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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: nobody on September 20, 2018, 20:22

Title: August Numbers
Post by: nobody on September 20, 2018, 20:22
looks like iStock is reporting late for our August numbers. Hopefully within a few weeks they will have August done  :(

Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Rage on September 20, 2018, 22:33
I've been waiting for this as well. Seems they took a long weekend break
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: HughStoneIan on September 20, 2018, 22:38
Glad to see someone else thinks their numbers are late. I thought I got zero for the month. Wouldn't surprise me these days...
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Fruitcocktail on September 20, 2018, 23:24
Hoping for a good month. Hopefully they will be posted in a day or two. As of right now IS sales are down almost 50% from last year.

Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Chichikov on September 20, 2018, 23:36
Glad to see someone else thinks their numbers are late. I thought I got zero for the month. Wouldn't surprise me these days...
I think that I have sold so much that they need more time to calculate the total…
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Video-StockOrg on September 21, 2018, 01:00
They need more time to steal as much as they can from contributors...
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Artist on September 21, 2018, 02:23
Glad to see someone else thinks their numbers are late. I thought I got zero for the month. Wouldn't surprise me these days...
I think that I have sold so much that they need more time to calculate the total…

Or contributors earned none or so less that they are ashamed of publishing it.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Kasper Ravlo on September 21, 2018, 02:48
I just found this message from Brenda:

Quote
ROYALTY STATEMENTS

The payment processing team has let us know that we will likely see a delay in the publishing of your royalty statements, which normally would have published by the end of today, Seattle time (PST).

We don't expect this to impact royalty payments which are still scheduled, as usual, for the 25th of the month.

I'll keep you posted!

Best Kasper, qHero.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: microlock on September 21, 2018, 03:08
Is there any good answers to why they wont't let us know about a sale immediately like on the other stock sites? To me it feels like if they need money at the end of the month they will just adjust some statistics in their favour. Anyhow, I stopped uploading to them in January due to $0.30 video sales.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Johnski2015 on September 21, 2018, 03:08
Just amazed a coorporation such as Getty can't fufill its obligations to its contributors and fails to deliver OUR earnings at THEIR designated timeframes - afterall we are their bread and butter no?

And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?

* really!
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 21, 2018, 03:33
Just amazed a coorporation such as Getty can't fufill its obligations to its contributors and fails to deliver OUR earnings at THEIR designated timeframes - afterall we are their bread and butter no?

And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?

* really!
If you are truly  amazed then you haven't been paying attention.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 03:43
And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?
Your guess is wrong. It was announced on their own forum and on their two official Fb groups.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 03:45
Is there any good answers to why they wont't let us know about a sale immediately like on the other stock sites?
It's because we get a proportion of sub sales, not a flat rate, so the sub needs to expire before they know how many sales were made during the sub. As an exclusive that works out better for me, as my average sub sale nowadays is much higher than when it was a flat rate. (My tiny sales are from the Premium Access heist.)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Fairplay on September 21, 2018, 03:46
Just amazed a coorporation such as Getty can't fufill its obligations to its contributors and fails to deliver OUR earnings at THEIR designated timeframes - afterall we are their bread and butter no?

And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?

* really!


Maybe getting 85% is not enough for them to do things properly.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 21, 2018, 03:59
Is there any good answers to why they wont't let us know about a sale immediately like on the other stock sites?
It's because we get a proportion of sub sales, not a flat rate, so the sub needs to expire before they know how many sales were made during the sub. As an exclusive that works out better for me, as my average sub sale nowadays is much higher than when it was a flat rate.
They could report the fact that an image was sold though
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 04:18
Is there any good answers to why they wont't let us know about a sale immediately like on the other stock sites?
It's because we get a proportion of sub sales, not a flat rate, so the sub needs to expire before they know how many sales were made during the sub. As an exclusive that works out better for me, as my average sub sale nowadays is much higher than when it was a flat rate.
They could report the fact that an image was sold though
They could, and Content Statistics aren't the same, but you can at least see which files are garnering interest.

