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ShadySue

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« Reply #675 on: January 09, 2012, 11:17 »
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Or maybe there's even a third rating that Lobo uses to hit people he doesn't like on the forums?
I wouldn't be at all surprised, looking at some of my best match positioning.  :( >:(


CarlssonInc

« Reply #676 on: January 09, 2012, 11:23 »
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^^ I was not talking about the user ratings of 1-5, these are useless in the best match.
I was talking about an INTERNAL inspector rating hidden from users. A way for them to help better photos "stand out" and worse ones to get buried.

^^^ Yet another absurd conspiracy theory entirely without foundation. Or maybe there's even a third rating that Lobo uses to hit people he doesn't like on the forums? Maybe aliens are really controlling things from the Planet Zogg?


Well, I know it sounds ridiculous but it really wouldnt surprise me the slightest,  if members like yourself, me, Lisa, Baldrick, etc, etc, are so much in their bad books that we are recieving the special treatment of:  as few sales as possible.
This is easy to orchestrate. Would be an interesting thing to see what the, fair trading dept would say about this. I would not put anything past these guys. Rock bottom.

You need to see the men in white coats Christian - paranoia of this level ain't healthy! :)

lisafx

« Reply #677 on: January 09, 2012, 13:44 »
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Nah! I hear Lisa's had it with her remodel (didn't she say something about remodel from hell?) - he's driving the dozer at the house and she'll have a great new series of images. Not many people will have those :)

ROFL!!  What a great idea!  We'll have to borrow that bulldozer again ;D

lagereek

« Reply #678 on: January 09, 2012, 14:40 »
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^^ I was not talking about the user ratings of 1-5, these are useless in the best match.
I was talking about an INTERNAL inspector rating hidden from users. A way for them to help better photos "stand out" and worse ones to get buried.

^^^ Yet another absurd conspiracy theory entirely without foundation. Or maybe there's even a third rating that Lobo uses to hit people he doesn't like on the forums? Maybe aliens are really controlling things from the Planet Zogg?


Well, Im joking ofcourse, but think about it, its possible though, isnt it?


Well, I know it sounds ridiculous but it really wouldnt surprise me the slightest,  if members like yourself, me, Lisa, Baldrick, etc, etc, are so much in their bad books that we are recieving the special treatment of:  as few sales as possible.
This is easy to orchestrate. Would be an interesting thing to see what the, fair trading dept would say about this. I would not put anything past these guys. Rock bottom.

You need to see the men in white coats Christian - paranoia of this level ain't healthy! :)

CarlssonInc

« Reply #679 on: January 09, 2012, 16:20 »
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^^ I was not talking about the user ratings of 1-5, these are useless in the best match.
I was talking about an INTERNAL inspector rating hidden from users. A way for them to help better photos "stand out" and worse ones to get buried.

^^^ Yet another absurd conspiracy theory entirely without foundation. Or maybe there's even a third rating that Lobo uses to hit people he doesn't like on the forums? Maybe aliens are really controlling things from the Planet Zogg?


Well, Im joking ofcourse, but think about it, its possible though, isnt it?


Well, I know it sounds ridiculous but it really wouldnt surprise me the slightest,  if members like yourself, me, Lisa, Baldrick, etc, etc, are so much in their bad books that we are recieving the special treatment of:  as few sales as possible.
This is easy to orchestrate. Would be an interesting thing to see what the, fair trading dept would say about this. I would not put anything past these guys. Rock bottom.

You need to see the men in white coats Christian - paranoia of this level ain't healthy! :)

Anything is possible, but one would think they have plenty of other pressing more important issues to worry about then orchestrating personal vendettas against certain contributors - let's hope so at least.

Batman

« Reply #680 on: January 09, 2012, 23:32 »
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Are you sure you/they are not talking about the "normal" rating. Quite often inspectors give an "initial rating" which logically would be taken into consideration of the best match. For example they see something that they think is exceptional and give it an initial rating of 5 which then in turn gives it a boost in the best match. Rating by fellow contributors though it has been stated has no bearing on the best match.

