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How has Pond5 been in 2021?

Started by K2, May 17, 2021, 03:40

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marthamarks

Quote from: Andri on June 19, 2021, 19:25
As for me Pond5 Exclusive is top earner, even with much smaller portfolio, than on SS and AS

I agree with that.

I'm no longer on SS, but a few exclusive video sales on P5 add up to more than what I get for my stills on AS and DT.

marthamarks

Quote from: everest on June 19, 2021, 21:16
be at P5 regular collection and also being undercutted for pennies at SS or be exclusive at P5 get 60% and raise your prices accordingly if you think the clip is unique because you dont have anyone that can give it away. If you shoot creative basically there are only 4 players in town and sorry to say but Istock/getty and SS are garbage because of their ultralow prices .

There's another statement I fully agree with.

Pacesetter

Pond5 is dead, 460 clips and not one sale in the last two months.

Visualab

Quote from: Pacesetter on July 10, 2021, 02:44
Pond5 is dead, 460 clips and not one sale in the last two months.

i wouldn't expect any regular sale with only 460 clips...

Mantis

#29
I am at 50% of where I usually am.  In fact, every site is way down mid year compared to same period last year.  With the world economy opening back up I am surprised that I'm not at least even with last year.

Pacesetter

Quote from: Visualab on July 10, 2021, 12:58
Quote from: Pacesetter on July 10, 2021, 02:44
Pond5 is dead, 460 clips and not one sale in the last two months.

i wouldn't expect any regular sale with only 460 clips...

Have made regular sales on Shutterstock with 50 fewer clips in the port - totaling over $130 during this period where nothing has sold on Pond5 - and that's with a slow month for video sales in June.

Visualab

Quote from: Pacesetter on July 10, 2021, 15:06
Quote from: Visualab on July 10, 2021, 12:58
Quote from: Pacesetter on July 10, 2021, 02:44
Pond5 is dead, 460 clips and not one sale in the last two months.

i wouldn't expect any regular sale with only 460 clips...

Have made regular sales on Shutterstock with 50 fewer clips in the port - totaling over $130 during this period where nothing has sold on Pond5 - and that's with a slow month for video sales in June.

you can't compare number of sales of shutterstocl vs pond5....from my experience i sell 1 clip at pond5 every 5 clips at shutterstock.....it goes this way since 11 years ago..nothing changed so far for me...

dragonblade

#32
I started with a non exclusive account at P5 some time back. Despite having an extremely small port, I was surprised at the number of sales I was getting. I was quite happy. It looked like P5 had really good potential. But around the time when I opened up a separate exclusive account, everything changed. My sales dropped almost completely. From that point on, sales on my non exclusive account were extremely rare. And after waiting many months, I finally got my first sale on my exclusive account.

If I transfer all the videos from my exclusive account back to my non exclusive account, I wonder if my sales will return to where they used to be. I am actually considering doing that.

Orchidpoet

My exclusive account has had very few sales. My non-ex account is not doing well either.

As we know, JJNeff who proposed the exclusive option to P5, is quitting doing video full-time. I feel that the exclusive option is just not a P5 thing.   

odesigns

Being 100% exclusive anywhere is a bad idea.

For Real

two decent sales this month but that is all so far for 2021...

marthamarks

#36
I've had five video sales on P5 since spring. One a month, actually, so it began to feel like a "thing" that might continue. Time will tell about that.

I'd like to see more quantity, but even just five exclusive sales did add up to a decent return. Better  for my videos than I ever had on SS or AS before I took them exclusive with P5.


jamesbenet

My non exclusive sales have been better than 2019 and 20 but out of all the new uploads which are exclusive only a couple of sales in a year. I still think exclusivity is good in the long term but it will be costly while it picks up.

i8a4re

I sell exclusive on P5 and after building it up for the last 2 years its starting to bring me in dollars.
Its good, but don't put all your eggs in one basket. Spread your bets.
Have a non-exclusive selection that goes across the non-exclusive portals (p5 / adobe / SS etc) then have another selection for exclusive. I typically have some of my better shots in p5 exclusive.

Essentially have two accounts at Pond5 registered under the same email: exclusive and non exclusive. You might have to message pond5 support to register it under the same email.

good luck!

Contemporary Dave

I've been on P5 for about a year now (non-exclusive), and I have a small portfolio of around 300 clips. Initially, I got a sale about once every 2 weeks, but in the last 5 months or so, sales have taken a big nosedive. I haven't had a sale since July.  I've sold more clips on Adobe - where I have only around 40 clips!

