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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: OLJensa on January 19, 2013, 14:03
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I had another thread with some other images for first submission, but I think that thread is pretty much dead so I start a new one, hope it's ok :)
Well, how about these 3 for first submission?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137172691/20120720_0015.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137172691/20120720_0015.jpg)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137172691/20120720_0070.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137172691/20120720_0070.jpg)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137172691/20121129_0048.jpg (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/137172691/20121129_0048.jpg)
Bring it on :)
Thanks a lot!!! Really! :)
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They are all good, but don´t you need also three different subject types?
You could take the athletic man and then maybe one shot on location (family at home, kids playing), one outdoor?
Mostly they seem to be looking for "authentic" daily life but with professional lighting etc...
But I don´t know what it is like these days, maybe 3 studio shots are enough.
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I have told you my opinion already (on the other thread)
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I have told you my opinion already (on the other thread)
Hi luissantos!
Yes and I am greatful for your suggestions, but I just felt that at least one of those Images had to many problems when viewed at 100%. Might go with the other one though!
Thanks! :)
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I have told you my opinion already (on the other thread)
Hi luissantos!
Yes and I am greatful for your suggestions, but I just felt that at least one of those Images had to many problems when viewed at 100%. Might go with the other one though!
Thanks! :)
I see! :) from these 3 I would drop the black one because of the very dramatic lighting, his hands, chest and arms are very dark, not saying I don't like it, its a nice picture but I am thinking of iStock ;D
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The logo/design on the shoes (image 1) can definitely be cause for rejection. Most stock companies are pretty strict about logo-type issues .. and with good reason.
Good luck :)
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The logo/design on the shoes (image 1) can definitely be cause for rejection. Most stock companies are pretty strict about logo-type issues .. and with good reason.
Good luck :)
believe that is a little too much, not saying I don't agree because I had a few myself BUT
http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&search_source=search_form&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&searchterm=shoes+isolated&search_group=&orient=&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&commercial_ok=&color=&show_color_wheel=1 (http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&search_source=search_form&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&searchterm=shoes+isolated&search_group=&orient=&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&commercial_ok=&color=&show_color_wheel=1)
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I have told you my opinion already (on the other thread)
Hi luissantos!
Yes and I am greatful for your suggestions, but I just felt that at least one of those Images had to many problems when viewed at 100%. Might go with the other one though!
Thanks! :)
I see! :) from these 3 I would drop the black one because of the very dramatic lighting, his hands, chest and arms are very dark, not saying I don't like it, its a nice picture but I am thinking of iStock ;D
Yes I had the feeling it might be a bit on the extreme side for stock, and especially for first three... Thanks!
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The logo/design on the shoes (image 1) can definitely be cause for rejection. Most stock companies are pretty strict about logo-type issues .. and with good reason.
Good luck :)
Yes there is always something isn't it!? ;) ;) ;)
Thanks for your input!
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The one of the woman doing the stomach crunches should pass. But the light on her knees is a bit hot. Also, make sure you don't have any blown out highlights on the soles of her shoes.
The other two I am not sure. The man doing the push up may be difficult since the lighting is more artistic mood lighting than commercial lighting.
The one of the pregnant woman is getting some light bounce off the background which is causing some haze on her leg and part of her stomach. Not sure if the inspector will have a problem with this, but if I noticed it then an inspector might as well.
Good luck...
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
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I have almost been on MSG for 2 years and every single day there is a negative string on iStock yet I still wanted to see if I could pass the most difficult test in the business! I failed 7 times but passed a few weeks ago. Will I submit images? Not sure? Do I hope that iStock wakes up and tries to take care of the damage that they have done- yes! There were the bread & butter for many artists and truly hope that they are the first ones that iStock takes care of if they wake up. Losing the 2nd best company is a major blow to anyone in this business (full time or part time)...
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
Absolutely!
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The logo/design on the shoes (image 1) can definitely be cause for rejection. Most stock companies are pretty strict about logo-type issues .. and with good reason.