Don't put me into a position of seeming to defend them!!!  ::)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Mancubus on September 21, 2018, 04:21
Still waiting for the August statement ...  does anyone have it already?
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 04:24
Still waiting for the August statement ...  does anyone have it already?
No.. Check their forum.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Johnski2015 on September 21, 2018, 05:15
Just amazed a coorporation such as Getty can't fufill its obligations to its contributors and fails to deliver OUR earnings at THEIR designated timeframes - afterall we are their bread and butter no?

And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?

* really!
If you are truly  amazed then you haven't been paying attention.

Hmmm attention to the death of an industry or getty incompetence?
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Johnski2015 on September 21, 2018, 05:18
And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?
Your guess is wrong. It was announced on their own forum and on their two official Fb groups.

What this?

https://contributors.gettyimages.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10086&p=3#post108796

I see no official Getty annoucement? Maybe I missed the link you refer to Sue? I am not on Facebook - so maybe I have missed their official annoucement as to why our stats are not being displayed...
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 05:26
And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?
Your guess is wrong. It was announced on their own forum and on their two official Fb groups.

What this?

https://contributors.gettyimages.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10086&p=3#post108796

I see no official Getty annoucement? Maybe I missed the link you refer to Sue? I am not on Facebook - so maybe I have missed their official annoucement as to why our stats are not being displayed...
You've agreed when getting access to their forums not to quote from there, and possibly to link to there.
The official announcement is on the page before the page you linked to: Kelvin is the official forum moderator.

How bizarre - you complained about the announcement not being made instantaneously on social media, yet you're not on the social media they announced it on! (You are perfectly entitled not to be on Fb, but it doesn't put you in a strong position in this case!) For all I know, they may have announced it elsewhere (I don't check Twitter very often, and amn't on any other SM), but IMO if it's been officially announced on their own forum, they have announced it.

And BTW, their contract doesn't say they have to tell us by the 25th, it only says that
"5. Compensation
a. iStock agrees to pay you royalties (the “Royalties”) within 30 days after the end of each month in which the license or sale was made (except for royalties payable on subscription downloads, which shall be paid in the month following the end of the applicable subscription term, and when sales reporting is delayed, whether made by a Distribution Partner or otherwise, in which case payments will be made in the month following the date such sale is reported)

So they have broken our contract if they don't pay us by the 30th, but the rest isn't contractual.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 05:33
Just amazed a coorporation such as Getty can't fufill its obligations to its contributors and fails to deliver OUR earnings at THEIR designated timeframes - afterall we are their bread and butter no?

And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?

* really!
If you are truly  amazed then you haven't been paying attention.

Hmmm attention to the death of an industry or getty incompetence?
Getty incompetence. 'Twere ever thus (since they took over iS).
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 21, 2018, 05:51
Just amazed a coorporation such as Getty can't fufill its obligations to its contributors and fails to deliver OUR earnings at THEIR designated timeframes - afterall we are their bread and butter no?

And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?

* really!
If you are truly  amazed then you haven't been paying attention.

Hmmm attention to the death of an industry or getty incompetence?
Well both really
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Johnski2015 on September 21, 2018, 06:06
And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?
Your guess is wrong. It was announced on their own forum and on their two official Fb groups.

What this?

https://contributors.gettyimages.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10086&p=3#post108796

I see no official Getty annoucement? Maybe I missed the link you refer to Sue? I am not on Facebook - so maybe I have missed their official annoucement as to why our stats are not being displayed...
You've agreed when getting access to their forums not to quote from there, and possibly to link to there.
The official announcement is on the page before the page you linked to: Kelvin is the official forum moderator.

How bizarre - you complained about the announcement not being made instantaneously on social media, yet you're not on the social media they announced it on! (You are perfectly entitled not to be on Fb, but it doesn't put you in a strong position in this case!) For all I know, they may have announced it elsewhere (I don't check Twitter very often, and amn't on any other SM), but IMO if it's been officially announced on their own forum, they have announced it.

And BTW, their contract doesn't say they have to tell us by the 25th, it only says that
"5. Compensation
a. iStock agrees to pay you royalties (the “Royalties”) within 30 days after the end of each month in which the license or sale was made (except for royalties payable on subscription downloads, which shall be paid in the month following the end of the applicable subscription term, and when sales reporting is delayed, whether made by a Distribution Partner or otherwise, in which case payments will be made in the month following the date such sale is reported)

So they have broken our contract if they don't pay us by the 30th, but the rest isn't contractual.