If it has no bearing why do they have it?

CarlssonInc

« Reply #681 on: January 10, 2012, 00:37 »
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Are you sure you/they are not talking about the "normal" rating. Quite often inspectors give an "initial rating" which logically would be taken into consideration of the best match. For example they see something that they think is exceptional and give it an initial rating of 5 which then in turn gives it a boost in the best match. Rating by fellow contributors though it has been stated has no bearing on the best match.

If it has no bearing why do they have it?

That is what I'm saying. Initial rating by inspectors MIGHT have an effect on the best match search. Ratings by fellow contributors used to have an effect, but was misused and has many times clearly been stated to no longer have any effect.

« Reply #682 on: January 10, 2012, 00:46 »
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so all exclusive files get rated highly and indies not? lol

RacePhoto

« Reply #683 on: January 10, 2012, 03:01 »
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so all exclusive files get rated highly and indies not? lol

I remember sending in a batch of pictures and they were all pretty much produced by identical methods and similar content, with the subject being different. The red one got a 5 the rest nothing. So I guess the reviewer likes red? LOL  :D

I have 18 images with a 5 rating and only one rating. Probably came with the review. Three of them have sold (3 or 4 times each) and for those with slow math... 15 have 0 downloads! Yes that makes me wonder why it's there and if it does anything?

wut

« Reply #684 on: January 10, 2012, 04:15 »
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I remember getting an initial 5 back in the summer, the file got sold 3 times in a week or so, but never since then (2 XXXL DLs). Makes me think it could have something to do with the rating, but then again, this photo sales a few times a week on FT and from time to time on other sites (so it's not so unsellable, although it's not stocky at all, it was more a part of a personal project)

ShadySue

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« Reply #685 on: January 10, 2012, 04:40 »
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Are you sure you/they are not talking about the "normal" rating. Quite often inspectors give an "initial rating" which logically would be taken into consideration of the best match. For example they see something that they think is exceptional and give it an initial rating of 5 which then in turn gives it a boost in the best match. Rating by fellow contributors though it has been stated has no bearing on the best match.

If it has no bearing why do they have it?

Just a 'fun feature'/hangover from the olden days, when it used to factor into best match until the Ratings Gangs went into action.

wut

« Reply #686 on: January 10, 2012, 05:13 »
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So, any news on best match? I know some of you perform daily searches and keep daily records. Any improvement at all from the last minor improvement last week?

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #687 on: January 10, 2012, 05:36 »
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So, any news on best match? I know some of you perform daily searches and keep daily records. Any improvement at all from the last minor improvement last week?
It's changing all the time. Just tweaks this week.
Of course, an 'improvement' for you or me would be bad news for someone else.
The same parameters aren't used for every term. Some are biassing new files, some big sellers, some presumably something like DL/M over the past year, and some I can't work out (random?).

I noticed something weird last night. I did a search on one term and noted the result.
Then I added in another word in the left column search.
Now, you might think that what would happen is that that best match would change, and all those with both keywords would shuffle up to fill the spaces.
Not at all - the search changed completely.
(Which is, theoretically, what's supposed to happen, as BM2 shuffles your keywords according to their uses in search. But in this case, the inserted 0 sales images messed up what had been a 'top 100 almost clean' search. But otherwise BM2 seems to have been ditched.)
[and if anyone's remotely interested, my first term was 'commercial kitchen' and my added term was 'nobody'. One of my regular searches - my kitchen, with almost 600 dls is down at 105 for 'commercial kitchen' (clean search apart from 2), but up to about 58 for both terms with a lot of isolated food or isolated chopping boards above it.  >:(]

If you mean are indies better represented: another of my best sellers is below several indie files with 0-10 sales, not all particularly new- indeed one older than mine.