Good luck :)
believe that is a little too much, not saying I don't agree because I had a few myself BUT
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&search_source=search_form&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&searchterm=shoes+isolated&search_group=&orient=&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&commercial_ok=&color=&show_color_wheel=1[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/cat.mhtml?lang=en&search_source=search_form&version=llv1&anyorall=all&safesearch=1&searchterm=shoes+isolated&search_group=&orient=&search_cat=&searchtermx=&photographer_name=&people_gender=&people_age=&people_ethnicity=&people_number=&commercial_ok=&color=&show_color_wheel=1[/url])
You missed this!
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123791&start=15 (http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123791&start=15) (Boots are restricted)
http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2385437&highlight=shoes#2385437 (http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2385437&highlight=shoes#2385437)
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
Absolutely!
I agreee!
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good catch on the footwear. What's next gloves, hats, scarfs...
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
I disagree with your reasoning. Its a business and if someone wants to join IS, they can do that, its a free world. She as a newbie to IS has not gone through the years of hardship at IS. She is just being friendly. What I dont understand is why would someone join a site, with the lowest royalty in the business and giving her images away for free.
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we name him a screw breaker.
Plain and simple
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
I disagree with your reasoning. Its a business and if someone wants to join IS, they can do that, its a free world. She as a newbie to IS has not gone through the years of hardship at IS. She is just being friendly. What I dont understand is why would someone join a site, with the lowest royalty in the business and giving her images away for free.
you disagree with the notion that we should all stand together?
then we are doomed.
I'm also a newbie but I can see the bigger picture, rather than just myself.
(and if you've looked, her profile does have an istock port, which i don't understand)
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
I disagree with your reasoning. Its a business and if someone wants to join IS, they can do that, its a free world. She as a newbie to IS has not gone through the years of hardship at IS. She is just being friendly. What I dont understand is why would someone join a site, with the lowest royalty in the business and giving her images away for free.
you disagree with the notion that we should all stand together?
then we are doomed.
I'm also a newbie but I can see the bigger picture, rather than just myself.
(and if you've looked, her profile does have an istock port, which i don't understand)
Interesting, but also she is a he.
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
I disagree with your reasoning. Its a business and if someone wants to join IS, they can do that, its a free world. She as a newbie to IS has not gone through the years of hardship at IS. She is just being friendly. What I dont understand is why would someone join a site, with the lowest royalty in the business and giving her images away for free.
you disagree with the notion that we should all stand together?
then we are doomed.
I'm also a newbie but I can see the bigger picture, rather than just myself.
(and if you've looked, her profile does have an istock port, which i don't understand)
No I do not disagree with that, but define the word ALL? Like I said, she is new to stock photography, she was just being friendly, she might not know about all the bad stuff IS is practicing, and there is no need to come down on her as you did in my honest opinion. I have already deleted my portfolio but I wont get angry if someone is asking for critique here. Why didnt you give out to the colleagues who were helping her here?
Lets not attack and single out people here in the forum.
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
I disagree with your reasoning. Its a business and if someone wants to join IS, they can do that, its a free world. She as a newbie to IS has not gone through the years of hardship at IS. She is just being friendly. What I dont understand is why would someone join a site, with the lowest royalty in the business and giving her images away for free.
you disagree with the notion that we should all stand together?
then we are doomed.
I'm also a newbie but I can see the bigger picture, rather than just myself.
(and if you've looked, her profile does have an istock port, which i don't understand)
Interesting, but also she is a he.
The avatar had me thinking otherwise
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Oh yes, I also have a profile there because I registered. But till today I am not approved. So, profile yes, images no.
PS The avatar got me totally as well. Should rethink your avatar OLJensa, or you are going to end up with an identity crisis. ;)
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yes, I saw that she was a he on his iStock portfolio page, but it made no sense to have a female avatar and be asking for first submission advice.
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you disagree with the notion that we should all stand together?
then we are doomed.
I'm also a newbie but I can see the bigger picture, rather than just myself.
(and if you've looked, her profile does have an istock port, which i don't understand)
1. I believe that everyone's right to make their own decision on this is even more important than that we should all stick together.
2. By your argument, we are all doomed, as the stats show that there are more files being ingested every day than are being deactivated, and it'll take a lot of deactivations on Feb 2nd to make up for those which are uploaded in the intervening period.
(I don't see any iStock port in the OP's profile.)
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
I think you should have better manners as well....