Not sure I care about rules TBH - they will ban me if they want, I have no concern... anyone report if you want, it is beyond my concern...

The forum you mentioned doesn't give me any information...

I wasnt talking about payment, I was talking about statements... I thought statements had to be reported by the 20th?
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 06:11
And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?
Your guess is wrong. It was announced on their own forum and on their two official Fb groups.

What this?

https://contributors.gettyimages.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10086&p=3#post108796

I see no official Getty annoucement? Maybe I missed the link you refer to Sue? I am not on Facebook - so maybe I have missed their official annoucement as to why our stats are not being displayed...
You've agreed when getting access to their forums not to quote from there, and possibly to link to there.
The official announcement is on the page before the page you linked to: Kelvin is the official forum moderator.

How bizarre - you complained about the announcement not being made instantaneously on social media, yet you're not on the social media they announced it on! (You are perfectly entitled not to be on Fb, but it doesn't put you in a strong position in this case!) For all I know, they may have announced it elsewhere (I don't check Twitter very often, and amn't on any other SM), but IMO if it's been officially announced on their own forum, they have announced it.

And BTW, their contract doesn't say they have to tell us by the 25th, it only says that
"5. Compensation
a. iStock agrees to pay you royalties (the “Royalties”) within 30 days after the end of each month in which the license or sale was made (except for royalties payable on subscription downloads, which shall be paid in the month following the end of the applicable subscription term, and when sales reporting is delayed, whether made by a Distribution Partner or otherwise, in which case payments will be made in the month following the date such sale is reported)

So they have broken our contract if they don't pay us by the 30th, but the rest isn't contractual.

Not sure I care about rules TBH - they will ban me if they want, I have no concern... anyone report if you want, it is beyond my concern...
Nevertheless, it should be said in case someone else who does care has forgotten and quotes from there or links to there. I can't find a link to the forum agreement. Funny you care that little, yet here you are, caring enough to complaining with slight basis. I'm 'annoyed', but I checked the contract1.
Quote
The forum you mentioned doesn't give me any information...
There is an official announcement by Kelvin on the page before the page you linked to. I.e. you linked to page 3, the announcement is on page 2. And in fact, you directly linked to a statement by Kelvin with further information, so ...?

Quote
I wasnt talking about payment, I was talking about statements... I thought statements had to be reported by the 20th?
1You see if you can find it in the contract - I looked and I didn't see it.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Not Today on September 21, 2018, 06:26
You can see which files you've sold in August using the Getty contributor app... but you can't see the amount you've sold them for thou.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Johnski2015 on September 21, 2018, 06:27
And I guess no official comment (in this day of social media, communications i.e. instant) about what is happening?
Your guess is wrong. It was announced on their own forum and on their two official Fb groups.

What this?

https://contributors.gettyimages.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10086&p=3#post108796

I see no official Getty annoucement? Maybe I missed the link you refer to Sue? I am not on Facebook - so maybe I have missed their official annoucement as to why our stats are not being displayed...
You've agreed when getting access to their forums not to quote from there, and possibly to link to there.
The official announcement is on the page before the page you linked to: Kelvin is the official forum moderator.

How bizarre - you complained about the announcement not being made instantaneously on social media, yet you're not on the social media they announced it on! (You are perfectly entitled not to be on Fb, but it doesn't put you in a strong position in this case!) For all I know, they may have announced it elsewhere (I don't check Twitter very often, and amn't on any other SM), but IMO if it's been officially announced on their own forum, they have announced it.

And BTW, their contract doesn't say they have to tell us by the 25th, it only says that
"5. Compensation
a. iStock agrees to pay you royalties (the “Royalties”) within 30 days after the end of each month in which the license or sale was made (except for royalties payable on subscription downloads, which shall be paid in the month following the end of the applicable subscription term, and when sales reporting is delayed, whether made by a Distribution Partner or otherwise, in which case payments will be made in the month following the date such sale is reported)

So they have broken our contract if they don't pay us by the 30th, but the rest isn't contractual.

