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Another Massive Best Match Shift

Started by gostwyck, December 21, 2011, 16:14

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CarlssonInc

Haven't analyzed the E+ in great detail, but my sense is that it is doing well. Out of the last 20 sales, 14 are E+. I'm all for higher prices...overall though things are down, but still hoping for a turnaround. Like that IS scrapped EPS, logos etc. and hopefully concentrate their efforts on existing avenues.

ShadySue

Quote from: Freedom on April 25, 2012, 04:49
Equus, I can't answer all your questions because I have never bothered to look for the answers myself. I can tell you what I know. First, I have a decent number of E+ images but don't use all my allocations. Second, my E+ images are somewhat unique and cannot not easily be duplicated. If I feel it can easily be duplicated, I leave it in the main collection.

I'm sure that's the right policy. Why would a buyer pay more for something they could get cheaper? For the same reason, I'd like to be able to nominate a proportion of my images as E-, i.e. equal with indie pricing.

Noodles

Quote from: ShadySue on April 25, 2012, 10:47
Quote from: Freedom on April 25, 2012, 04:49
Equus, I can't answer all your questions because I have never bothered to look for the answers myself. I can tell you what I know. First, I have a decent number of E+ images but don't use all my allocations. Second, my E+ images are somewhat unique and cannot not easily be duplicated. If I feel it can easily be duplicated, I leave it in the main collection.

I'm sure that's the right policy. Why would a buyer pay more for something they could get cheaper? For the same reason, I'd like to be able to nominate a proportion of my images as E-, i.e. equal with indie pricing.

I get your point but they do say "A bad salesman will always drop his price". Well Danny DiVito said it. :)

ShadySue

Quote from: Noodles on April 25, 2012, 11:28
Quote from: ShadySue on April 25, 2012, 10:47
Quote from: Freedom on April 25, 2012, 04:49
Equus, I can't answer all your questions because I have never bothered to look for the answers myself. I can tell you what I know. First, I have a decent number of E+ images but don't use all my allocations. Second, my E+ images are somewhat unique and cannot not easily be duplicated. If I feel it can easily be duplicated, I leave it in the main collection.

I'm sure that's the right policy. Why would a buyer pay more for something they could get cheaper? For the same reason, I'd like to be able to nominate a proportion of my images as E-, i.e. equal with indie pricing.

I get your point but they do say "A bad salesman will always drop his price". Well Danny DiVito said it. :)
Oh there is that, of course, but I would never have the idiocy to suggest that my photos are better than many indies', or that many of them are unique. Many buyers will suffice in any case, as I often do when buying things, as in X is better but Y is cheaper, so I'll buy Y, as I don't really NEED the advantages of X". Sometimes I do need the advantages of X. Sometimes I don't buy either, as I don't really like Y but won't pay the hike for X. The weird psychology of the buyer!

ShadySue

Quote from: Noodles on April 25, 2012, 11:28
Quote from: ShadySue on April 25, 2012, 10:47
Quote from: Freedom on April 25, 2012, 04:49
Equus, I can't answer all your questions because I have never bothered to look for the answers myself. I can tell you what I know. First, I have a decent number of E+ images but don't use all my allocations. Second, my E+ images are somewhat unique and cannot not easily be duplicated. If I feel it can easily be duplicated, I leave it in the main collection.

I'm sure that's the right policy. Why would a buyer pay more for something they could get cheaper? For the same reason, I'd like to be able to nominate a proportion of my images as E-, i.e. equal with indie pricing.

I get your point but they do say "A bad salesman will always drop his price". Well Danny DiVito said it. :)

Even a lot of top exclusives have a proportion of non-unique shots, even if just from their early days, basic isolations, whatever; these should still get sales from time to time, presumably, but are being penalised by the exclusive price hike.

Freedom

I wasn't trying to convince anyone. Just being an idiot to share my experience. Do what's best for you.

ShadySue

Quote from: Freedom on April 25, 2012, 12:15
I wasn't trying to convince anyone. Just being an idiot to share my experience. Do what's best for you.
Hey, I was agreeing 100% with you. Only 'promote' unique images.

loop

Quote from: lagereek on April 25, 2012, 07:15
Funny this?  all reports here by same forum members about increased revenues from E+, etc, etc, etc.  When I converse with some of my friends, Diamond members, one even a black Diamond member and I am talking about Exclusives here. Theyre all agreeing, revenues are down, way down! in spite of E+. The only thing going seems to be Vettas.

Well, I'm having a noticeable  increase in E+, but not in Vettas or Agency. Actually, Vetta and Agency are about 10% less than last year.

wut

WTH happened yesterday, my sales were down approx. 70% and I haven't got a single one yet today :o

thesentinel

Quote from: wut on April 27, 2012, 19:02
WTH happened yesterday, my sales were down approx. 70% and I haven't got a single one yet today :o

Very similar for me too :-(

lagereek

Quote from: loop on April 25, 2012, 13:25
Quote from: lagereek on April 25, 2012, 07:15
Funny this?  all reports here by same forum members about increased revenues from E+, etc, etc, etc.  When I converse with some of my friends, Diamond members, one even a black Diamond member and I am talking about Exclusives here. Theyre all agreeing, revenues are down, way down! in spite of E+. The only thing going seems to be Vettas.