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seriously! could you have a little respect for what's going on right now? I've got a small port, I'm nobody, and I am outraged. you are being all smiley and cheerful whilst others are deleting their ports and along with it, their livelihoods. we won't make a difference if we don't band together. people like you are the prime reason for why unions (something I detest) are compulsory. I'm sorry, but I can't understand how you can be so insensitive to post this - IN TWO THREADS - at a time like this.
I think you should have better manners as well....
+1
Just that bit of "newbie friendliness" required which Leaf was talking about the other day... :-[
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I don’t know why you guys decided to jump on me, but I understand that you are angry and frustrated and feel it is ok to pound on a newbie at MSG and in the stock business. But remember I wasn’t the one who gave your Images away for free to Google or MS and whatever else they have done!
I hope you don’t mind me asking how you can possibly think you know anything about me, what I intend to do, what my goals are and how I feel about a “union”.
As I wrote in this thread:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/who-dun-it/msg292406/#msg292406 (http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/who-dun-it/msg292406/#msg292406)
You can se that I am all for a “union” and would be among the first to sign up, I even presented the idea that we should ask Yuri to be president to get enough impact.
You talk about respect, but you don’t even care to read my posts in the two threads you are referring to. In the other thread I wrote the following:
I set a goal for myself to be accepted at iStock, and I intend to pursue that goal. If/when I get in, I will evaluate if I should submit more images or not. Hopefully everything will work out for the best with iStock in the future and we can all be happy contributors again. :)
I thought that MSG was a friendly place where we help each other out and have a nice and polite tone against each other. But I guess I was wrong. You even come down on me for being “all smiley and cheerful”. Yes, that I am indeed because that is how I am against all human beings, but if that is something you have a problem with I ask you politely to not read any of my posts in the future, cause they to will also be “all smiley and cheerful”.
But I know haters will hate, and there is nothing I can say to change your mind, and you will probably come down on me for this post to.
Well, if your goal was to make me sad you succeeded. Really! Congratulations!
But if your goal was to make me to not submit my first three to iStock or post critique posts in the iS forum again you have failed, I will never ever give in for haters or bullies.
And about my Avatar, which is obviously something you have a problem with too, that is a forum standard Avatar of Cameron Diaz. I like Cameron Diaz. Cameron Diaz will stay.
I want to send a big thank you to all you guys that is friendly and helpful and has helped me big time in these threads. Even sent me PM:s with images that you succeeded to go to through the submission test with. Amazing. :) .
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Not to worry, the outback sometimes does that to a girl, but I am sure she will be back here soon, all rosy and smiley herself to come and apologize... ;)
About the avatar; Cameron Diaz you say? No wonder Poncke and I felt so attracted to you. Must say that was quite a letdown, but what the heck - your choice ;D
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I knew I was doing something wrong.
I should have found a copyright-free George Clooney avatar!
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I knew I was doing something wrong.
I should have found a copyright-free George Clooney avatar!
Liked to be harassed by other girls, are you? (hmmm)
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I defended the OP, and have nothing against the avatar. It just threw me off, thats all. Carry on
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I defended the OP, and have nothing against the avatar. It just threw me off, thats all. Carry on
I know Poncke! It wasn't meant for you! :)
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I defended the OP, and have nothing against the avatar. It just threw me off, thats all. Carry on
Me also just pulling your leg (and my own for that matter) about falling for the nice avatar ;)
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I do apologise, I meant no attack. I was just frustrated. Sorry.
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I do apologise, I meant no attack. I was just frustrated. Sorry.
Wow, I didnt think that I'd ever see the day when someone apologized in a forum! I am very glad you did and I think it is really generous of you! Youll get a heart from me! :)
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Friendly forum or not.
Apologies or not.
Union or not.
You are still a screw breaker.
At first you could be excused because you didnt know.
Now you know better, and try to turn things around as if "there is something wrong with the forum or certain persons".
There is not.
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Friendly forum or not.
Apologies or not.
Union or not.
You are still a screw breaker.
Why, if she passes the test her port will still be empty. Not breaking any screws.
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Dear Jens (OLJensa),
Welcome to iStockphoto the Internet's original member-generated image and design community.
Congratulations! The iStockphoto administrators have determined that your files are commercially and technically ready for iStockphoto.com. Please begin uploading at your convenience. There is currently a limit of 18 uploads per 168 hour period.
