Quote from: Brasilnut on December 01, 2025, 15:50
It's never too late to get into drones. Grab a sub-250g mini as soon as you can and start flying, in the EU you don't even need to pass exams...just register online with your national aviation authority and you're good to go.

I think Cobalt is from Germany, and in Germany before you fly even a sub-250g drone, you need to have an insurance. Also at least a few days to weeks to research and understand the rules, especially if flying within cities or close to anything interesting.

Quote from: cobalt on December 01, 2025, 06:37...
My biggest concern is how the dollar will hold up against the Euro. Trump is crashing the US economy like his casinos. So we might get a lot less sales from the US and the dollar might drop 20%.
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just back from 2 months in europe  & change is noticeable - dollar has gone from about par in Jan to € now worth $1.15

Quote from: cobalt on November 29, 2025, 17:23

Plenty of blonde white blue eyed people doing ai....will you feel better about your sales if the right ethnic group submits it?

I'm sure there are - but the hoardes of east indians & muslims greatly outnumber the ones that lie/cheat/steal/etc... it is interesting though how pyschologically abused a segment of the "white" population has become, that they will actually harm themselves instead of seeing the truth right in front of them. For example - while an entirely different topic - many germans in general are afraid of challenging the official narrative of world war II/*, lest they be attacked viciously. So they will apologize profusely in advance, in many ways for something they never did, and had no part in - but they don't want to be attacked. This "D.E.I" (an anagram for "D.I.E") initiative, is a massive pyschological abuse/attack campaign on caucasian, white people. So it would be a lot of work - but - if you can - try and take a step back and see what is plainly in your face. Yes, east indians & muslims are different, their 'business tactics' are different, and they have (in general) no shame/remorse/etc in stealing and resorting to whatever dishonest tactic they can to 'get money' - because its their culture. Yes, some "white" people do that too. But most of the people submitting creating 10-20 profiles to spam the sh*t out of adobe, stealing & uploading entire portfolios from 'unlimited' stock sites - are in fact, east indian & muslim. No 'racism' here - its a fact. Look at the names. Look at the data. It's just how it is. It's sad, but that's what it is.

Quote from: cobalt on November 29, 2025, 17:23
Customers can remove ai with one click in a search, I don't see a big problem and most agencies don't take ai.

At the moment I have a lot of ai on Adobe, but in proportion classic camera content and camera videos are outselling ai by quite a bit. However...this might also be because I am not very good at creating sellable ai content. There are quite a few ai people doing extremely well. But they also have very good content and usually a background as a designer or 3D creator.

But the large influx of mass ai uploads seems to be going down. A lot less YouTubers promoting ai and the prompters have learned that working with stock agencies is not an easy money source.

The ai discord channel on Adobe is pretty quiet these days.

I keep doing test searches for content and especially with video it feels like photos in 2008. Basically everything is wide open. The easiest is editorial, there is so much content, even local content, nobody has ever documented or uploaded.

Financially the best is probably to do drone videos.But for next year my roadmap is already full. Perhaps in 2027 or 2028, we will see.

But I am optimistic.

A lot of experienced old-timers are leaving and retiring and the new crowd is not that interested in learning about who the customers are and how to look for needed content.

They also mass upload content with their smartphones, not just ai. Getting a real camera and learning about lighting, lenses, composition seems like a huge chore to them.

They seem to be motivated by "easy online money/passive income"...and we know they will move on after 2 years because stock agencies don't work like a YouTube channel.

So...from my perspective...the real competition is leaving and the new people coming in are not really making a longterm effort.

Of course we don't know how customer habits might change, but I doubt they will all start prompting all their needs. I did ai for 2 years and it takes ages to get it right.

Everybody has to make their decisions, but I am still optimistic, especially for video.

There is a different factor at play though - in that certain companies are trying to make people dependent on the 'ai/video' subscription model (whose models were primarily based off of stolen works). All the 'google ai' video, the 'midjourney ai' video, the 'runwayML' (funded by google) ai, the sora video, etc, etc - massive massive theft. And trying their hardest to push that under the rug.

That being said - yes, I would agree that there will still be a demand for authentic/non-ai video. Now whether Adobe (for example) has revised the algorithm to favor original video, I don't know - but I have actually seen more of my non-ai videos sell, than 'ai' videos.

