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"Exciting" news from 123rf

Started by offisapup, June 14, 2022, 16:04

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sgoodwin4813

I ignored the first e-mail but received a second one today - looks like it is scheduled to go live on Aug. 18th and we are automatically scheduled to be in unless we go and say no.  It seems they're trying something like Adobe's free section except without the upfront payment - which is the only reason I can think of for doing it for a contributor.  Supposedly only images that haven't had a download in two years are included, and their goal is to get people to go from free to a paid subscription to their PLUS section.  Looks like the payment scheme will be based on your proportion of the PLUS downloads - this is what they say "Your earnings = 50% of Nett Revenue ➗ TOTAL PLUS downloads ✖ Number of PLUS downloads of YOUR content".  But that will only be for anyone who converts from free to a paid subscription.  As if that ever works.  Of course they didn't say how much someone will pay for PLUS either.  I always love signing up for these vague schemes for exposure and promises of untold wealth in the future.  Yay, sign me up!


(fortunately it is easy to opt out but you have to do it before Aug. 18th)

kuriouskat

Their selection criteria appears to be off. I just got the option to opt out when I logged in today, and have read the notes on what will be included. This is the information given on new uploads:

For newly updated content, you will be able to choose a catch-all setting to include these uploads into PLUS. However, we're prioritizing content that has been unsold into PLUS. Hence, we may relax or change the criteria and allow newer content into PLUS in the near future.

It implies that only older, unsold content will be included unless I select otherwise, but on checking the content that was approved within the last 24 hours, it's all opted in.

So I've checked closely on my 'manage content' page and 456 pages of commercial images are included in Plus and Premium, and only 2 pages are labelled as Premium only.

So I'm opted in by default, haven't had any emails, and I'm only aware of this because I logged in to check approval status.

No thanks, 123RF - you can pay me like Adobe does, or count me out. That, or guarantee a minimum earning per download, as 50% of an unstated amount is much too vague for my liking.

Justanotherphotographer

I don't receive any notification but had the opt out when I went to the "manage content" section.
Recommend everyone logs in and navigates there as you may not be told and there is a short window for opting out.

rushay

Just went in and opted out.

biibii

need to opt out or all future uploads are in the free collection. is automatically opt in. sneaky  >:(

pancaketom

I never got a notification, but I signed in to see how pathetic my earnings were and to opt out. 123RF was once a good earner. After a few rounds of exciting news over the years they are in the lowest tier and off the upload list.

Everyone who doesn't want to give away their work should log in and opt out.
We get it ... -snip- ... we are lazy, incompetent, greedy or uncaring. Rebecca Rockafellar for Istock HQ

emjaysmith

I also never received a notification. I have just opted out  but it took about 6 attempts to do it.

Rage

Thanks everyone, figured out the opt out. Also removed plus from account settings and preferences for good measure.

How long till they charge us to sell pics, [emoji1787][emoji1787]

Wilm

I wonder why I did not get this e-mail from 123rf. I also can't find any information about this topic anywhere on the website.

Where can I find the location for opt out?

RalfLiebhold

Quote from: Wilm on August 03, 2022, 08:56
I wonder why I did not get this e-mail from 123rf. I also can't find any information about this topic anywhere on the website.

Where can I find the location for opt out?

Wilm, go to "Konto-Einstellungen" and then "Preference Settings"

Wilm

Quote from: RalfLiebhold on August 03, 2022, 09:07
Quote from: Wilm on August 03, 2022, 08:56
I wonder why I did not get this e-mail from 123rf. I also can't find any information about this topic anywhere on the website.

Where can I find the location for opt out?

Wilm, go to "Konto-Einstellungen" and then "Preference Settings"

Thanks a lot, Ralf!  :)

Schadenfreude

I just uploaded and I don't think that it gave me the choice of commercial vs. editorial.

Good lord, who asks for these changes??????

photodave

Has anybody been able to close their contributor account recently?

I've sent them two emails requesting closure and so far I've had no response.

Many thanks

Photodave

VSargues

I received the email. I configured my account so that my images were paid for. Today I have uploaded images and they have asked me for confirmation of how I want the new ones to be sold. I think it is possible that they will ask the same question again next time. Maybe until I make a mistake in the option and my entire portfolio becomes free? It will be a matter of being cautious day by day until the 18th

Cleop6atra

I've emailed them and got the response how to do it. However, if you haven't reached your minimum payout then they will not pay you. But I think I will go ahead and close it anyway, I have only 25$ left so it will take me years to reach minimum payout. And I don't feel that my portfolio is safe there.

photodave

Quote from: Cleop6atra on August 04, 2022, 15:03
I've emailed them and got the response how to do it. However, if you haven't reached your minimum payout then they will not pay you. But I think I will go ahead and close it anyway, I have only 25$ left so it will take me years to reach minimum payout. And I don't feel that my portfolio is safe there.

I'm half way to pay out so I was hoping that they would of paid that out. Being blanked by whoever is at the end of their contributor email doesn't give me much confidence in them.

Cleop6atra

Unfortunately this is what they said:
"Please also note that your balance earnings will be forfeited based on our agreement policy which you have accepted during the account registration."
I think I'm gonna close account anyway, I don't wanna risk my portfolio being for free, especially in such a small and unsuccessful agency. Plus my whole batch was rejected recently, because I couldn't select "editorial". And on top of that signing every single time that "I agree to fully defend and indemnify 123RF..." is quite worrying.

photodave

Quote from: Cleop6atra on August 04, 2022, 18:39
Unfortunately this is what they said:
"Please also note that your balance earnings will be forfeited based on our agreement policy which you have accepted during the account registration."
I think I'm gonna close account anyway, I don't wanna risk my portfolio being for free, especially in such a small and unsuccessful agency. Plus my whole batch was rejected recently, because I couldn't select "editorial". And on top of that signing every single time that "I agree to fully defend and indemnify 123RF..." is quite worrying.

Thanks for the information, I appreciate it.

Luckily I don't have many images uploaded to them and I'll now stop uploading any further photos.

Many thanks

Photodave

trek

I noticed I was auto-opted in to plus when I opened manage content - accepted.  The opt out in account settings / preferences settings is for "future uploads" only.  So I had to opt out twice to avoid the "plus" plan.  Purposely poor communication is a very sleazy way of doing business.  Pondering permanently removing all my content. 

Pacesetter

I had 45 photos on the site, it was the first agency I gave up on after waiting weeks for them to be reviewed. Just gone in there and deleted them all. Not gonna give any opportunity for these places to benefit from free giveaways, not in this way at least.

kuriouskat

I opted out everything as soon as I saw the original message, but still had about 280 images that were included regardless. I've edited again to remove the PLUS option, but I shouldn't have to do this.

I also have lost the editorial option for submissions.

Thomas from France

This helped me to take the decision to leave 123rf.

Next payout, i'm gone !

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