Not sure I care about rules TBH - they will ban me if they want, I have no concern... anyone report if you want, it is beyond my concern...
Nevertheless, it should be said in case someone else who does care has forgotten and quotes from there or links to there. I can't find a link to the forum agreement. Funny you care that little, yet here you are, caring enough to complaining with slight basis. I'm 'annoyed', but I checked the contract1.
Quote
The forum you mentioned doesn't give me any information...
There is an official announcement by Kelvin on the page before the page you linked to. I.e. you linked to page 3, the announcement is on page 2. And in fact, you directly linked to a statement by Kelvin with further information, so ...?

Quote
I wasnt talking about payment, I was talking about statements... I thought statements had to be reported by the 20th?
1You see if you can find it in the contract - I looked and I didn't see it.

OK thanks Sue
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 06:34
You can see which files you've sold in August using the Getty contributor app... but you can't see the amount you've sold them for thou.
Can you tell us where to find this app, please?
Someone mentioned it on here recently, but didn't follow up when asked.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: obj owl on September 21, 2018, 06:44
You can see which files you've sold in August using the Getty contributor app... but you can't see the amount you've sold them for thou.
Can you tell us where to find this app, please?
Someone mentioned it on here recently, but didn't follow up when asked.

Try this https://www.google.com/search?q=Getty+contributor+app&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=Getty+contributor+app&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Not Today on September 21, 2018, 06:49
Yes it's in the apple store for free, not sure about the other ones. :)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 06:56
It's here on Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.contributor&hl=en_GB (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.contributor&hl=en_GB)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 06:56
You can see which files you've sold in August using the Getty contributor app... but you can't see the amount you've sold them for thou.
Can you tell us where to find this app, please?
Someone mentioned it on here recently, but didn't follow up when asked.

Try this https://www.google.com/search?q=Getty+contributor+app&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=Getty+contributor+app&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)
Thanks.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: jonbull on September 21, 2018, 08:41
strangely th number of downloads is there but not the royalty. luckily the number seems 30 % higher than july...
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: nobody on September 21, 2018, 10:29
Heard they have a 'Glitch' in the accounting system. No ETA as to when it will be fixed... :(

Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: christiano on September 21, 2018, 10:32
You can see which files you've sold in August using the Getty contributor app... but you can't see the amount you've sold them for thou.
Can you tell us where to find this app, please?
Someone mentioned it on here recently, but didn't follow up when asked.

Try this https://www.google.com/search?q=Getty+contributor+app&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=Getty+contributor+app&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)
Thanks.

You do not need an app to see that, go to the esp site : My Performance/Content statistics/downloads and choose august...


Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Dumc on September 21, 2018, 11:30

You do not need an app to see that, go to the esp site : My Performance/Content statistics/downloads and choose august...

True, I only found out this downloads stats 10 minutes ago. August stats are already there. 1 download more than in July
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: christiano on September 21, 2018, 11:46

You do not need an app to see that, go to the esp site : My Performance/Content statistics/downloads and choose august...

True, I only found out this downloads stats 10 minutes ago. August stats are already there. 1 download more than in July

-20 for me ;-( but maybe my rdp will be better? i hope!).




Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Dumc on September 21, 2018, 11:54
I just got an email from getty for payment date and payment amount.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 12:10
I just got an email from getty for payment date and payment amount.
for iStock?
The only email I've had from  Getty today is the one requesting imagery of Christmas in India.  ::)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 12:12

You do not need an app to see that, go to the esp site : My Performance/Content statistics/downloads and choose august...

True, I only found out this downloads stats 10 minutes ago. August stats are already there. 1 download more than in July

-20 for me ;-( but maybe my rdp will be better? i hope!).

