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Started by ribtoks, April 05, 2023, 10:02

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ribtoks

Hey folks

A bit overdue, but finally I got to write a long blogpost about everything you can do today with generative AI in the context, useful for microstock contributors.

One spoiler quote:

QuoteWhen was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?

(yes, you might not get replaced during the next couple of years)

Let me know what do you think about this: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/generative-ai-microstock/

Cheers
Xpiks founder

gameover

Quote from: ribtoks on April 05, 2023, 10:02
Hey folks

A bit overdue, but finally I got to write a long blogpost about everything you can do today with generative AI in the context, useful for microstock contributors.

One spoiler quote:

QuoteWhen was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?

(yes, you might not get replaced during the next couple of years)


Let me know what do you think about this: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/generative-ai-microstock/

Cheers

Thank you very much for your quite interesting post!
The first impression is of an exhaustive and very well balanced article - now give me time to read it and appreciate it thoroughly :)

But I'm afraid that to some people here it will be like preaching to the windmills: they are set on mourning and mourning they will till their last breath :(

Her Ugliness

Quote from: ribtoks on April 05, 2023, 10:02


QuoteWhen was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?


When was the last time that tool required no skillset, so it could boost the productivity of everyone who had no photography or artistic skills by 100%, so you lose your advantage of having any special skills and become useless?

ribtoks

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 05, 2023, 12:36
When was the last time that tool required no skillset, so it could boost the productivity of everyone who had no photography or artistic skills by 100%, so you lose your advantage of having any special skills and become useless?

If depends what was your advantage (also you obviously did not read the article). If you were producing random illustrations before, most probably you lost your "advantage". However, if you were producing content that buyers actually need and you were covering a more or less unique niche (or niches), your advantage can be only amplified if you will use generative AI as a helper tool.
Xpiks founder

Justanotherphotographer

Quote from: ribtoks on April 05, 2023, 13:01

If depends what was your advantage (also you obviously did not read the article). If you were producing random illustrations before, most probably you lost your "advantage". However, if you were producing content that buyers actually need and you were covering a more or less unique niche (or niches), your advantage can be only amplified if you will use generative AI as a helper tool.
Anyone can now see what is selling and reproduce that with minimum effort using AI. No one is "safe".

ribtoks

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on April 05, 2023, 14:54
Anyone can now see what is selling and reproduce that with minimum effort using AI. No one is "safe".

How do you know what is selling right now? By "selling" I mean not "on sale", but "sells better than others".
Xpiks founder

ribtoks

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on April 05, 2023, 14:54
and reproduce that with minimum effort using AI

It's my personal opinion, but I do not believe in this "with minimal effort using AI". Did you really use generative AI to say this? I used DALL-E 2 and Midjourney v5 and they are still far from reproducing "anything with minimal effort". They will improve with a steady pace in this new era, but their impact will be somewhat limited - they might replace some portion of illustrations and some photography editing, but not more for some time.
Xpiks founder

Justanotherphotographer

Quote from: ribtoks on April 05, 2023, 15:13
Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on April 05, 2023, 14:54
and reproduce that with minimum effort using AI

It's my personal opinion, but I do not believe in this "with minimal effort using AI". Did you really use generative AI to say this? I used DALL-E 2 and Midjourney v5 and they are still far from reproducing "anything with minimal effort". They will improve with a steady pace in this new era, but their impact will be somewhat limited - they might replace some portion of illustrations and some photography editing, but not more for some time.

Yes tried both just to see how they work. Dall E 2 is pretty useless. Midjourney is almost there and getting better very quickly, especially for replacing illustration. Maybe it will take slightly longer for commission work, but for stock where multiple versions can be uploaded and fit the bill it is really very minimal effort IMHO. Especially when you compare it to the many days it would take to make a comparable illustration using other methods.

DiscreetDuck

Quote from: Her Ugliness on April 05, 2023, 12:36
Quote from: ribtoks on April 05, 2023, 10:02


QuoteWhen was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?