Now the question is... Now what... :)
But if he calls me a screw breaker again, I promise to upload everything I got ;) - Relax a bit my friend!
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Ja, Jens, we have better relax a bit.
I have seen your homepage and I can see you can photograph and that you can produce valuable content.
...And you should not give that content to istock, both for your own sake but also for others´sake.
I have been a contributor to istock since June 2007 and there is no end to how much they have annoyed me:
First the disgracefull commision of 20% then later on 16%. It is an insult.
Then all the lies and greed. Every oppertunity they had, every choice they had, always ended up in shady, half illegal, immoral and unetical "business" decisions that ONLY benifited istock. Always at the contributors cost.
istock is the Nigerian scam of stock agencies. They lie and they will do everything to press the last penny out of you.
They will even give your pictures away for free. That means free for everybody to use, and free of any payment to you. The will of course harvest an amount, that you will never hear about and they will spread your pictures in ways you cannot imagine.
For at time we contributors took a lot of beatings, because they actually earned us a bit of money.
But those days are over, they cannot earn money anymore, since bad Karma has spread.
And that is well deserved.
Basically istock is not interested in contributors as long as they have a "nice" ATA, so they can do fancy trades with your content.
I suggest you upload ONE picture to them, and have the pleasure of meeting the famous upload system, and see that the devil lies in the details.
Then delete it again, and come to reason and never work with them again.
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I do apologise, I meant no attack. I was just frustrated. Sorry.
Wow, I didnt think that I'd ever see the day when someone apologized in a forum! I am very glad you did and I think it is really generous of you! Youll get a heart from me! :)
well being pulled up for bad manners is mortifying, so of course I should apologise.
:)
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Now, anybody who does not understand why the agencies treat contributors as they do, read this thread. May be we all should shape up and become a little bit more professional.
Strike (removing images) never works, and if more established contributors try to tell newbies not to apply .......... I don't even want to finish this sentence.
Be so good that nobody can ignore you, make yourself needed, then they will come and pay you.
Somebody mentioned Walmart. Walmart became so big because they pay next to nothing for merchandise. Their buying power is so strong that they don't have too. Same happens in Micro right now. The only exception to get into Walmart is having an item they need and you are one who can deliver for less.
As a manufacturer, if you want your product displayed, they charge rent for shelf space, don't wanna go further into that, but micro stock has the same future. Only top notch photographers will be on display and for newbies and weak "Merchants" will be no room.
Enjoy the time as long as you can make money in this industry and raise the bar. Once everything is dialed in, max 2 more years (In my opinion) they will not accept new applications and you will have to have big connections to become part of it.
So, newbies, sign up NOW. Established contributors (many made a killing, especially the ones who do it since 2005) do not want new competition, which is ok and understandable, but for my part, I will not listen and will try to get a piece of the pie. That's what free market is all about. May the best win.
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disagreeing is fine, and expressing that view is fine but watch the tone please!
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Now, anybody who does not understand why the agencies treat contributors as they do, read this thread. May be we all should shape up and become a little bit more professional.
Strike (removing images) never works, and if more established contributors try to tell newbies not to apply .......... I don't even want to finish this sentence.
Be so good that nobody can ignore you, make yourself needed, then they will come and pay you.
Somebody mentioned Walmart. Walmart became so big because they pay next to nothing for merchandise. Their buying power is so strong that they don't have too. Same happens in Micro right now. The only exception to get into Walmart is having an item they need and you are one who can deliver for less.
As a manufacturer, if you want your product displayed, they charge rent for shelf space, don't wanna go further into that, but micro stock has the same future. Only top notch photographers will be on display and for newbies and weak "Merchants" will be no room.
Enjoy the time as long as you can make money in this industry and raise the bar. Once everything is dialed in, max 2 more years (In my opinion) they will not accept new applications and you will have to have big connections to become part of it.
So, newbies, sign up NOW. Established contributors (many made a killing, especially the ones who do it since 2005) do not want new competition, which is ok and understandable, but for my part, I will not listen and will try to get a piece of the pie. That's what free market is all about. May the best win.
Excuse me.
For me it is NOT about competition. Not at all.
Im deleting my pictures there.
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the current discussion, although an interesting topic, has very little to do with the original post and I can only see it getting nasty while I go to sleep.. so, I'll lock this topic now.