Well, I'm having a noticeable  increase in E+, but not in Vettas or Agency. Actually, Vetta and Agency are about 10% less than last year.

Actually now when youre mentioning it,  my sales are up as well, not by much but still up and its all, P+,  so maybe something is going right after all.

wut

I'm not even getting half the sales I used to this week. Terrible! I'd say I'm at 40%. With DT going south, 123RF being pathetic since I stopped uploading there months ago, I can only rely on SS (and the sales numbers are record high, tons of subs and ODs, but no EL or SODs yet this month which worries me a bit) and FT, which not nearly a high enough performer for me. Although it's my #3 earner they still bring in less than 10% of my earnings

gostwyck

Quote from: wut on May 10, 2012, 11:55
I'm not even getting half the sales I used to this week. Terrible! I'd say I'm at 40%.

My daily sales so far this month are running at about 30-35% down compared to 2011 and fully 50% down when compared to May 2010. There does appear to have been another shift in the best match but if anything it has been in my favour. When I run standard searches in my niche subjects I'm pleasantly surprised how well my images are represented. Disappointed that it's not helping sales though.

lagereek

Quote from: gostwyck on May 10, 2012, 12:36
Quote from: wut on May 10, 2012, 11:55
I'm not even getting half the sales I used to this week. Terrible! I'd say I'm at 40%.

My daily sales so far this month are running at about 30-35% down compared to 2011 and fully 50% down when compared to May 2010. There does appear to have been another shift in the best match but if anything it has been in my favour. When I run standard searches in my niche subjects I'm pleasantly surprised how well my images are represented. Disappointed that it's not helping sales though.

Same here whatever change, its also running in my favour, not by much but still.

wut

Quote from: lagereek on May 10, 2012, 13:52
Quote from: gostwyck on May 10, 2012, 12:36
Quote from: wut on May 10, 2012, 11:55
I'm not even getting half the sales I used to this week. Terrible! I'd say I'm at 40%.

My daily sales so far this month are running at about 30-35% down compared to 2011 and fully 50% down when compared to May 2010. There does appear to have been another shift in the best match but if anything it has been in my favour. When I run standard searches in my niche subjects I'm pleasantly surprised how well my images are represented. Disappointed that it's not helping sales though.

Same here whatever change, its also running in my favour, not by much but still.

Oh bloody hell! Why am I always on the wrong side of the fence? best match is lake waves in the ocean, but those waves usually don't lift me, instead they're trying to drown my a$$ :o

lagereek

Check it out!  has FT, also changed their best match,  or am I imagining this.

wut

Quote from: lagereek on May 10, 2012, 13:57
Check it out!  has FT, also changed their best match,  or am I imagining this.

For the better? That being said, I've had 9 consecutive BMEs there. But that doesn't do me any good, because as I said, they don't even bring 10%, earnings no where near you'd expect for a #3 earner to be

wut

#1167
Well, it looks like I just have to complain. I just got 4 DLs, pretty decent :)

ETA: and another 5. I'm already into double digit sales in the middle of the day, which is great for me at IS. It looks like I just have to complain. If I keep on get 2-3/h I'll make up the loss for this week by the end of the day :)

kelby

yesterday and today even if is saturday seems that istock is dead.....i think that the last 2 days (and today) were been the worst in a long long time (years).....

and it is very very strange because on SS an FT i had a decent days....

just incredible

Freedom

Whenever IS is posting TS earnings, my main sales are always down.

Quote from: kelby on May 12, 2012, 20:32
yesterday and today even if is saturday seems that istock is dead.....i think that the last 2 days (and today) were been the worst in a long long time (years).....

and it is very very strange because on SS an FT i had a decent days....

just incredible

kelby

Quote from: Freedom on May 12, 2012, 21:30
Whenever IS is posting TS earnings, my main sales are always down.


what is the theory behind this ?

traveler1116

Quote from: kelby on May 13, 2012, 12:37
Quote from: Freedom on May 12, 2012, 21:30
Whenever IS is posting TS earnings, my main sales are always down.


what is the theory behind this ?
Aliens.

PaulieWalnuts

Quote from: kelby on May 13, 2012, 12:37
Quote from: Freedom on May 12, 2012, 21:30
Whenever IS is posting TS earnings, my main sales are always down.


what is the theory behind this ?

Crop circles?

RacePhoto

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on May 13, 2012, 16:22
Quote from: kelby on May 13, 2012, 12:37
Quote from: Freedom on May 12, 2012, 21:30
Whenever IS is posting TS earnings, my main sales are always down.


what is the theory behind this ?

Crop circles?

Climate change, the end of the World is Dec. (so why are we worried about the next ice age anyway?) and of course it's all part of an other worldly source.  ???

wut

Is today a "buy M sized image day"? Because I must have gotten 15 or so already today