Disclaimer: all of the above were last night.
Today, for 'telesales', the top two are indie, and 6 out of the top 20 are indie.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2012, 05:40 by ShadySue »

« Reply #688 on: January 10, 2012, 05:46 »
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So, any news on best match? I know some of you perform daily searches and keep daily records. Any improvement at all from the last minor improvement last week?

Good news. There does appear to have been a change to the down-grading of non-exclusive images. One of my standard searches which last week produced only 13 non-ex images within the first 200 results now has 63 non-ex images, most of them at the bottom of the page though.

My sales at IS for the first 8 days of January are barely more than half what they were last year so hopefully this will help. Istock have now dropped to 3rd place in my earnings and so far just 18% of the total.

wut

« Reply #689 on: January 10, 2012, 07:10 »
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Tnx for the info, both of you. I'll wait for a little while though, to see if things settle this way. Then I'll think about uploading again, I have 100 files ready (and already uploaded to all the other sites).

« Reply #690 on: January 10, 2012, 08:40 »
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My sales at IS for the first 8 days of January are barely more than half what they were last year
so hopefully this will help. Istock have now dropped to 3rd place in my earnings and so far just 18% of the total.

Likewise. Or to be more exact, mine are a couple short of being half of last year's. The tally is so low that it's down at the level of random noise now.

wut

« Reply #691 on: January 10, 2012, 11:07 »
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I had a good Monday, like usually. Then I usually just see sales fading away until next Monday :s

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #692 on: January 10, 2012, 12:39 »
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sales are hitting normal levels, but they are older files, a weird mix....so IMO the best match is unfabulous right now

« Reply #693 on: January 10, 2012, 15:06 »
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Things are definitely still off here.  It needs to pick up soon.

« Reply #694 on: January 10, 2012, 15:25 »
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my sales are 50% lower than this time last year.

« Reply #695 on: January 10, 2012, 15:39 »
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I certainly hope it picks up again. At the end of every quarter and of course every new year are deadlines when budgets are closed or opened and customers might decide to go elsewhere.

With all the bugs and high prices - how much incentive is there for customers to come to istock?

Has anything new and exciting been implemented for the customers lately?

« Reply #696 on: January 10, 2012, 16:06 »
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With all the bugs and high prices - how much incentive is there for customers to come to istock?

I've found for several weeks now that the search does not function properly at Istock. I can search using one term but then cannot cannot add further words (to the box on the LHS). So I can search on 'businessman' for example and get 186K results but if I want to narrow the results, say with 'reading' ... absolutely nothing happens. It's the same on both my newish laptop running Win7 and my PC running XP Pro. I use Explorer 8 as my browser. Anyone else finding this?

« Reply #697 on: January 10, 2012, 16:11 »
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I noticed the same thing on my MacBook Pro using the latest edition of Firefox, Gostwyck.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2012, 17:21 by Karimala »

« Reply #698 on: January 10, 2012, 17:17 »
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I saw someone asking about this on facebook, but many others commented that istock works fine for them. It works for me. Obviously another useless bug :(

« Reply #699 on: January 10, 2012, 17:19 »
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With all the bugs and high prices - how much incentive is there for customers to come to istock?

I've found for several weeks now that the search does not function properly at Istock. I can search using one term but then cannot cannot add further words (to the box on the LHS). So I can search on 'businessman' for example and get 186K results but if I want to narrow the results, say with 'reading' ... absolutely nothing happens. It's the same on both my newish laptop running Win7 and my PC running XP Pro. I use Explorer 8 as my browser. Anyone else finding this?

Chrome on a Mac works fine - I get from 166K photos to 4K photos if I narrow the businessman search. I think there were a bunch of bugs IS acknowledged in IE8 and said use IE9 as a workaround while they fix it. I took that to mean there was a minuscule chance of getting a fix (it was accompanied by lots of mumbling about why IE8 wasn't a good release...)


 

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