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Can inspections become more inane?

Started by PeterChigmaroff, October 13, 2008, 20:39

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traveler1116

So I had an image selected by Snapvillage as their editors pick or whatever they call it on the home page and it was the 1 out of 15 that was rejected by IS.  It's funny I wonder why that one was the one that got chosen to be rejected, many of the accepted images were from the same shoot and processed the same.  Their loss I guess.

bittersweet

Quote from: hrhportia on November 11, 2008, 05:42
I got a keyword rejection last week for this:  I placed a diamond necklace over the heel of a black high-heeled dress shoe.  The wingnuts at iS rejected it, saying that the words "diamond" (as in precious stone) and "necklace" (as in jewelry accessory) were not appropriate to the image.

Okay, how do I describe a diamond necklace without using the words "diamond" and "necklace"????  At first, I couldn't believe the rejection; on second thought, I seriously considered nuking IS's corporate headquarters.  ARRRGGHHH!!!!  Does a potential "inspector" have to have a double-digit IQ to qualify for the job?  If that's the case, we're all in serious trouble here.   :D

Portia

This one is clearly a mistake, as humans are apt to make from time to time (except for all of you of course). As instructed in the following thread, you can send a sitemail to Jordan or you can post a thread there:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=78246&page=1

You'll have much more likely opportunity of having the mistake corrected by bringing it to the appropriate person's attention, than by posting insults here. But of course if that is your ultimate goal, rather than getting your file approved, feel free to disregard my advice.

Sean Locke Photography

I hesitate to comment on any keywording 'mistake' without first seeing the image in question.

Lizard

#103
Quote from: sjlocke on November 11, 2008, 14:19
I hesitate to comment on any keywording 'mistake' without first seeing the image in question.

Here you go

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/business/business-concepts/609908-treasure-chest.php?id=609908
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/sports-and-leisure/2590785-the-red-carpet.php?id=2590785

Well if you like, you can start at your own backyard , and comment whats keyword "vector" doing there , and I just scratched the surface with 2 random files on your portfolios first page.

So if there is part of the harp , its not ok to use it ,but its ok to use vector on 3D renders ?


I'm not a saint either , but I don't pretend to be one.

bittersweet

#104
Quote from: sjlocke on November 11, 2008, 14:19
I hesitate to comment on any keywording 'mistake' without first seeing the image in question.

Obviously my comments were based on her representation of the work as a high heel draped with a diamond necklace. If this is not what is actually in the image (rhinestones or other costume --non precious--  jewelry for instance), then they were correct in removing that word. But you're right that it's probably not a good idea to assume anything without seeing the image.

ETA:

Maybe this is it?
http://www.dreamstime.com/dress-shoe-image6679443
http://www.123rf.com/photo_3691137.html

It's hard to tell much without zoom. I registered at 123 so that I could be allowed to zoom, and at a 66% zoom, if this is the same image you uploaded to IS, I can imagine there might be other reasons for the rejection.

Sean Locke Photography

Quote from: Lizard on November 11, 2008, 14:36
Well if you like, you can start at your own backyard

Unfortunately, I was not here complaining about a specific rejection, as hrhportia was, so there was no need to go trying to critique me.  Nevertheless, "vector" would be an inappropriate keyword, and must have snuck by when I was cleaning out the auto-DAing on my two thousand files.  So thanks so much.

I also did not say anything about sainthood.  I commented that you can not automatically agree with people's assessment of keyword removals without seeing the image.  98% of the people complaining about iStock keywording turn out to be wrong.

Speaking of images, how about a link to your images so we can see how hot you are?

Lizard

Quote from: sjlocke on November 11, 2008, 18:11
Quote from: Lizard on November 11, 2008, 14:36
Well if you like, you can start at your own backyard

Unfortunately, I was not here complaining about a specific rejection, as hrhportia was, so there was no need to go trying to critique me.  Nevertheless, "vector" would be an inappropriate keyword, and must have snuck by when I was cleaning out the auto-DAing on my two thousand files.  So thanks so much.