Somewhat reassuring that it's just not me who's experienced a downturn in sales on P5.

Asthebelltolls

     This topic is, for the most part, useless unless you include the following information in your response: Format submitted. HD? 4K? 5K? Are you a professional videographer by trade or a "wanna-be" submitter? What kind of clips do you submit? Nature? Sports? People? All of the above?
     Personally, I don't upgrade format because agencies provide little or no incentive
so it's still HD. I'm a professional videographer by trade but feel stock submitting a total waste of time. Agencies provide little or no incentive.
     Oh, and by the way, most stock clips submitted are, IMO, a pile of pooh.

Graiki

I'm not exclusive, I earn 40% commission.
For me 2021 has been better than 2020 at 15%, but very unstable, between months almost 0 and months with good sales...
Far from the golden age that was 2017/18 for me.

This year, there were 53 sales so far, being; 6 in 4K and 3 in 360 (Go Pro fusion) and everything else in HD.

No photo sales this year there.

I always upload to Pond5 when I have the time and I can. 10 sales of new clips I uploaded in 2021.
Some clips with sales Bussines license, Custom license and Premium License. Motivates me to keep uploading.

I always have best-seller sales, since 2015 when I started. Not as well as before, but they sell...

Most sales are individual license.
I had a GPP increase in sales, and it doesn't bother me, it's a good commission.
It's always been a good video site, accepting the vast majority of clips, easy to work with.

I love Pond5. It's not my number 1 video site in sales and earnings.
But it is the site that sells the most in 4K.
When I think about uploading in 4K I have more hope for Pond5.

I hope it will sell well after this pandemic.
I do extreme sports and a little lifestyle, so now post covid should improve for me and I believe for most...

I'm not a microstock professional, I can't say if it's worth "investing" time and money in new images and being 100% in this business, but for me these commissions pay some bills and beers with my wife...
Sorry for using google translate hauhauhauha
Good sales to all...

Zero Talent

in 2021, P5 made 16% of my video earnings, based on 9% of my video downloads.

jjneff

My exclusive earnings have been solid. I am continuing to upload exclusive there when I do!

Uncle Pete

Quote from: Asthebelltolls on October 04, 2021, 18:50
     This topic is, for the most part, useless unless you include the following information in your response: Format submitted. HD? 4K? 5K? Are you a professional videographer by trade or a "wanna-be" submitter? What kind of clips do you submit? Nature? Sports? People? All of the above?
     Personally, I don't upgrade format because agencies provide little or no incentive
so it's still HD. I'm a professional videographer by trade but feel stock submitting a total waste of time. Agencies provide little or no incentive.
     Oh, and by the way, most stock clips submitted are, IMO, a pile of pooh.

Interesting as I keep wondering if I want to send 4k instead of HD. I might be wrong, but I like your answer and opinion.

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biibii

mainly it`s good for videos, but still not for photos or?

lostintimeline

i had a good sale few days ago,on pond5  and my port there is under 100 videos.so that gave me hope and much better money than the joke 20 cents from other agencies

sara_t

I doubled my portfolio on Pond5 this year and till now, earned only a little bit more than for whole 2020.
To compare, with the same size of portfolio on SS, and the same level of portfolio increase (100%) on SS I doubled my earnings also...
But I don't blame Pond5, as they offer fair commission.

cascoly

Quote from: dragonblade on September 05, 2021, 05:23
I started with a non exclusive account at P5 some time back. Despite having an extremely small port, I was surprised at the number of sales I was getting. I was quite happy. It looked like P5 had really good potential. But around the time when I opened up a separate exclusive account, everything changed. My sales dropped almost completely. From that point on, sales on my non exclusive account were extremely rare. And after waiting many months, I finally got my first sale on my exclusive account.

If I transfer all the videos from my exclusive account back to my non exclusive account, I wonder if my sales will return to where they used to be. I am actually considering doing that.

what time periods here?  could be the total # of clips increased dramatically - what are your portfolio sizes? sales/mo, etc?
Steve Estvanik 
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marthamarks

#49
Quote from: marthamarks on September 05, 2021, 21:52
I've had five video sales on P5 since spring. One a month, actually, so it began to feel like a "thing" that might continue. Time will tell about that.

I'd like to see more quantity, but even just five exclusive sales did add up to a decent return. Better  for my videos than I ever had on SS or AS before I took them exclusive with P5.


I'm chiming in here again, since this thread is still "live," to add that my 6th video sale since May came in yesterday: a $47 royalty. To be honest, I'm quite happy getting one of those per month.