In general though - my sales have dropped significantly from them - which is concerning - and I suspect maybe they are trying to give everyone a 'piece of the pie' - so no one can easily/really get 'rich' from them - so if you keep submitting - whether its 100's or 1000's or 10000's - you'lll still make roughly/exactly the same amount - because it seems the income is being redistributed in a 'socialist' manner. (Which in some ways in sounds like you might like that, because your belief system seems to align with that of socialism/communism - i.e., "diversity/inclusion/equity' - making everyone get "equal pay" regardless of the work or skill involved). But once the actual producers realize they aren't being compensated for their work - because parasitic people are feeding off their work - they stop working - and there's nothing left to feed off of. That being saying - seems like the parasitic 'ai' tools are trying to give them an easy way to do that.

Quote from: mike123 on December 01, 2025, 17:19

Quote from: Brasilnut on December 01, 2025, 15:50
It's never too late to get into drones. Grab a sub-250g mini as soon as you can and start flying, in the EU you don't even need to pass exams...just register online with your national aviation authority and you're good to go.

I think Cobalt is from Germany, and in Germany before you fly even a sub-250g drone, you need to have an insurance. Also at least a few days to weeks to research and understand the rules, especially if flying within cities or close to anything interesting.

Funny thing is - no one "needs" to have insurance. No one "needs" to follow arbitrary laws, but when one does - it establishes a slave-master relationship.

Do I agree with some of the "rules"? Sure - I think it would be wise not to fly into a building, etc, etc. But does one "need" to do it? No.

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on December 01, 2025, 10:45

Quote from: SuperPhoto on November 29, 2025, 12:16
Yes, but it is kind of difficult with most sites doing lower compensation, adobe algo changes with drastic drops, hordes of east indian/arab 'ai' spammers and outright theft of entire portfolios, etc, etc.

You're right, of course. But here, people aren't interested in the truth (because you're only stating facts here), they prefer to disseminate their ideology and make accusations.

Thank-you & yes. A lot of people (even myself in the past) have been subjected to massive pyschological manipulation. Growth & maturity is realizing you made mistakes, were duped, fooled, etc into certain belief systems, and learning from it and improving oneself. Sadly a lot of people - while they may be adults, are still children stuck in adult bodies.

Quote from: SuperPhoto on December 01, 2025, 23:12
Funny thing is - no one "needs" to have insurance. No one "needs" to follow arbitrary laws, but when one does - it establishes a slave-master relationship.

If you never get checked by the police, you don't "need" anything. Good luck avoiding police when flying in a German city, especially right now, when they get called the moment someone sees a drone in the sky 

Quote from: cobalt on November 29, 2025, 17:23

But I am optimistic.

A lot of experienced old-timers are leaving and retiring and the new crowd is not that interested in learning about who the customers are and how to look for needed content.

They also mass upload content with their smartphones, not just ai. Getting a real camera and learning about lighting, lenses, composition seems like a huge chore to them.

They seem to be motivated by "easy online money/passive income"...and we know they will move on after 2 years because stock agencies don't work like a YouTube channel.

So...from my perspective...the real competition is leaving and the new people coming in are not really making a longterm effort.

Of course we don't know how customer habits might change, but I doubt they will all start prompting all their needs. I did ai for 2 years and it takes ages to get it right.

Everybody has to make their decisions, but I am still optimistic, especially for video.

The problem isn't the spammers, the copycats, the people motivated by "easy online money/passive income," or "the new crowd that isn't really interested in learning who the customers are or how to look for needed content."

The problem is the platforms that allow them to sell their garbage.

It's the result of the gamification of work, the dismantling of the barrier between professionals and amateurs, and the lack of distinction between quality content and trash: both are sold at the same price and on the same platform. Side by side. There's no entrance exam anymore; you don't have to prove you can do the job. You just open an account and start earning.

And the goal of all this is only one: to reduce the cost of producing content so they can pay less and less to those who create images and videos. To turn real jobs into pastimes and real salaries into pocket change—just enough to pay for a dinner once a month. And this is happening in other fields too, like writing, music, web design, and many others. It's the "platform economy": selling subscriptions at low prices and at high volumes, selling everything like a bazaar, mixing professional with amateur work.

Platforms cut their biggest expense (content creation), and they use the money saved to fuel marketing, which boosts their margins.

