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Started by blvdone, February 26, 2024, 12:57

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Injustice for all

Quote from: Shuttershock on August 28, 2024, 10:05
For me Shutterstock is steadily catching up with Adobe sales, I reckon Shutterstock sales will overtake Adobe by end of the year.

not for me.

As far as I'm concerned,Adobe is up 106.2% in terms of money this year and 25,9% more in terms of sales numbers,even despite the heavy rains of 10c of SS the number of sales on Adobe is higher for me.

Adobe is like a diesel engine,it takes time to warm up but when it starts running it reaches high performance,the other agencies are petrol engines,they have good acceleration when cold,but in the end they do less km!  :D

Mifornia

It's really weird keep reading about increased yearly income. That's not the reality for me, last year I was in 800-1200 position consistently and this year I'm at 4000-6000, so my sales are significantly down, yet my portfolio is 25 times bigger. Last year my portfolio was featured in recent top sellers 4 times, this year only once. Last year I had a couple of images that sold 1000 plus, this year I'm lucky to get 50 downloads for my "bestsellers" Some of my best images sit completely unnoticed.
I'm scratching my head here, but happy to see that it's working for somebody.

synthetick

Quote from: Mifornia on August 29, 2024, 22:59
Last year my portfolio was featured in recent top sellers 4 times, this year only once. Last year I had a couple of images that sold 1000 plus, this year I'm lucky to get 50 downloads for my "bestsellers"

Have you experienced a lot of copying of your bestsellers?

cobalt

Quote from: Mifornia on August 29, 2024, 22:59
It's really weird keep reading about increased yearly income. That's not the reality for me, last year I was in 800-1200 position consistently and this year I'm at 4000-6000, so my sales are significantly down, yet my portfolio is 25 times bigger. Last year my portfolio was featured in recent top sellers 4 times, this year only once. Last year I had a couple of images that sold 1000 plus, this year I'm lucky to get 50 downloads for my "bestsellers" Some of my best images sit completely unnoticed.
I'm scratching my head here, but happy to see that it's working for somebody.

Thank you for sharing this is really interesting. So interesting that someone at Adobe should perhaps look into this.

Like synthetick said, did you see a large number of copies after being featured? That could really crash your bestsellers and perhaps then Adobe should come up with a different system of featured artist. If the recent Bestsellers list is doing active damage to loyal producers it is not helpful at all.

When you say your port is 25 times bigger...did you really grow from 1000 files to 25000? Perhaps with the help of ai?

Or did you miscalculate, seems a little extreme? Or maybe from 100 files to 2500?

I hope you can figure out what the problem is.

I always keep checking my main competitors to make sure I don't upload something too similar to them but also to check if I am being copied. So far I haven't found a port with real copies of what I do. Lots of similar content, especially with ai, but no real intentional copies.

Injustice for all

Quote from: Mifornia on August 29, 2024, 22:59
It's really weird keep reading about increased yearly income. That's not the reality for me, last year I was in 800-1200 position consistently and this year I'm at 4000-6000, so my sales are significantly down, yet my portfolio is 25 times bigger. Last year my portfolio was featured in recent top sellers 4 times, this year only once. Last year I had a couple of images that sold 1000 plus, this year I'm lucky to get 50 downloads for my "bestsellers" Some of my best images sit completely unnoticed.
I'm scratching my head here, but happy to see that it's working for somebody.

those were the results compared to Shutterstock,but anyway yes,my sales on Adobe increase every year,but you have to consider that I still have a low income,so it's easier for me to grow.

however your case is strange,there is something that escapes me,I don't think it is possible to earn less with a portfolio 25 times larger.

cobalt

things are slow and steady, august lower than july

hope it picks up next month

pos 3410, files 5980


MPfoto71

Yes, you're right - at the moment it's quite constant at a low level.
Hopefully things will pick up again soon, it's about time...

Pos 4.280

Today's Friday is also quite interesting - I usually have around 12-14 DL in the early afternoon, today exactly 1 DL.
Maybe I've already filled my weekly quota of downloads ;-)

Pacesetter

#807
Quite good this week and overall pretty good month on Adobe with some recovery in earnings in recent weeks as the trend line shows...

pires128


HalfFull

Starting to move back up from a low of 750... seems like the summer slow down is coming to an end!!

cobalt

Yes, moving up a little as well. Winter is coming...

