Quote from: cobalt on June 27, 2023, 13:32
LOVE IT!

Please upload that, it will bring great money

thank you! I took your suggestion 👍

At the risk of inciting another troll-stom, here's where the collections are 3 Jul 2023. I've omitted 123rf because I can't figure out how I got it to give me just the AI generated images a week ago. There are images marked as AI generated. There instructions for uploaders about the category it has to go into, but I can only find an "exclude AI" option in a search of the plus collection. Go figure...

Adobe Stock AI collection
11,284,930

Dreamstime AI collection
3,253,125

CanStock collection (search for "generative ai")
792,769

Shutterstock collection
660,215

iStock collection (keyword "AI Generated Image")
167,373

DepositPhotos collection (search for "generative ai")
100,211

3,221 vectors
5,498 photos
2,425 illustrations
207 videos

July 10 collection sizes. Tracking the numbers isn't precise as several agencies don't have any formal rules about how to identify AI generated content (and Adobe does, but doesn't enforce them; I'm only tracking their tagged genAI content)

In CanStock's case, it may be that their collection size is the sum of the two numbers - looking at a few portfolios, some people use one term and some the other. Looking at the search results sorted by most recent, I didn't see any overlap - in other words it didn't appear contributors were adding both terms.

Adobe Stock AI collection
11,733,467

Dreamstime AI collection
3,421,114

CanStock collection (search for "generative ai") [search for "ai generated"]
(817,916) [817,897]

Shutterstock collection
688,473
123RF collection (search for "generative ai") [search for "ai generated"]
(592,351) [783,112]

iStock collection (keyword "AI Generated Image")
167,385

DepositPhotos collection (search for "generative ai") [search for "ai generated"]

4,388 [2,988]
2,711 [2,478] vectors
1,677 [510] photos
2,381 [1,291] illustrations
247 [1,363]videos

Odd ... the quality of the "AI Generated Image" images, at least on istockphoto.com, is really not that good right now.

istock doesn't take ai created content.

But they have content about ai generation from normal production.

I think that is what most of those files are.

July 17 collection sizes (I took iStock out of the list. Their count went down, I think because they removed some of AI content and lots of the rest is about AI not created by anyway.)

Adobe Stock AI collection
12,151,135

Dreamstime AI collection
3,572,918

CanStock collection (search for "generative ai") [search for "ai generated"]
(853,302) [853,284]

Shutterstock collection
734,014

123RF collection (search for "generative ai") [search for "ai generated"]
(626,080) [822,286]

DepositPhotos collection (search for "generative ai") [search for "ai generated"] - "Fresh" versus "best match" gives a *very* different count - this is fresh; last week was best match
99,652 [79,955]

91,006 [77,242] vectors
8,646 [2,713] photos
2,399 [1,292] illustrations
247 [1,365]videos

Does shutterstock "officially" accept AI content now?

Quote from: SuperPhoto on July 18, 2023, 22:00
Does shutterstock "officially" accept AI content now?

Not from contributors - see this page

https://support.submit.shutterstock.com/s/article/Content-Policy-Updates-AI-generated-Content

The points raised here apply to any agency accepting content generated by Midjourney, DALL-E, Stable Diffusion ... (emphasis mine)

"... although we developed an AI tool that generates images, Shutterstock will not allow AI-generated content to be submitted by contributors for licensing on our platform....

...we want to ensure contributors can prove IP ownership of all submitted content. Since AI content generation models leverage the IP of many artists and their content, AI-generated content ownership cannot be assigned to an individual. ... Given the availability of various AI content generation models in the marketplace, we are unable to verify the model source for most AI-generated content and therefore are unable to ensure all artists who were involved in the generation of each piece of content are compensated."

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on July 19, 2023, 00:15

Quote from: SuperPhoto on July 18, 2023, 22:00
Does shutterstock "officially" accept AI content now?

Not from contributors - see this page

https://support.submit.shutterstock.com/s/article/Content-Policy-Updates-AI-generated-Content

The points raised here apply to any agency accepting content generated by Midjourney, DALL-E, Stable Diffusion ... (emphasis mine)

"... although we developed an AI tool that generates images, Shutterstock will not allow AI-generated content to be submitted by contributors for licensing on our platform....

...we want to ensure contributors can prove IP ownership of all submitted content. Since AI content generation models leverage the IP of many artists and their content, AI-generated content ownership cannot be assigned to an individual. ... Given the availability of various AI content generation models in the marketplace, we are unable to verify the model source for most AI-generated content and therefore are unable to ensure all artists who were involved in the generation of each piece of content are compensated."

yes, SS won't accept images made w their app!