When was the last time that tool required no skillset, so it could boost the productivity of everyone who had no photography or artistic skills by 100%, so you lose your advantage of having any special skills and become useless?
♥ ☺ +1

Justanotherphotographer

Quote from: ribtoks on April 05, 2023, 15:06
Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on April 05, 2023, 14:54
Anyone can now see what is selling and reproduce that with minimum effort using AI. No one is "safe".

How do you know what is selling right now? By "selling" I mean not "on sale", but "sells better than others".

Sorry missed this one. Mostly using onsite tools like Abobe's trending, sorting searches by popular/ sales etc. Not stuff I've ever done myself but with AI it's a death sentences for any portfolio that features.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: gameover on April 05, 2023, 12:11
Quote from: ribtoks on April 05, 2023, 10:02
Hey folks

A bit overdue, but finally I got to write a long blogpost about everything you can do today with generative AI in the context, useful for microstock contributors.

One spoiler quote:

QuoteWhen was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?

(yes, you might not get replaced during the next couple of years)


Let me know what do you think about this: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/generative-ai-microstock/

Cheers

Thank you very much for your quite interesting post!
The first impression is of an exhaustive and very well balanced article - now give me time to read it and appreciate it thoroughly :)

But I'm afraid that to some people here it will be like preaching to the windmills: they are set on mourning and mourning they will till their last breath :(

Yes you predicted the replies below yours, before they were posted.  S O S and the first two words are Same Old 💩



Hey Yes to that conclusion: "In the end, you will not be replaced by AI, but you will be replaced by people who use AI."

Dall-E2 says: "The server is currently overloaded with other requests. Sorry about that! You can retry your request, or contact us through our help center at help.openai.com if the error persists."

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Your art isn't worth anything unless someone else believes it is.

gameover

#11
Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 05, 2023, 18:56
Quote from: gameover on April 05, 2023, 12:11
Quote from: ribtoks on April 05, 2023, 10:02
Hey folks

A bit overdue, but finally I got to write a long blogpost about everything you can do today with generative AI in the context, useful for microstock contributors.

One spoiler quote:

QuoteWhen was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?

(yes, you might not get replaced during the next couple of years)


Let me know what do you think about this: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/generative-ai-microstock/

Cheers

Thank you very much for your quite interesting post!
The first impression is of an exhaustive and very well balanced article - now give me time to read it and appreciate it thoroughly :)

But I'm afraid that to some people here it will be like preaching to the windmills: they are set on mourning and mourning they will till their last breath :(

Yes you predicted the replies below yours, before they were posted.  S O S and the first two words are Same Old 💩



Hey Yes to that conclusion: "In the end, you will not be replaced by AI, but you will be replaced by people who use AI."

Dall-E2 says: "The server is currently overloaded with other requests. Sorry about that! You can retry your request, or contact us through our help center at help.openai.com if the error persists."

S.O.S.  ... --- ... :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You made my day 🫀

As a matter of fact my crystal ball is pretty old and foggy and runs on good old Win7, but to predict some people it is more than enough...



(the fingers are okay!  good old Midjourney)



Uncle Pete

Quote from: gameover on April 05, 2023, 21:05

S.O.S.  ... --- ... :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You made my day 🫀

As a matter of fact my crystal ball is pretty old and foggy and runs on good old Win7, but to predict some people it is more than enough...



(the fingers are okay!  good old Midjourney)

Wait? Only five fingers and two arms? They are shorting your orders.  :)
≧◉◡◉≦ <a href=https://www.antique-images.com/> My Vintage and Antique images ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Your art isn't worth anything unless someone else believes it is.

gameover

Quote from: ribtoks on April 05, 2023, 10:02
Hey folks

A bit overdue, but finally I got to write a long blogpost about everything you can do today with generative AI in the context, useful for microstock contributors.

One spoiler quote:

QuoteWhen was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?