A low of 750 is brilliant for a single artist! Thank you for sharing, I am grateful to see what is possible with hard work.

pos 2990, 6k files

HalfFull

Cheers...I've been at it for quite some time now. Anything is possible but it is harder now than it has ever been due to the volume of new files being added. Makes it difficult for new work to be seen and to become established in terms of sales.

Shuttershock


This week / Downloads 14 / Earnings $12.34 / Position 7,840th

SuperPhoto

Quote from: HalfFull on September 03, 2024, 08:47
Starting to move back up from a low of 750... seems like the summer slow down is coming to an end!!

Is that the "beginning" of this week? (I.e., Monday/one days sales?) Just noticed when you posted it... If so, wow, good job!

SuperPhoto

Quote from: Pacesetter on August 31, 2024, 07:56
Quite good this week and overall pretty good month on Adobe with some recovery in earnings in recent weeks as the trend line shows...

Haha, the way you worded that sounds almost like a weather forecast... i.e.,

"There were some bumps, some highs and low, but looks like the forecast for next week is going to be nice sunny, with high double digits every day!"... :)

HalfFull

Quote from: SuperPhoto on September 03, 2024, 13:16
Quote from: HalfFull on September 03, 2024, 08:47
Starting to move back up from a low of 750... seems like the summer slow down is coming to an end!!

Is that the "beginning" of this week? (I.e., Monday/one days sales?) Just noticed when you posted it... If so, wow, good job!

I wish  :) It was for six days. I grabbed it last week but didn't get time to post. Rank 548 as of today. Looking at previous years stats it takes until mid September to regain normal momentum again.

Mifornia

#816
Quote from: synthetick on August 30, 2024, 00:45

Have you experienced a lot of copying of your bestsellers?
Yes, all of my of bestsellers got copied by several different ports. One image got copied so many times, that now there are pages and pages of just copies.

#cobalt yes, I did miscalculate, it's 10 times not 25 times. yes, I'm making much less this summer than last. So it's totally possible to make less with a much larger port.


cobalt

Mifornia,

it makes me so sad to read this.

Please consider sending a link to your port to Mat. what worries me most is that you had files with an excellent season, over 1000 downloads and now that income is abruptly destroyed.

Since you were four times on the bestseller list, this indeed indicates that getting onto that list is damaging for the artist.

I think adobe should carefully investigate this and then offer those of us who want it, an opt out.


Mifornia

#818
Mat told me that there is no way to opt out of bestseller list, it's an automated process.

Did you read Neo-Leo case? https://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/the-end-for-original-content-creators-it's-official!/

Shuttershock

But how many contributors are there? We can only see who is better than us not who is worse than us :-)

blvdone

#820
Quote from: HalfFull on September 03, 2024, 08:47
Starting to move back up from a low of 750... seems like the summer slow down is coming to an end!!


I thought that was a number from yesterday for 2 days of the week and I thought that equals to $5,000/month, but I think it's for the entire last week.  It's nice to know how many sales you need to get to 500 level.  Thanks!!

cobalt

When I was in that position...very briefly...that would have been a result for the week.

Hope to get back up there again.

@mifornia

"automated system"...this is software, not a law of nature like gravity. Of course they can change it. Adobe is one of the largest software companies in the world, so...

At the very least they could consider that you can only be on the list once per year per media type.

It will give exposure to more artist and should lessen the copycat risk.

if you were featured four times you might as well have a flashing sign on your port that says "steal ideas here".

For the image to image theft...the basic problem is that the base compositions as is are very simple and not new. The copy abuse however is very clear if you see how many times he was "inspired"

If I was an agency I would look closely - was the abusive inspiration only in the beginning? A newbie trying things out with copies? Did he then move on to do something different and creative?

Or does it remain a copycat port? 10 k duplicates of duplicates...

How does Adobe or any agency benefit from someone who only copies? Would I need more near identical duplicates?

I think that is where I would personally draw the line.

The collection already has too many duplicates.

But it is not an easy to decision, especially when it is mostly design elements.

Obviously if it happens to me I will be furious and bring out my pitchfork...

But I think for the agency things are often not that simple.

alexandersr

#822
 3826 images :-[  :-[