Quote from: Bettyboop on August 04, 2008, 09:04
Has any1 els noticed that the big ports are missing from all the shouting happening over on StockXpert and here. Andres, Yuri, iofoto, dolgachov, lumaxart, are very quiet for some strange reason 

You forgot Leaf.

well thanks for considering me one of the 'big ports'   Unfortunatly I only have the 74th largest portfolio on stockxpert.  I haden't looked at that list in a while actually interesting to see (especially after dreamstime took down their list)
http://www.stockxpert.com/browse.phtml?f=users

Anyhow, I thought i would wait and see what the actual deal is before I get my shirt in a knot... but yes, I do have my concerns and i sure hope it is fair.

Quote from: Bettyboop on August 04, 2008, 09:04
Has any1 els noticed that the big ports are missing from all the shouting happening over on StockXpert and here. Andres, Yuri, iofoto, dolgachov, lumaxart, are very quiet for some strange reason 

Maybe they have addressed their concerns directly to the management, not in forum discussions - although I wished they would do that in public.

Regards,
Adelaide

Maybe they're not concerned, they're not under any obligation to post regarding this or any other topic.

Quote from: madelaide on August 04, 2008, 11:50

Quote from: Bettyboop on August 04, 2008, 09:04
Has any1 els noticed that the big ports are missing from all the shouting happening over on StockXpert and here. Andres, Yuri, iofoto, dolgachov, lumaxart, are very quiet for some strange reason 

Maybe they have addressed their concerns directly to the management, not in forum discussions - although I wished they would do that in public.

Regards,
Adelaide

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Lev told me on his forum that he has been talking to Steve about this, and that he wants the EULA changed.  Also PaulCowan said something about StockXpert being shook up because Iofoto was considering pulling his portfolio.  Obviously this is all conjecture.  No way to know if he was truly considering such a move.

I gather if you have that large a portfolio, and a huge amount of sales, you probably have the ear of microstock admins.  Just because someone is not in this thread working themselves up does not mean that they are not very much involved.  Let's not assume too much.

Also, anybody who saw MaxFX's post on StockXpert knows the gravity of the situation.  MaxFX has a huge, outstanding portfolio.  He is on record in the StockXpert thread saying he will definitely pull his portfolio if the EULA is not changed.  So there are some major contributors speaking loudly at the moment.  Read the StockXpert thread, and you will see.

on the bright side no other agency would have allowed a strike against them on their very own forum.I would like this democratic approach will continue   when they are taking serious decisions.it'd be too sad to drop StockXpert if they insist on the change.but having seen such strong opposition to  the deal I hope common sense will win and they will step back from  photos.com deal.fingers crossed!

Quote from: stokfoto on August 04, 2008, 14:03
on the bright side no other agency would have allowed a strike against them on their very own forum.I would like this democratic approach will continue   when they are taking serious decisions.it'd be too sad to drop StockXpert if they insist on the change.but having seen such strong opposition to  the deal I hope common sense will win and they will step back from  photos.com deal.fingers crossed!

Yes, they do deserve credit for the open debate.

It is in sharp contrast to FT .

Humm,

I cannot say the FT communication is very open but,
FT didn't want to sell our ELs licenses for 0.30 $.
Plus you can opt-out for subscription for exclusive photos and they don't replace our copyright by their.
They didn't install their subscription process during summer holidays, when everybody is out.
So, even if all is not perfect, we are very far from the behavior of Jupiter Image.

I am really disappointed to see there doesn't appear to be any news about what StockXpert plans to do to remedy this situation.  I guess I will wait a few more hours but I am getting pretty close to deleting my portfolio. 

Quote from: leaf on August 04, 2008, 11:04...I thought i would wait and see what the actual deal is before I get my shirt in a knot... but yes, I do have my concerns and i sure hope it is fair.

Same here. I'm taking the "wait and see" approach. Hopefully there will be some news today.

I'd love to see this part of the license changed: " The Image(s) shall remain the sole and exclusive property of JUPITERIMAGES, or its licensors."

guys and gals, we re getting it up the ass here and until the bigger ports start making more noise adn I aint jus talking bout 1 or 2, yall can grease yr butts some more.
All those deleted ports are little people and even if the big guns start burning some bridges it still wont make no diff. So what if they allow open discussion? thats just pouring water on the outrage they knew would come. See if what you say makes a sheeit of a diff. they is still going ahead with whatever they planning.
Sooner the better yall realise that the reason we get treeted like crap is because we sell our stuff for crap. protest all u want, we create these sites when we spread our stuff all over lik confeti and then complain when things get messy.