(yes, you might not get replaced during the next couple of years)

Let me know what do you think about this: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/generative-ai-microstock/

Cheers
As promised, I've read your article thoroughly and attentively. It's a great article, informative and unbiased, and I totally agree with your conclusion "you will not be replaced by AI, but you will be replaced by people who use AI".

The sad gist of it is, only those able to stimulate an AI with some creativity will have a possibility. The others will have no other option than joining the naysayers or looking for another way out (another niche perhaps?).

The problem is anything but new: since the dawn of time every new technology has left some people jobless by doing their job faster, better and cheaper. And every time the Luddites succumbed while the ones who were quick enough to jump on the new horse prospered.

ribtoks

Quote from: gameover on April 06, 2023, 12:42
As promised, I've read your article thoroughly and attentively. It's a great article, informative and unbiased, and I totally agree with your conclusion "you will not be replaced by AI, but you will be replaced by people who use AI".

The sad gist of it is, only those able to stimulate an AI with some creativity will have a possibility. The others will have no other option than joining the naysayers or looking for another way out (another niche perhaps?).

The problem is anything but new: since the dawn of time every new technology has left some people jobless by doing their job faster, better and cheaper. And every time the Luddites succumbed while the ones who were quick enough to jump on the new horse prospered.

Thank you for your feedback and for your thoughts! Really glad you liked the article.
Xpiks founder

cascoly

Quote from: gameover on April 06, 2023, 12:42... And every time the Luddites succumbed while the ones who were quick enough to jump on the new horse prospered.

until we replaced horses
Steve Estvanik 
travel & photo blog https://cascoly-images.com

Shuttershock

Until there is AI software which produces images large enough to upload to a stock agency there not much point to them

sharpshot

Quote from: Richard Johnson on April 06, 2023, 21:29
Until there is AI software which produces images large enough to upload to a stock agency there not much point to them

People are already submitting AI images to stock sites. Dall-E 2 has unlimited resolution.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: sharpshot on April 06, 2023, 22:38
Quote from: Richard Johnson on April 06, 2023, 21:29
Until there is AI software which produces images large enough to upload to a stock agency there not much point to them

People are already submitting AI images to stock sites. Dall-E 2 has unlimited resolution.

While I have stuck with the free outputs, maybe you can explain the unlimited? From what I found, it can cost more, take longer and I'd need to have a paid account. Did I miss something? Or do you mean Outpainting? I haven't tried either.

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Your art isn't worth anything unless someone else believes it is.

ADH

I have been replaced by AI. Actually I am not me anymore, I am AI. I don't exist. Nothing exist. Everything is just an illusion. We are all AI.

sharpshot

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 07, 2023, 18:06
Quote from: sharpshot on April 06, 2023, 22:38
Quote from: Richard Johnson on April 06, 2023, 21:29
Until there is AI software which produces images large enough to upload to a stock agency there not much point to them

People are already submitting AI images to stock sites. Dall-E 2 has unlimited resolution.

While I have stuck with the free outputs, maybe you can explain the unlimited? From what I found, it can cost more, take longer and I'd need to have a paid account. Did I miss something? Or do you mean Outpainting? I haven't tried either.
I read about it. I guess it's just outpainting for now.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: sharpshot on April 08, 2023, 22:16
Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 07, 2023, 18:06
Quote from: sharpshot on April 06, 2023, 22:38
Quote from: Richard Johnson on April 06, 2023, 21:29
Until there is AI software which produces images large enough to upload to a stock agency there not much point to them

People are already submitting AI images to stock sites. Dall-E 2 has unlimited resolution.

While I have stuck with the free outputs, maybe you can explain the unlimited? From what I found, it can cost more, take longer and I'd need to have a paid account. Did I miss something? Or do you mean Outpainting? I haven't tried either.
I read about it. I guess it's just outpainting for now.

Next time I have a full months worth or if the new Bing version allows that, I'll have to give it a try. Good reminder = thanks.
≧◉◡◉≦ <a href=https://www.antique-images.com/> My Vintage and Antique images ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Your art isn't worth anything unless someone else believes it is.