All the places that don't take ai content now, will soon realise on how much very interesting and creative content they are missing out on and lose a lot of customers.

Ai is a tool, like a computer, like software, like a camera.

The legal stuff around it will come eventually.

Customers don't have time to waste their day prompting. They come to agencies because they often don't even really know what kind of image they want. They browse ageny collections to get a better idea of the visual concept they need etc...

So having a very good ai collection will become mandatory for agencies. Especially for large agencies that want to be a one stop shop place.

Inspite of so many people denying it, of course there is a creative process involved in creating ai content, just like photography is more than just pressing a button.

,,anyone can do it", is not right.

Everyone can learn it...yes, just like everyone can learn photography.

Quote from: cobalt on July 19, 2023, 05:20

Customers don't have time to waste their day prompting. They come to agencies because they often don't even really know what kind of image they want. They browse ageny collections to get a better idea of the visual concept they need etc...

Yeah, right. Customers don't have 5 seconds of time to write a promt in an AI generator - pretty much the same time that it take to enter the same text in a microstock search bar -  but they have time browsing collections for inspirations?

Such naivity....

The only thing that is keeping customers from widely using Ai image generators now is that most of them do not know/understand yet what they are capable of. In a few years no one will bother with microstock agencies, unless he needs editorial content of real people, places or events.

Quote from: Her Ugliness on July 19, 2023, 10:29
Yeah, right. Customers don't have 5 seconds of time to write a promt in an AI generator - pretty much the same time that it take to enter the same text in a microstock search bar -  but they have time browsing collections for inspirations?

Such naivity....

You still think that entering the prompt means to reach immediatly the result you want.
But it doesn't work this way.
To have a nice result you have to adjust, change, modify, and try multiple variations; then you have to open, correct if needed, upscale if needed.

And all of this assuming the buyer has a really clear idea of the image: I think that most of buyers search for subject and/or concept, for sure they do not describe exactly the image in a search bar

Quote from: Her Ugliness on July 19, 2023, 10:29

Quote from: cobalt on July 19, 2023, 05:20

Customers don't have time to waste their day prompting. They come to agencies because they often don't even really know what kind of image they want. They browse ageny collections to get a better idea of the visual concept they need etc...

Yeah, right. Customers don't have 5 seconds of time to write a promt in an AI generator - pretty much the same time that it take to enter the same text in a microstock search bar -  but they have time browsing collections for inspirations?

Such naivity....

The only thing that is keeping customers from widely using Ai image generators now is that most of them do not know/understand yet what they are capable of. In a few years no one will bother with microstock agencies, unless he needs editorial content of real people, places or events.

I think you see it all a little too one-sided from the point of view of someone who already has experience with the creation and post-processing of images/illustrations and has been involved in the subject for a long time.

Many stock agency customers have neither the desire, creativity nor time to learn this new matter.

So the registration at Midjourney with the subsequent creation of images in the Discord-Chanel with possibly additions for example --vr 16:9 or --v 5 etc is anything but self-explanatory.

I may not be the fastest myself, but it took a few tutorials and help from a forum before I could even get started with Midjourney. Then the images have to be enlarged and reworked (for which you need a trained eye and software skills too) - if you get an image that fits your needs at all. The last point is still the biggest problem for me. 

Even if the workflow should simplify at some point, there will still be a whole series of customers who prefer the finished, directly visible product.

If the customers can prompt so easily, they surely can just press the button of a camera and take all the pictures themselves.

So why are they using stock agencies at all?

They even buy my horrible daily life food shots done with an iphone and some people pay 500 dollars for a license.

We are in the business of selling time to people who could probably do any images we upload themselves.

But they are busy running their projects, we are just a time saving resource.

July 24 sizes. Summary: AS is growing its collection agressively; everyone else is puttering

Adobe Stock AI collection [photos] {illustrations} (vectors) <videos>
12,731,818 [295,411] {12,386,484} (50,011) <356>

Dreamstime AI collection
3,787,241

CanStock collection (search for "generative ai") [search for "ai generated"]
(853,302) [853,284]

Shutterstock collection
782,127

123RF collection (search for "generative ai") [search for "ai generated"]
(654,968) [857,259]

DepositPhotos collection (search for "generative ai") [search for "ai generated"]
(99,769) [79,969]

(91,009) [77,259] vectors
(8,760) [2,710] photos
(2,394) [1,294] illustrations
(258) [1,482] videos

Quote from: Her Ugliness on July 19, 2023, 10:29
In a few years no one will bother with microstock agencies [...]