And AI is an amplifier of all this, because it significantly reduces the skill gap between professionals and amateurs, making amateur content go from mediocre to "good enough." People think this is a good thing because it allows everyone to earn something, but they don't realize that when a technique becomes democratic and accessible to all, the main consequence is that the value of what is created becomes lower and lower and tends toward zero. If everyone can do it, why should I pay a high price for it?

The solution for us professional creators would be to block mediocres and spammers at the gate and restore a tough portfolio review before being allowed to work for an agency. But that won't happen, because agencies are interested in lowering the cost of their raw material: content. And the best strategy to achieve that is to create chaos by making no distinction between good and bad, between professional images and snapshots.

Quote from: SuperPhoto on December 01, 2025, 23:12

Quote from: mike123 on December 01, 2025, 17:19

Quote from: Brasilnut on December 01, 2025, 15:50
It's never too late to get into drones. Grab a sub-250g mini as soon as you can and start flying, in the EU you don't even need to pass exams...just register online with your national aviation authority and you're good to go.

I think Cobalt is from Germany, and in Germany before you fly even a sub-250g drone, you need to have an insurance. Also at least a few days to weeks to research and understand the rules, especially if flying within cities or close to anything interesting.

Funny thing is - no one "needs" to have insurance. No one "needs" to follow arbitrary laws, but when one does - it establishes a slave-master relationship.

Do I agree with some of the "rules"? Sure - I think it would be wise not to fly into a building, etc, etc. But does one "need" to do it? No.

I mean if you fly a mini in the middle of nowhere and don't bother anybody, what's the harm? The problem are people flying Mavics in sport mode over people in urban area (and worse close to heliports and airports). It's only going to get worse as drones become more affordable.

There are many rules which don't make much sense in some countries such as needing insurance for a Mini. It's not a crime if you're caught without it, just face a fine (at worst). Either pay 20 euros a month or face 5% chance every month of a 500 euro fine. There are so many people who drive without insurance as well or don't have health insurance (in the US - ouch). I'm quite libertarian but each to their own but be prepared to face consequences when the luck runs out.

It's not difficult to follow the main rules, which are common sense. My eBook discussed all that in detail, as well as the loopholes and what to do if you're caught not following the rules.

Quote from: Brasilnut on December 02, 2025, 16:44

Quote from: SuperPhoto on December 01, 2025, 23:12

Quote from: mike123 on December 01, 2025, 17:19

Quote from: Brasilnut on December 01, 2025, 15:50
It's never too late to get into drones. Grab a sub-250g mini as soon as you can and start flying, in the EU you don't even need to pass exams...just register online with your national aviation authority and you're good to go.

I think Cobalt is from Germany, and in Germany before you fly even a sub-250g drone, you need to have an insurance. Also at least a few days to weeks to research and understand the rules, especially if flying within cities or close to anything interesting.

Funny thing is - no one "needs" to have insurance. No one "needs" to follow arbitrary laws, but when one does - it establishes a slave-master relationship.

Do I agree with some of the "rules"? Sure - I think it would be wise not to fly into a building, etc, etc. But does one "need" to do it? No.

I mean if you fly a mini in the middle of nowhere and don't bother anybody, what's the harm? The problem are people flying Mavics in sport mode over people in urban area (and worse close to heliports and airports). It's only going to get worse as drones become more affordable.

There are many rules which don't make much sense in some countries such as needing insurance for a Mini. It's not a crime if you're caught without it, just face a fine (at worst). Either pay 20 euros a month or face 5% chance every month of a 500 euro fine. There are so many people who drive without insurance as well or don't have health insurance (in the US - ouch). I'm quite libertarian but each to their own but be prepared to face consequences when the luck runs out.

It's not difficult to follow the main rules, which are common sense. My eBook discussed all that in detail, as well as the loopholes and what to do if you're caught not following the rules.

