Of course the money is all that matters.

Have you ever seen a photographer that felt guilty for putting portrait painters out of business?

New tech comes along and it is up to you to choose to whine and play victim or harvest the new possibilities and reinvent yourself.

I love ai and look forward to making more money.

Quote from: cobalt on March 22, 2023, 11:04
Of course the money is all that matters.

Have you ever seen a photographer that felt guilty for putting portrait painters out of business?

New tech comes along and it is up to you to choose to whine and play victim or harvest the new possibilities and reinvent yourself.

I love ai and look forward to making more money.

There are microstockers who were able to produce quality images and did not had to wait for AI to achieve that.

They were happy about the money they made from their OWN work. And they knew they had to improve and work by themselves. And they did. And they evolved.
AI = easy money? lol, wait just a few months... These words will only be spoken by the fulfilled big mouths of the big agencies managers and shareholder

Wait for the nexts "hey, we have good news!!!" 

...

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Quote from: DiscreetDuck on March 22, 2023, 12:03

Quote from: cobalt on March 22, 2023, 11:04
Of course the money is all that matters.

Have you ever seen a photographer that felt guilty for putting portrait painters out of business?

New tech comes along and it is up to you to choose to whine and play victim or harvest the new possibilities and reinvent yourself.

I love ai and look forward to making more money.

There are microstockers who were able to produce quality images and did not had to wait for AI to achieve that.

They were happy about the money they made from their OWN work. And they knew they had to improve and work by themselves. And they did. And they evolved.
AI = easy money? lol, wait just a few months... These words will only be spoken by the fulfilled big mouths of the big agencies managers and shareholder

Wait for the nexts "hey, we have good news!!!" 

only the anti-ai luddites have said its easy money - of course there are thousands of artists producing quality work - just like those portrait painters, film photographers, buggy whip makers, mom & pop grocery stores, small book sellers. but most of those who don't adapt cease to evolve & natural selection moves along

Quote from: cascoly on March 22, 2023, 17:46
[...]natural selection moves along

Sorry but nothing "natural" in AI...

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on March 22, 2023, 18:00

Quote from: cascoly on March 22, 2023, 17:46
[...]natural selection moves along

Sorry but nothing "natural" in AI...

Also digital camera had nothing "natural" vs old analogue camera... at the time when digital was born

You all keep making the same arguments while completely confusing  simple technology with AI. these are two completely different things. Technology itself was never a threat to humaity or creativity. AI can replace almost everything that makes humans human, espect for the biological part.

Quote from: Her Ugliness on March 23, 2023, 09:34
You all keep making the same arguments while completely confusing  simple technology with AI. these are two completely different things. Technology itself was never a threat to humaity or creativity. AI can replace almost everything that makes humans human, espect for the biological part.

AWB, auto focus, auto exposure, auto ISO, programming, the only part a human has to do is push the button. No film, no processing, a digital photo can be edited down to pixels. Auto levels, color correction, sharpen or blur, much more including making parts that never existed, shadows and lighting. Digital images can replace almost everything that makes a human taking photo.

Quote from: Stock4Me on March 23, 2023, 10:26

Quote from: Her Ugliness on March 23, 2023, 09:34
You all keep making the same arguments while completely confusing  simple technology with AI. these are two completely different things. Technology itself was never a threat to humaity or creativity. AI can replace almost everything that makes humans human, espect for the biological part.

AWB, auto focus, auto exposure, auto ISO, programming, the only part a human has to do is push the button. No film, no processing, a digital photo can be edited down to pixels. Auto levels, color correction, sharpen or blur, much more including making parts that never existed, shadows and lighting. Digital images can replace almost everything that makes a human taking photo.

Not what I said, not my point at all. Taking a photo is not what makes humans human.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-experts-urge-pause-training-ai-systems-that-can-outperform-gpt-4-2023-03-29/

Maybe AI creators are slowly coming to their senses (or they are forced to think twice): "The letter, issued by the non-profit Future of Life Institute and signed by more than 1,000 people including Musk, called for a pause on advanced AI development until shared safety protocols for such designs were developed, implemented and audited by independent experts."

Quote from: Lina on March 29, 2023, 11:13
https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-experts-urge-pause-training-ai-systems-that-can-outperform-gpt-4-2023-03-29/

Maybe AI creators are slowly coming to their senses (or they are forced to think twice): "The letter, issued by the non-profit Future of Life Institute and signed by more than 1,000 people including Musk, called for a pause on advanced AI development until shared safety protocols for such designs were developed, implemented and audited by independent experts."

Will they "regulate" Chinese AI too? Which will gain leverage during the "pause"?

What AI would you rather submit to? English-speaking or Chinese-speaking?

It all is rather scary indeed

Quote from: Anny1234 on March 29, 2023, 13:02

Quote from: Lina on March 29, 2023, 11:13
https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-experts-urge-pause-training-ai-systems-that-can-outperform-gpt-4-2023-03-29/

Maybe AI creators are slowly coming to their senses (or they are forced to think twice): "The letter, issued by the non-profit Future of Life Institute and signed by more than 1,000 people including Musk, called for a pause on advanced AI development until shared safety protocols for such designs were developed, implemented and audited by independent experts."

Will they "regulate" Chinese AI too? Which will gain leverage during the "pause"?

What AI would you rather submit to? English-speaking or Chinese-speaking?

It all is rather scary indeed

Frankly, I don't care much more for USA than China regarding this issue.

Quote from: Lina on March 29, 2023, 13:35

Frankly, I don't care much more for USA than China regarding this issue.