I also did not say anything about sainthood.  I commented that you can not automatically agree with people's assessment of keyword removals without seeing the image.  98% of the people complaining about iStock keywording turn out to be wrong.

Speaking of images, how about a link to your images so we can see how hot you are?



Unfortunately, I was not here complaining too , even If I have good reasons to do so , and I think some times there is no need for keyword rejections , but reviewer just finds few words balancing on the edge
and presses the button. Sometimes they just pick few perfectly good words , so I had illustrations done with texture brushes rejected for grunge , scans of old paper rejected for "background" etc.



But seeing that you are not so perfect at keywording :) , your posts are too arrogant , especially the comment about the that persons income on Alamy.

You were not here complaining about a specific rejection, as hrhportia was, so there was no need to go trying to critique you ?

Its not about that..

I agree that there are many complaints that are not on valid ground , but that's not the reason to attack a person in his income direction , and show your big fat muscles there.


You want to see "how hot am I ?

Here you go ,feed your ego .....

http://www.istockphoto.com/user_view.php?id=836626




Sean Locke Photography

Quote from: Lizard on November 11, 2008, 19:25
But seeing that you are not so perfect at keywording :) , your posts are too arrogant , especially the comment about the that persons income on Alamy.

Obviously you missed the point that 100% approvals at a site where you may make less than the site with 50% approvals may not be so great.  That's what I was bringing up.

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You were not here complaining about a specific rejection, as hrhportia was, so there was no need to go trying to critique you ?

I was not complaining about any rejection at all.

madelaide

Quote from: sjlocke on November 11, 2008, 18:11
98% of the people complaining about iStock keywording turn out to be wrong.
I don't think the % is correct, it's probably much less.

This image:


had Rose (Temperate Flower), rosebud (), Ripple (Wave), Rippled (Physical Description), and Copy Space (Composition), among others that were indeed stretched concepts (such as Valentine's Day and Passion), removed.  Many other examples were given here in other threads, and certainly many other examples exist.

Regards,
Adelaide

Lizard

Quote from: sjlocke on November 11, 2008, 20:18
Quote from: Lizard on November 11, 2008, 19:25
But seeing that you are not so perfect at keywording :) , your posts are too arrogant , especially the comment about the that persons income on Alamy.

Obviously you missed the point that 100% approvals at a site where you may make less than the site with 50% approvals may not be so great.  That's what I was bringing up.

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You were not here complaining about a specific rejection, as hrhportia was, so there was no need to go trying to critique you ?

I was not complaining about any rejection at all.

I know that you were not complaining about rejections thats what I wrote , I was trying to say that , you were too rude to a person , at least for my taste.

I wasnt complaining either but since I joined the party , I will try to explain my point of view.

I had some reviews that I dont agree with , and whit beeing strict like that , they can easily remove half of my images as well as yours for bad keywords, not like those vectors of yours which were clearly a mistake , but for example "waiting" thats used in your Cinema billboard image etc , or the fact that I cant use "background" or "abstract"on my grunge textures etc.

There is a fact that there are some people that are trying to manipulate that " easy on trigger reviews" and complain without valid ground , there is just a matter what you find acceptable and what I find acceptable , but I dont think there is a reason for clapping someone If you dont agree with him on a doubtful matter like that harp and number one is.


Anyway I went over the line too with posting in the way I did , and Im sorry , Im having few bad days generally so the best thing I can do is stay away from conversations cause I pick myself conflict easily.


Hope you understand what I was pointing at.


