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« on: January 16, 2014, 00:10 »
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I thought things were out of control over at SS, but some people have calculated that IS is accepting 400k images a week right now. For 3 years before 2013 they averaged 3 million new files. 2013 they accepted 9 million and at the rate they are going this year, they will add 20 million new files in 2014! Somehow I don't seem them double or tripling their sales to keep up with the influx of new files. Seeing how older images still reign supreme, I don't see the point of uploading new images until they figure out a way for new files to get downloads...

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358652&page=1


Ron

« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 02:22 »
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Thats more then any agency out there. I dont have to worry about it anymore though.

Looks like they are compensating the drop in sales with a massive influx of content. I think its masking the problem. Its like a dying star which bloats first just before it dies.

« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 02:29 »
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Alamy's up to 41 million now

Ron

« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 02:35 »
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I meant they are adding more per week then any agency.

Hmm, maybe not, alamy is adding 450k images per week. Look where it got them. They sell something like 0.87% of the library per year, or last year. Shutterstock sells 300% of their library this year.

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2014, 02:39 »
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Alamy's up to 41 million now
For this they call it *macro*stock

« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2014, 04:49 »
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I've called IS some nasty names recently and I will do again, but aside from an understandable blip in December 2013 my main collection sales are just about back to 2012 levels and growing month on month. Sorry about that.

Besides, I don't know how anyone can speculate on big numbers and how they might affect them personally since they don't mean anything without knowing the detail behind them. For all anyone knows they could have dumped in 150,000 images of poodles.

« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 04:57 »
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What would be interesting to know how many of these are editorial images. I can imagine a strong editorial stream from amateurs around the globe adding a a huge number of images. But because they also have a large editorial section at getty, this would enable them to pick the best files for their customers.

Most new files will be forgotten forever, but my new files get sales a lot faster now than before. I wouldn't even be surprised if with regular uploads I would be able to recover part of my lost exclusive income. Many of my older files are coming to life again, sometimes getting their first sale in years.

« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2014, 06:19 »
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Delete your portfolios!!!!

Let's show them how we can be cruel!

Destroy their offer for 0.00000001%!


 :P :P :P

« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2014, 06:26 »
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What would be interesting to know how many of these are editorial images.

91576 in the past six months. 14516 in the past month.

(See: more attributes in search)

ETA: 127426 total photos added in the last week of which 2886 were editorial only. Appx 2.3% I think.

ETA: I find these figures constantly change - presumably the databases is continually re-indexing, or something - so this is only a snapshot.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2014, 06:46 by bunhill »

« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2014, 07:13 »
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Ok, so we know it is not the editorials that are oversupplied :) Thanks for the info.

The high volume overall does surprise me. If I look around me most images I recognize come from stock factories or artists I know. But I guess there must be many more smaller teams that shoot high volume or real amateurs that keep uploading everything they shoot.

So these are images we don't really see in the market.

At the microstockgroup the number of people registered is quite steady.

ShadySue

« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2014, 09:30 »
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Most new files will be forgotten forever, but my new files get sales a lot faster now than before. I wouldn't even be surprised if with regular uploads I would be able to recover part of my lost exclusive income. Many of my older files are coming to life again, sometimes getting their first sale in years.

Wow, my new uploads don't get views, and other exlcusives are saying the same.
I know your work is high commercial value, but price may come into it too.

« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2014, 09:34 »
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It is only the price Sue. i am sure many customers look at the cheap stuff first.

Goofy

« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 10:07 »
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"Delete your portfolios!!!!

Let's show them how we can be cruel!"

Been there, done that and nothing happen! This is like getting a virus infection- the doctor cannot give you anything but only tells you that it has to run its course until it is gone. In time companies will fade away...

« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 20:19 »
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Illustration is now accepting 999images per 24hrs. Used to be 999/168hrs. I'm not sure when this change happened but it can only be a mistake or to benefit some large clipart factory to push through their crapola in a timely manner.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2014, 20:24 by goober »

« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2014, 23:24 »
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I think that's what we are all up against. I think the days of a 1 person shop shooting stock and making decent money at it are over. It's hard to tell, but there must be teams of people working together pumping out huge volumes of crap. Unfortunately, they too will not make any money...

« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014, 22:41 »
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Now that is what I call crowdsourcing!!  I had no idea since I pretty much stopped uploading this past year and have not followed it at all.  No wonder my more recent uploads were getting very, very few views, potential sales not worth the time it took. Supply and demand at work.  Even at low reimbursement, they (all sites) are being overrun with contributors.  When I browse the collection, I in fact do not see a drop off in quality as much as I would expect, especially when compared to some of out "quality" stuff from 2006 and before that sold like crazy because it was all that was available. 
If I ran the store, I would aim for 100s of millions of files available and make sure I had a great search engine for buyers.  Supply grossly outpaces demand if these numbers are correct, and all contributors piece of the pie gets smaller every minute.

« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2014, 23:24 »
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There is of course a strategy behind, and it would be best if we figured it out.

They must want to get away from their dependancy on the exclusives (it is a billateral affair)
They must want to draw in the image factories and have them park their ports there. I dont think they care about the bulk of average images, except for the sheer numbers.
They must want to delute the RPI to a degree so that contributors leave their ports unattented.
They must want to do something with this huge mass of unattented content.
What would that be?


 

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