).

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on June 17, 2021, 09:41
I don't think there's a lot of point analysing this by checking specific searches yet. Sounds like they are manually going through big contributors' portfolios and okaying images for these territories. I would think there wont be much logic to what is up in those countries in terms of volume until further down the line. These countries' collections will just be whatever has come across the reviewer's screens as they go through the portfolios minus what they censor.

From the explanation and the lists of countries involved my guess is that eventually these countries will end up with the whole collection minus any LGBTQ positive images, any images with what may deemed to have "excessive" skin showing. Maybe even minus anything deemed to be to empowering to women. Of course also anything that could be seen to be criticising specific regimes and their policies. Same old hypocrisy every big tech company does when breaking into these markets (so not a criticism of Adobe above the rest).

Let us hope, you are right! And if Mat would have explained it like that, most of us could accept it! But he did not do it! So, it keeps up suspected.
And why ALL images WERE available in the past for ALL countries?
Does a country or organisation critisised Adobe in case of your esamples above, so that Adobe had to start to select images like that now?

Quote from: kall3bu on June 17, 2021, 09:53

Let us hope, you are right! And if Mat would have explained it like that, most of us could accept it! But he did not do it! So, it keeps up suspected.
And why ALL images WERE available in the past for ALL countries?
Does a country or organisation critisised Adobe in case of your esamples above, so that Adobe had to start to select images like that now?

I think the most likely reason for no reply is that he has passed it on to marketing so they can come up with a carefully worded response that avoids words like "censorship" or "kowtowing to oppressive regimes". They need to spin it as actually being sensitive to people's feelings (I mean people who can let them access the market, not people like LGBTQ communities in those countries), which is a tricky balance under the circumstances. You know, the usual.

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I think the most likely reason for no reply is that he has passed it on to marketing so they can come up with a carefully worded response that avoids words like "censorship" or "kowtowing to oppressive regimes". They need to spin it as actually being sensitive to people's feelings (I mean people who can let them access the market, not people like LGBTQ communities in those countries), which is a tricky balance under the circumstances. You know, the usual.

Again: Hopefully you are right with your guesses! But I still suspect there are other reasons behind or just more than you guessed, which might - in which way ever - has a economical or idiological reason for them, which we still do not understand.

Quote from: kall3bu on June 17, 2021, 12:00
... But I still suspect there are other reasons behind or just more than you guessed, which might - in which way ever - has a economical or idiological reason for them, which we still do not understand.

deja vu --- conspiracy is always the most likely reason!!!!!!