By the way , "just to feed your ego"  ;), thats one great portfolio you have




   

Well sorry sjlocke


yingyang0

Quote from: madelaide on November 11, 2008, 20:28
Quote from: sjlocke on November 11, 2008, 18:11
98% of the people complaining about iStock keywording turn out to be wrong.
I don't think the % is correct, it's probably much less.
You can make 60% of statistics say anything you want 90% of the time.


hali

#113
hey, my friend found out the fastest way to get images reviewed.
she answer a  forum that complain why it takes so long to get your images reviewed. and she made fun of IS.
result: every day an image is reviewed.
result also: every image is rejected with all the different excuses you all mentioned here.
woo hoo! now we all know how to get review quickly with IS.
don't thank me, thank my friend,  ;D ;D ;D

anaire

To all the Istock exclusives out here:
defending the obvious wrong, doesn't make it right.
At Istock, right now, reviewing times are almost 3 weeks.
That's wrong.
The keywords based rejection are ridiculous.
One of my images with a Christmas tree was rejected due to 'winter, holidays' not being relevant to the file.
I have never, not ever, spammed an image, and I will never do so. I respect the buyers too much to try such cheap alternatives.
However 'winter, holidays' not being relevant to a Christmas tree is a ridiculous idea.
Please resubmit?
And wait 3 more weeks?
Christmas done and dusted by then. Maybe next year... 

Sean Locke Photography

QuoteAt Istock, right now, reviewing times are almost 3 weeks.
That's wrong.

Why is that wrong?

QuoteOne of my images with a Christmas tree was rejected due to 'winter, holidays' not being relevant to the file.

I'm sure we'd love to empathize with you, but mentioning rejection issues without posting the image in question makes it really hard.  If your tree image is wrong in your eyes, you should post it in the keywording forum.  They are very responsive lately.

vonkara

Istock need more reviewers or to give them   

hali

#117
lol vonkara it's awesome. i like the green hulk muscle radioactive slime ... ;D ;D
but i don't get the baby and kenya  ??? ???

btw did you do this video? did you submit it to IS?  ;D ;D

madelaide

Quote from: anaire on November 18, 2008, 18:45
However 'winter, holidays' not being relevant to a Christmas tree is a ridiculous idea.

I agree with you about "holidays", if in the CV they have this meaning of festivities.  

Now, with "winter" I have to disagree, unless the image is really winter-related (snow, etc).  If it's just a christmas tree (pine or whatever), not a leafless one, without snow on it, then it's not "winter".  Christmas is in summer in the Southern Hemisphere, should we tag Christmas images with "summer" as well?

However, I think that, given the current long review times, it is unfair to reject an image for a couple of wrong keywords, especially when they are not obvious spams, but stretches.  It will only mean more time of the inspector crew to review them again later when resubmitted.

Regards,
Adelaide

hali

adelaide, and also by that time, it'll be too late for christmas.
it's unfair, i agree.
oh well, maybe next christmas , anaire... if you're still interested in IS  8)
oh no, to other religion and some other nationalities, christmas is in february.
so there's still time ! 8)

dirkr

Quote from: hali on November 18, 2008, 20:40
to other religion and some other nationalities, christmas is in february.

other religions? christmas?

I must have missed that lesson back in school   ::)

goldenangel

For some eastern orthodox churches, Christmas is in January. I haven't heard of the one in February. There's always Chinese New Year though :)

hali

Quote from: goldenangel on November 18, 2008, 21:33
For some eastern orthodox churches, Christmas is in January. I haven't heard of the one in February. There's always Chinese New Year though :)

oops,did i type that? i guess i did, lol .
i really meant culture instead of religion. and not in february but until february.
polish christmas does not end till february. so they might buy christmas images till february.
(hopefully, for anaire).

loop

Quote from: anaire on November 18, 2008, 18:45
To all the Istock exclusives out here:
defending the obvious wrong, doesn't make it right.
At Istock, right now, reviewing times are almost 3 weeks.
That's wrong. 

That's not wrong, and not rigth. It is the way it is in this moment. Uploading is free, and to upload or not is a free decision too.

vonkara

#124
I have to agree this time  (100% crop)

http://www.stockxpert.com/browse_image/view/26847441
Rejected for artifact and purple fringing

It have some... at 400%

They have taken too much of