Yes - a big eye opener for me though was the insane "rules" during the fake 'convid-virus' crises. I was shocked just how dumb/compliant/non-thinking most people were (and how some are still like that). I did not realize they were really quite institutionalized. Like waitresses that were wearing air tight 'masks' and were on the verge of passing out because they were suffocating themselves (had a number that I had to explicitly tell it was okay to breathe, and to take off the stupid contraption when they came to my table). Or - people "following the arrows" and some SCREECHING at you if you walked "the wrong way", not realizing if there was an invisible 'virus' - it doesn't care, it's not going to 'follow the arrows'. Or - how one day - "underwear" were declared "safe goods" to buy, but then the next day they were "dangerous goods" and you could only buy t-shirts, etc. It wasn't "confused authority figures" trying to figure things out... It was a small group of very rich powerful people just seeing how dumb & obedient most people would be, and to my shock, that was a lot. (And then finally injecting themselves with a poison that actually now does cause 'long convid', 'turbo cancers', 'heart attacks', 'death', etc, etc).

But I guess people most of their life have been used to "doing as they were told", and money being used to threaten/coerce them - or to entice them into certain actions. It was hard for most working class people to break out of that mindset. (Rich people didn't care btw, they had LOTS of big parties. Because apparently 'the virus' was allergic to money. The bigger the bag of money you had, the "healthier" & "safer" you were).

It's interesting that you brought up the thing about "fines" for flying drones. So basically - "rich" people can fly whenever & whereever they see fit (because a $500 is 'meh', peanuts, like a nickle to a poor person) - whereas it is 'poor people' that 'need to comply', otherwise maybe they can't pay rent that month, eat food, etc.

So... I see "rules" a new way. People have been born into a system, pretty much from birth - in which the first 20 years of their life via schooling (& then another 20 years if they 'get a job') to 'obey, comply, keep your head down, do as your told and we might give you a couple crumbs'.

Fact is - no one "has" to "automatically" obey something, and people need to realize that. Like there was a running joke during convid - 'Aren't you glad the govt didn't tell you that you had to bend down on your knees, and suck a d__k to 'stay safe', otherwise you'd be 'fined'? (The REALLY sad thing - is if that HAD been said - there would have actually been people that not only would have done that, but would have screamed at other people to do it, screaming 'ur KILLINppl! why aren't you obeying the rules and suckin d__k? GAHHHH!'.

Now - for certain 'rules' - do I 'agree' with them? Sure - I think it makes perfect and total sense not to fly around airports, big buildings, etc - unless of course you take certain safety precautions, etc, because otherwise that potentially could be pretty dangerous. And I think 'genuine' safety is important. But does one "have" to? No. Perhaps - when drones were first sold if there was some kind of membership club that said 'we'll sell this to you providing you agree to these rules we set forth' would be one thing. Personally I think drones should also have some kind of mechanical 'mini-parachute' backup system in case the power goes, just to totally be on the safe side (so you don't basically have a 'rock' falling out of the sky in case of some major malfunction). If companies, and "govt" were GENUINELY concerned about "safety" - that is one thing they'd do. But they aren't. It's about CONTROL.

For an unnamed/unaccountable 'governing body' to dictate what you may and may not do? Nah, that's wrong. Most times they don't necessarily have your best interests at heart, but are rather pursuing self interests & trying to find a big bag of cash. And then you learn its the people pulling the strings of the WEF/UN/etc that are 'making rules' - not for your 'safety & protection' - but for your control, kind of like how a rancher microchips cattle, and that is wrong.

I'm sure I'll catch a ton of flack for saying this, but if you haven't started leveraging as much as possible using AI, you are slowing down while others are speeding up. Even if your focus is traditional artforms, news, editorial, nature, etc...AI can take your busy work to zero and the only expertise it takes to make it work is the ability to ask a question.

There are creative people out there who are great at what they do AND they are putting all their efforts into leveraging their work with AI and that is your competition. It's absolutely terrifying and fun.

Quote from: LithG on December 03, 2025, 09:14
I'm sure I'll catch a ton of flack for saying this, but if you haven't started leveraging as much as possible using AI, you are slowing down while others are speeding up. Even if your focus is traditional artforms, news, editorial, nature, etc...AI can take your busy work to zero and the only expertise it takes to make it work is the ability to ask a question.

There are creative people out there who are great at what they do AND they are putting all their efforts into leveraging their work with AI and that is your competition. It's absolutely terrifying and fun.

Which model do you prefer using?

I use gpt-4o-mini for descriptions (cause it's cheap AF and works) and claude (Opus 4.5) for coding/problem solving. Sometimes I use gpt-5 for planning stuff.

