Let's just limit it to your primary camera.

is the 5d mark II a prosumer camera?

I also have the 5D mark II and don't know what catagory it goes in.

Quote from: leaf on February 26, 2009, 21:39
is the 5d mark II a prosumer camera?

I'm using Nikon D3 witch is my only current camera

1ds, 5d and 5d mk2 are professional dslrs. 40d / 30d is prosumer. 350d-450d entry level.

Quote from: Xalanx on February 26, 2009, 22:11
1ds, 5d and 5d mk2 are professional dslrs. 40d / 30d is prosumer. 350d-450d entry level.

I hate to disagree with you Xalanx but I believe the 5D Mark II is a Prosumer camera.

I'm pretty sure it needs to be weather proof with the more rugged body to be considered pro. 

I'm not sure whose site this is, but I did a quick Google search online to double check before I posted.  This site has it listed in the Prosumer category

http://www.vistek.ca/marketing/procentre/canon/slrcameras.aspx?t=Prosumer+DSLRs

Mat

Mine's a black one.

What exactly is the point of this 'poll'? What are you hoping to 'discover' __  that some people use different cameras to others? Just a guess ... probably.

Quote from: Xalanx on February 26, 2009, 22:11
1ds, 5d and 5d mk2 are professional dslrs. 40d / 30d is prosumer. 350d-450d entry level.

Should have said that before I answered. I guessed that if I sell photographs professionally, to magazines and newspapers, with a 40D, it's a professional camera? When I put on all "L" lenses, say a 400mm f/2.8 Canon, is it professional or prosumer?  

Simple survey is going to turn into an interesting debate?

A 4mp 1D is a professional camera because it's weather sealed, but a full frame 21mp 5D Mk II isn't? Just can't wait for this to sort out.

I´d say that the result tells if it´s professional or not.

What´s inside Pro cameras today are inside prosumers tomorrow.

I wish it was like that with cars...

Where's Yuri... The medium format need one click

Mat, that link doesn't mean anything. I can put up a photo gear website and claim that 5d is the mother of all cameras and then i'll be a second ken rockwell (or chuck norris).

Canon splits cameras in the following categories:

Category 1: 1000d / 450d
Category 2: 40d / 50d
Category 3: 5d / 5d Mk2 (we're FF here)
Category 4: 1Ds.

There's also a category 3-2 or 3 and half what you preffer, for 1D Mk3.

The poll does not have sufficient ranks for all of the range. Therefore, the most appropiate for 5D is Professional Camera. A DSLR with full frame sensor is not a prosumer. That would be the 40d / 50d. Which no matter how many features they have will be always below 5D Mk1, image quality wise. Because they're APS-C. And that's the end of the story.

Features are nice, indeed. But I couldn't care less that my 5D doesn't have sensor cleaning and I need to use pecpads every month, while I'm getting brilliant, razor sharp details and superb colors out of it.

If there would be a "professional camera" that besides all competitors will also scratch your back and read your newspaper with angelina jolie's voice, - that will not put it in the next grade of this poll, to medium format stuff.

Using my  'original'  Rebel  for the micro...   5D mark II  for macro
using both for my free lance work.  =tom

Fair enough.  It's always been broken down for me that the difference between a "Pro" and "Prosumer" camera is the weather seal and the material used to make the frame of the camera.  My main body is a 1D Mark III which is considered a "pro" camera.  Who really gives a fiddlers fart though about the title.  Obviously the most important thing is the quality of the image and quite frankly, 5D's have been producing some of the highest quality images I've ever seen.

Mat

Quote from: Xalanx on February 26, 2009, 23:14
Mat, that link doesn't mean anything. I can put up a photo gear website and claim that 5d is the mother of all cameras and then i'll be a second ken rockwell (or chuck norris).

Canon splits cameras in the following categories:

Category 1: 1000d / 450d
Category 2: 40d / 50d
Category 3: 5d / 5d Mk2 (we're FF here)
Category 4: 1Ds.

There's also a category 3-2 or 3 and half what you preffer, for 1D Mk3.

The poll does not have sufficient ranks for all of the range. Therefore, the most appropiate for 5D is Professional Camera. A DSLR with full frame sensor is not a prosumer. That would be the 40d / 50d. Which no matter how many features they have will be always below 5D Mk1, image quality wise. Because they're APS-C. And that's the end of the story.

Features are nice, indeed. But I couldn't care less that my 5D doesn't have sensor cleaning and I need to use pecpads every month, while I'm getting brilliant, razor sharp details and superb colors out of it.

If there would be a "professional camera" that besides all competitors will also scratch your back and read your newspaper with angelina jolie's voice, - that will not put it in the next grade of this poll, to medium format stuff.

Canon Powershot A620.  Very few in my micro portfolio came from my Canon 400D.  So far.

Regards,
Adelaide

Quote from: MatHayward on February 26, 2009, 23:57My main body is a 1D Mark III which is considered a "pro" camera.

You have a great tool for action, wildlife and sports. 
10 fps... no comment.

Yep - the same with ranking Olympus or Nikon cameras - its D80/90 or Oly E-30 prosumer or entry level (plastic body)? Then E-3 is high-pro because it has probably best weather sealing, likely even better then 1D? Such categories are very disputable.

I would rather choose rank on megapixels (also pretty disputable) or sensor size - comapct - 4/3 - APS-C (both 1.5 and 1.6 crops) - FF and medium format or larger (we have Seitz and other insane cameras, dont we...).

Eg Im using Olympus E-410 though with high grade lenses - the body itself is very cheap however its much closer to D80 or 400/450D then to 1000D or D40/60 regarding its capabilities. And the Zuikos 14-54 and  12-60  are well above eg Canon 17-85 and likely even better then 24-105/4L. So what category? Entry level?  And while using older E-1 (high quality metal body with superb sealing) its Pro class? 

I am in doubts so I didn't vote

2/3 of my portfolio was made with Canon EOS 350D
1/3 of my portfolio is made with Canon EOS 40D which I currently use
I am just about to get a new Canon EOS 5D Mk II (hopefully this weekend)

They all are in different categories. Which one to take into account?

Nikon D300 for me

Quote from: MikLav on February 27, 2009, 10:19
I am in doubts so I didn't vote

2/3 of my portfolio was made with Canon EOS 350D
1/3 of my portfolio is made with Canon EOS 40D which I currently use
I am just about to get a new Canon EOS 5D Mk II (hopefully this weekend)

They all are in different categories. Which one to take into account?

If you're sure you'll get the 5D Mk 2 then vote professional dslr. That'll be your main camera in a few days. 

LE: congrats!! 

I use Canon 1Ds Mark III - 21 MP for my stock photography

5D II for me

5D2

D60

I don't know what mine is called. It is a Pentax K10D
Smiling jack

Canon power shot A640