Zymmetrical opinion here
http://cutcaster.blogspot.com/2008/08/new-membership-campiagn-at-zymmetrical.html

And on Digg.com also some things about
http://digg.com/tech_news/Microstock_photographers_rebellion_on_StockExpert_com

Taken from StockXpert forum

Quote from: Bettyboop on August 04, 2008, 15:53
guys and gals, we re getting it up the ass here and until the bigger ports start making more noise adn I aint jus talking bout 1 or 2, yall can grease yr butts some more.
All those deleted ports are little people and even if the big guns start burning some bridges it still wont make no diff. So what if they allow open discussion? thats just pouring water on the outrage they knew would come. See if what you say makes a sheeit of a diff. they is still going ahead with whatever they planning.
Sooner the better yall realise that the reason we get treeted like crap is because we sell our stuff for crap. protest all u want, we create these sites when we spread our stuff all over lik confeti and then complain when things get messy.

It makes a BIG difference. And now, I'm talking as a buyer, not as a seller. And, after all, StockXpert is a small site, number 4, 5, 6 for many people in earnings, and deleting portfolios doesn't do so much harm. Maybe IS or SS coul get away with that (or maybe not), but for StockXpert it's a dangerous move, because thet can lose a gret percentatge of their best content, both at StockXpert and at phots.com.

Quote from: lisafx on August 04, 2008, 15:42
I am really disappointed to see there doesn't appear to be any news about what StockXpert plans to do to remedy this situation.  I guess I will wait a few more hours but I am getting pretty close to deleting my portfolio. 

I am with you on this one Lisa. They promised a new announcment today but if they don't offer a solution I will be among those who will bail out.

Well we've heard the grinding from below decks as we passed the iceberg. I've got my life jacket strapped on tight. Just waiting for "Abandon ship!",  or "this was just a drill".

my lifeboat is all ready.

Saw this over there:
"We have received a great deal of feedback on the changes we announced a week ago. Thank you to all of those who have posted here and participated in the town hall call we held on Thursday. The StockXpert team is working on a message that will be sent to all contributors later today. Please bear with us."

I bet the message is "suck it up!".

ahh. you just beat me to it..  sjlocke!

.. here is the link though
http://www.stockxpert.com/forum.phtml?f=showtopic&n=15291&p=23

I wouldn't write this memo off just yet. My bet is that there will be substantial changes coming -- most of the important issues will be settled. Too much at stake for them. Just my opinion...but I also though SnapVillage would be a powerhouse.

Interesting read about Jupiter's performance on NASDAQ...

http://blog.melchersystem.com/2008/07/29/jupiter-is-not-responding/

UPDATE:  Just found this press release...Jupiter is holding a conference call on Thursday to review its second quarter results.  Includes phone number and pass code.

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1781339/

Quote from: louoates on August 04, 2008, 18:26
I wouldn't write this memo off just yet. My bet is that there will be substantial changes coming -- most of the important issues will be settled. Too much at stake for them. Just my opinion...but I also though SnapVillage would be a powerhouse.

OT SV reply: Powerhouse of promises and potential, after that nothing happening, I'm with you. It's been a year.

Before I jump off the StockXpert ship, I'd like to see if it's really sinking, or just rocking in the storm. When they give the final program details we'll all be able to see what it really is. For now it's just a lot of waves and announcement wind blowing. 

I don't fully understand the only small image program. "up to 250 photos per day" doesn't impress me as a seller, and the condition that buyers can't stockpile images is an empty restriction. Who's going to police the buyer who downloads 7500 photos for a $99 subscription and uses them for the next three years?

I don't see how they can regulate or monitor such high volume buying and the potential for abuse.

Till the storm blows over and StockXpert and photos.com get their EULA fixed and we get the final details, I'm just watching and waiting. I can't understand people who are making a decision based on an announcement of future changes, rumors and conjecture.

If they had to announce something good to us, they would have done it already.
I think now they are working hard on phrasing it nicely. A stone wrapped in a colored foil does not pass as a candy for me.

no annocuments yet?

 
Aarrghh! Can you believe it?? Yes.. I can.

Quote from: stokfoto on August 04, 2008, 20:03
no annocuments yet?

I'm a little late to the party here, and there's something I don't understand:
On photo.com's homepage, it's possible to buy a one year subscription for 450 (fourhundredandfifty) dollars. That's less than 20% of the price at SS. Unless they plan to pay us just a couple of cents per dl, there's no way they are going to make a profit on a price like that. In fact, the more customers they attract with that price, the faster they will go bankrupt.

If this represents the new policy at StockXpert/JI, there's only one thing to do: cancel our portfolios as fast as our keyboards will allow us.