Quote from: cobalt on December 01, 2025, 06:37
Hugo is the most interesting new full time creator of the last two years. But also in the blackbox group on facebook you often see drone creators with very reliable and high income.

Perhaps in 2027 or 28 I will think about a drone as well.

I need around 2500  before tax on average to make it with a low income level. 3.5k would be better. But I am not sure if I can reach that as a reliable monthly income.

Last year was around 800 a month, this year because of 80% less uploads probably around 600 on average. Next year should be better.

My biggest concern is how the dollar will hold up against the Euro. Trump is crashing the US economy like his casinos. So we might get a lot less sales from the US and the dollar might drop 20%.

First half of 2026 I will still be busy with other stuff, but by May or June I should be able to finally do stock full time. First time in my life.

I'm overall going to earn less this year with stock even with 1) reasonably consistent uploading, 2) Adobe Stock performing better, 3) an additional monetized site (Storyblocks). A monetized YouTube channel in April 2025 will bring the total income to a bit more than 2024. I can't speak for AI but stock is too challenging now to see noticeable earnings growth. I think you're going to have trouble seeing 1000 a month given these conditions, but I'd like to be proven wrong and see what you can achieve. My average monthly income for 2025 is $1112 from stock (not including YouTube and two larger bonus payments from AS and SS). 2024 was $1210 monthly average. So a noticeable fall.

Quote from: LithG on December 03, 2025, 09:14
I'm sure I'll catch a ton of flack for saying this, but if you haven't started leveraging as much as possible using AI, you are slowing down while others are speeding up. Even if your focus is traditional artforms, news, editorial, nature, etc...AI can take your busy work to zero and the only expertise it takes to make it work is the ability to ask a question.

There are creative people out there who are great at what they do AND they are putting all their efforts into leveraging their work with AI and that is your competition. It's absolutely terrifying and fun.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! For your honesty!
You explain that the expertise of the "creative people" you are talking about is "the ability to ask a question". 
So from your point of view, a company like Getty is ignorant of the realities of the industry and of its clients' needs by only offering AI-free productions? 

We measure the extent to which lazyness, incompetence, creates abject and unfair competition, by people like you, without moral or professional value.
You're only accelerating to crash into a wall, sorry to inform you about that.
Fed up with this immature new generation demanding "fun" everywhere.

5 months of growth about the last 6 months, after 19 years of presence in the microstock industry.
Sorry, my sales of AI free products aren't crashing the way you would like! 

Quote from: Pacesetter on December 03, 2025, 10:29

Quote from: cobalt on December 01, 2025, 06:37
Hugo is the most interesting new full time creator of the last two years. But also in the blackbox group on facebook you often see drone creators with very reliable and high income.

Perhaps in 2027 or 28 I will think about a drone as well.

I need around 2500  before tax on average to make it with a low income level. 3.5k would be better. But I am not sure if I can reach that as a reliable monthly income.

Last year was around 800 a month, this year because of 80% less uploads probably around 600 on average. Next year should be better.

My biggest concern is how the dollar will hold up against the Euro. Trump is crashing the US economy like his casinos. So we might get a lot less sales from the US and the dollar might drop 20%.

First half of 2026 I will still be busy with other stuff, but by May or June I should be able to finally do stock full time. First time in my life.

I'm overall going to earn less this year with stock even with 1) reasonably consistent uploading, 2) Adobe Stock performing better, 3) an additional monetized site (Storyblocks). A monetized YouTube channel in April 2025 will bring the total income to a bit more than 2024. I can't speak for AI but stock is too challenging now to see noticeable earnings growth. I think you're going to have trouble seeing 1000 a month given these conditions, but I'd like to be proven wrong and see what you can achieve. My average monthly income for 2025 is $1112 from stock (not including YouTube and two larger bonus payments from AS and SS). 2024 was $1210 monthly average. So a noticeable fall.

I've seen your YouTube channel and you make good use of your drone. Congrats on monetising it. I need to focus more on mine. 😆

By the way, would love to have you on board here where you can share your work as well.

https://dji-pilots.com

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on December 03, 2025, 11:17

Quote from: LithG on December 03, 2025, 09:14
I'm sure I'll catch a ton of flack for saying this, but if you haven't started leveraging as much as possible using AI, you are slowing down while others are speeding up. Even if your focus is traditional artforms, news, editorial, nature, etc...AI can take your busy work to zero and the only expertise it takes to make it work is the ability to ask a question.