Me neither but I have no wish to learn Chinese so better if USA AI wins

123rf takes ai content

https://www.blog.123rf.com/123rf-guidelines-for-ai-generated-content?utm_source=20230330_AIGenerated&utm_medium=textlink01&utm_campaign=GREDMContri#contributorannouncement

Apparently the ai content is then offered for FREE to customers...

Quote from: fotoroad on March 30, 2023, 19:39

Quote from: derby on March 30, 2023, 18:30
To be exact the checkbox says:
"I allow users to use my media for free, even for commercial purposes, without further attribution or compensation to me"

For media submitted for Free License distribution:

    I allow users to use my media for free, including for commercial purposes, without further attribution or fee to me.

from the 123rf thread

midjourney temporarily halts free image trial

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1677533/midjourney-halts-free-trials-after-ai-photos-go-viral.html

Quote from: cobalt on March 31, 2023, 12:20
midjourney temporarily halts free image trial

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1677533/midjourney-halts-free-trials-after-ai-photos-go-viral.html

Do not understand what the "AI-generated fake images that went viral" have to do with the free trial. It's not like the paid subscription will keep you from generating "fake images" - After all that's the whole point of midjourney.

Quote from: Her Ugliness on March 31, 2023, 12:31

Quote from: cobalt on March 31, 2023, 12:20
midjourney temporarily halts free image trial

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1677533/midjourney-halts-free-trials-after-ai-photos-go-viral.html

Do not understand what the "AI-generated fake images that went viral" have to do with the free trial. It's not like the paid subscription will keep you from generating "fake images" - After all that's the whole point of midjourney.

"There's an expert .. who says that if there is not an indefinite pause on AI development ... 'Literally everyone on Earth will die,'"

Quote from: Year of the Dog on March 31, 2023, 15:29

Quote from: Her Ugliness on March 31, 2023, 12:31

Quote from: cobalt on March 31, 2023, 12:20
midjourney temporarily halts free image trial

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1677533/midjourney-halts-free-trials-after-ai-photos-go-viral.html

Do not understand what the "AI-generated fake images that went viral" have to do with the free trial. It's not like the paid subscription will keep you from generating "fake images" - After all that's the whole point of midjourney.

"There's an expert .. who says that if there is not an indefinite pause on AI development ... 'Literally everyone on Earth will die,'"

sure....
and expert economists have predicted nine of the last 7 recessions

and a few 'expert' biologists refuse to accept evolution

and rightwing experts refuse to accept climate change

[an example of expert blunders/ignorance, not meant to start any debates on those topics]

Quote from: Year of the Dog on March 31, 2023, 15:29

Quote from: Her Ugliness on March 31, 2023, 12:31

Quote from: cobalt on March 31, 2023, 12:20
midjourney temporarily halts free image trial

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1677533/midjourney-halts-free-trials-after-ai-photos-go-viral.html

Do not understand what the "AI-generated fake images that went viral" have to do with the free trial. It's not like the paid subscription will keep you from generating "fake images" - After all that's the whole point of midjourney.

"There's an expert .. who says that if there is not an indefinite pause on AI development ... 'Literally everyone on Earth will die,'"

Uhm, okay? I still do not understand what that has  to do with Midjourney stopping their free trial? 

"There's an expert .. who says that if there is not an indefinite pause on AI development ... 'Literally everyone on Earth will die,'"
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Someone in Trump campaign said the same about Trump not being re-elected

nvidia and getty partner up for properly licensed ai creation

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2023/03/21/generative-ai-getty-images/?ncid=so-face-193517&=&linkId=100000195758885&fbclid=IwAR0Ks1rGyjcfSGFPCMdunJGnmNhDrkzGaP71MJUmZvK6PYvxGfPmbNvHSCU#cid=gtcs23_so-face_en-us

Quote from: cascoly on March 31, 2023, 19:35

Quote from: Year of the Dog on March 31, 2023, 15:29

Quote from: Her Ugliness on March 31, 2023, 12:31

Quote from: cobalt on March 31, 2023, 12:20
midjourney temporarily halts free image trial

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1677533/midjourney-halts-free-trials-after-ai-photos-go-viral.html

Do not understand what the "AI-generated fake images that went viral" have to do with the free trial. It's not like the paid subscription will keep you from generating "fake images" - After all that's the whole point of midjourney.

"There's an expert .. who says that if there is not an indefinite pause on AI development ... 'Literally everyone on Earth will die,'"

sure....
and expert economists have predicted nine of the last 7 recessions

and a few 'expert' biologists refuse to accept evolution

and rightwing experts refuse to accept climate change

[an example of expert blunders/ignorance, not meant to start any debates on those topics]

Liberals invented Climate Change! Global warming wasn't selling fear as well as predicted, but the planet is positively warming. Even the deniers can't deny that.

But nothing to really worry about, doom or expert predictions: Steven Hawking says - artificial intelligence is likely to outsmart us, that the wealthy are bound to develop into a superhuman species, and that the planet is hurtling toward total inhabitability.

"There's an expert .. who says that if there is not an indefinite pause on AI development ... 'Literally everyone on Earth will die,'"

Yes at least some of us can get a joke when it's posted. I'll add that everyone on Earth will die. Eventually? But there will be replacements, (aka descendants) who will also eventually get old and die. 

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 03, 2023, 22:14

Liberals invented Climate Change, talk about deniers of the facts. If a dire prediction doesn't go the way they want, they just change the model. That happens year after year, because the predictions haven't met the levels of doom that are claimed

This may help you. But probably not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zul0BuO8A

Could we perhaps move the climate change discussion/politics into a different thread?

I would like to continue using this thread for collecting useful links and articles about generative ai.

THANK YOU.