In a few months?...

Quote from: derby on July 19, 2023, 11:07

Quote from: Her Ugliness on July 19, 2023, 10:29
Yeah, right. Customers don't have 5 seconds of time to write a promt in an AI generator - pretty much the same time that it take to enter the same text in a microstock search bar -  but they have time browsing collections for inspirations?

Such naivity....

But it doesn't work this way.
To have a nice result you have to adjust, change, modify, and try multiple variations [...]

Oh... little dear... really?

Quote from: derby on July 19, 2023, 11:07

Quote from: Her Ugliness on July 19, 2023, 10:29
Yeah, right. Customers don't have 5 seconds of time to write a promt in an AI generator - pretty much the same time that it take to enter the same text in a microstock search bar -  but they have time browsing collections for inspirations?

Such naivity....

But it doesn't work this way.
To have a nice result you have to adjust, change, modify, and try multiple variations [...]

Then you are doing something wrong or are using the wrong AI generator.
I get "nice" results withouth adjust, change, modify, and try multiple variations.

Quote from: Her Ugliness on July 25, 2023, 07:15

Quote from: derby on July 19, 2023, 11:07

Quote from: Her Ugliness on July 19, 2023, 10:29
Yeah, right. Customers don't have 5 seconds of time to write a promt in an AI generator - pretty much the same time that it take to enter the same text in a microstock search bar -  but they have time browsing collections for inspirations?

Such naivity....

But it doesn't work this way.
To have a nice result you have to adjust, change, modify, and try multiple variations [...]

Then you are doing something wrong or are using the wrong AI generator.
I get "nice" results withouth adjust, change, modify, and try multiple variations.

Of course

Everyone know that you can get "nice" results even if you put just a question mark in the prompt 
You can get tons of "nice" results in few minutes, I'm agree.
But "nice" result is not the same as "useful" results for a buyer, this is the point.

By the way, we have different point of view. It's impossible to know at the moment if, for buyers, it will be better to have someone dedicated in creation of AI images, or if it will be better to pay and search for ready to use images

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on July 24, 2023, 19:16

Quote from: derby on July 19, 2023, 11:07

Quote from: Her Ugliness on July 19, 2023, 10:29
Yeah, right. Customers don't have 5 seconds of time to write a promt in an AI generator - pretty much the same time that it take to enter the same text in a microstock search bar -  but they have time browsing collections for inspirations?

Such naivity....

But it doesn't work this way.
To have a nice result you have to adjust, change, modify, and try multiple variations [...]

Oh... little dear... really?

Oh yes dear  a nice result for specific subject, specific concept, specific needs, takes much more time than a generic "nice" result 

It would be funny to imagine a test, where we choose a specific subject and test in how many seconds you can have a ready to use upscaled image 

Quote from: derby on July 25, 2023, 09:19
Oh yes dear  a nice result for specific subject, specific concept, specific needs, takes much more time than a generic "nice" result 
It would be funny to imagine a test, where we choose a specific subject and test in how many seconds you can have a ready to use upscaled image 

Oh sorry, I did not understood you were a customer.
Don't worry, in a few months, you will get your image entering your keywords as you did before, or your prompt (since its the new name). You will ask directly to the machine, nobody else  And please, don't tell all these autoproclamed "New artists" that they should already find another way to earn peanuts... 

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on July 25, 2023, 13:43
Oh sorry, I did not understood you were a customer.

I'm not. But trying to think as a customer is the first step to produce good images.

Anyway, your catastrophic precditions could be right, who knows meanwhile, if you think about so terrible future it would be better to change your job.
Because one thing is absolutely sure: AI is here, is useful, is available to everyone, and nothing will have the power to take us back in time

From a marketing perspective what they are doing makes perfect sense.

If I was in their sales force I would also want to have at least 20 million files that no other agency has (dreamstime doesn't take visible people), legal protection for the customer and a horde of thousands ambitious new producers who are improving their talent at light speed.

When customers look to renew or change their contract for stock end of the year, who will not go to Adobe?

At least for customers who mostly need creative content.

And you can switch ai content on or off with one button, easy enough to avoid or only search through ai.

Then they will have firefly ready for commercial use and generative ai in photoshop.

They are setting the standard for the entire industry.

And more customers means more sales. Not just for ai content, but for everything.

The other two large agencies haven't even started taking content. And I wouldn't be surprised if when firefly is ready and has an authentication marker, that other agencies reluctant so far will take firefly content.