There are creative people out there who are great at what they do AND they are putting all their efforts into leveraging their work with AI and that is your competition. It's absolutely terrifying and fun.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! For your honesty!
You explain that the expertise of the "creative people" you are talking about is "the ability to ask a question". 
So from your point of view, a company like Getty is ignorant of the realities of the industry and of its clients' needs by only offering AI-free productions? 

We measure the extent to which lazyness, incompetence, creates abject and unfair competition, by people like you, without moral or professional value.
You're only accelerating to crash into a wall, sorry to inform you about that.
Fed up with this immature new generation demanding "fun" everywhere.

5 months of growth about the last 6 months, after 19 years of presence in the microstock industry.
Sorry, my sales of AI free products aren't crashing the way you would like! 

I didn't realize we were all running non-profits!

I've been selling stock footage for 16 years. The majority of my stock income still comes through Getty even when you include my AI sales on Adobe Stock. AI is a tool for research and automation, not just producing AI content.

Quote from: LithG on December 03, 2025, 15:58

I've been selling stock footage for 16 years. The majority of my stock income still comes through Getty even when you include my AI sales on Adobe Stock. AI is a tool for research and automation, not just producing AI content.

I have never used and will never use generative AI to create images or videos to sell.

I simply don't like it.

And as a business, I don't see much of a future (in microstock business) for it, because it can be easily copied and it's difficult to develop a personal style (and if you find one, they'll copy it).

Despite this, my portfolio earnings are up 14% this year after two years of decline (more then 15 years in the business). Perhaps people are starting to rediscover "Made by Human" products.

But I use AI to speed up my workflow. But there are some problems here too. 

Do you like the way automatic keywording programs create titles, descriptions, and keywords? I think they need a human review.

I may have halved my keywording time, but it still takes me 8-10 minutes per image, from uploading it to the AI ​​program to reviewing the title, description, and 50 keywords. Can you do it faster?

Otherwise, I only use AI in my workflow for noise reduction (great job, albeit very slow), dust removal (good job, always needs revision), and removal of people or commercial signs (good job, a bit slow and always requires human intervention, and you have to take small steps at a time).

I haven't spent much time looking at online keywording tools so I can't speak to their quality. I would worry about what happens to my information after it get's fed through an SAAS and if it could be used to gather statistics. I've found AI versions of real nature shots I've done on Adobe stock that are clearly using my videos as a base. Imagine what someone could do with your videos, your prompts, your keywords and being able to track that back to your uploads/popularity. So I use my own solution. I still audit my descriptions out of habit but rarely have to make changes. The cost is a fraction of what online services charge.

>Can you do it faster?

I could describe my entire Adobe Stock portfolio (10000 videos and images) overnight. I would feel comfortable with hitting submit without looking at anything (but audit out of habit still). It would cost me $7.

Quote from: SuperPhoto on December 01, 2025, 23:08



.. . Yes, east indians & muslims are different, their 'business tactics' are different, and they have (in general) no shame/remorse/etc in stealing and resorting to whatever dishonest tactic they can to 'get money' - because its their culture. Yes, some "white" people do that too. But most of the people submitting creating 10-20 profiles to spam the sh*t out of adobe, stealing & uploading entire portfolios from 'unlimited' stock sites - are in fact, east indian & muslim. No 'racism' here - its a fact. Look at the names. Look at the data. It's just how it is. It's sad, but that's what it is.

stereotyping entire populations, religions, etc is the DEFINITION of racist!

have you ever actually visited India or a predominantly Muslim country? or read the Quran ? a few miscreants do not define over a billion people

Quote from: LithG on December 03, 2025, 15:58
I didn't realize we were all running non-profits!

...

I've been selling stock footage for 16 years. The majority of my stock income still comes through Getty even when you include my AI sales on Adobe Stock. AI is a tool for research and automation, not just producing AI content.

yep, ignore the luddites - same folk who condemned digital because it let everyone do it! 

i use chat to help w my blog - producing a rough draft from my quick notes & observations, getting rough drafts of historical subjects, etc

but it's using https://www.visualmind.ai/ for captioning & keywording that has broken the biggest hurdle in prepping submissions - i've captioned over 5000 images this year, including most of the pix i took on travels over the last 2 months