Like you say, it's all about the rdp. My two best download months this year also had the two lowest -by far! - rpds, so these monthly totals were relatively poor.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Dumc on September 21, 2018, 12:13
Yes and I also just get payment on my paypal account

Payment Number:

4370159

Payment Date:
21-Sep-2018
Payment Currency:
USD
Payment amount:

xxxx.xx
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: christiano on September 21, 2018, 12:18
I just got an email from getty for payment date and payment amount.
for iStock?
The only email I've had from  Getty today is the one requesting imagery of Christmas in India.  ::)

good to know, i have some pic of south india during christmas!!!  but i didn't receive this email, but one about chinese visiting  tokyo!!!
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 12:35
Just got the email - with 10% more sales than last month, a dreadful average rpd means my total is just under half of last month's total.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 21, 2018, 12:36
Yes and I also just get payment on my paypal account

Payment Number:

4370159

Payment Date:
21-Sep-2018
Payment Currency:
USD
Payment amount:

xxxx.xx
Isn't that for last month though?
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Dumc on September 21, 2018, 12:41
No.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 12:43
Yes and I also just get payment on my paypal account

Payment Number:

4370159

Payment Date:
21-Sep-2018
Payment Currency:
USD
Payment amount:

xxxx.xx
Isn't that for last month though?

Well, inasmuch as it's a payment for sales in August, yes: but I presume that's not what you meant. My August payment has also just gone into PayPal, so it's early! :-)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 21, 2018, 13:32
Yes and I also just get payment on my paypal account

Payment Number:

4370159

Payment Date:
21-Sep-2018
Payment Currency:
USD
Payment amount:

xxxx.xx
Isn't that for last month though?

Well, inasmuch as it's a payment for sales in August, yes: but I presume that's not what you meant. My August payment has also just gone into PayPal, so it's early! :-)
Think I got confused !! Strange that some have been paid and others haven't had their reports!
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: christopherj on September 21, 2018, 13:35
Hey everyone,

So I see the numbers of photos on the site now.  I think a few of my sales are from getty images, 1 is from thinkstock, a couple are istock subs and credits.

Do these different buyers mean different rates of return?
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Fruitcocktail on September 21, 2018, 13:52
I've received my payment, but not the report. Based on my payment, the report is going to be a sad one when I do get it. I'm usually slow in August and September though... so no surprise.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: HughStoneIan on September 21, 2018, 13:57
Got paid today, at least. Istuck doesn't irritate me so much now.  ;D

Still seeing no stats on ESP.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 21, 2018, 13:59
Yes and I also just get payment on my paypal account

Payment Number:

4370159

Payment Date:
21-Sep-2018
Payment Currency:
USD
Payment amount:

xxxx.xx
Isn't that for last month though?

Well, inasmuch as it's a payment for sales in August, yes: but I presume that's not what you meant. My August payment has also just gone into PayPal, so it's early! :-)
Think I got confused !! Strange that some have been paid and others haven't had their reports!
No full stats.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Fruitcocktail on September 21, 2018, 14:00
Early payment is nice!
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 21, 2018, 14:04
Hey everyone,

So I see the numbers of photos on the site now.  I think a few of my sales are from getty images, 1 is from thinkstock, a couple are istock subs and credits.

Do these different buyers mean different rates of return?
Yes but in a pretty random way though I believe only the Getty ones give you a shot at a big sale.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Hildegarde on September 21, 2018, 15:06
I do not have August statement but I just got paid.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: The Mighty Jungle on September 21, 2018, 17:43
Received the announcement in my email, but DeepMeta still not updating.

One good thing this month, a number of recently uploaded images sold and they are different subject matter from my usual. That's encouraging me to keep on truckin'...
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: nobody on September 21, 2018, 20:50
Received the announcement in my email, but DeepMeta still not updating.

One good thing this month, a number of recently uploaded images sold and they are different subject matter from my usual. That's encouraging me to keep on truckin'...

Good attitude!
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on September 22, 2018, 04:18
Received the announcement in my email, but DeepMeta still not updating.

One good thing this month, a number of recently uploaded images sold and they are different subject matter from my usual. That's encouraging me to keep on truckin'...

Good attitude!

Whether it is a good attitude or just being played for a fool rather depends on what the return on effort was.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: The Mighty Jungle on September 22, 2018, 09:52
Received the announcement in my email, but DeepMeta still not updating.

One good thing this month, a number of recently uploaded images sold and they are different subject matter from my usual. That's encouraging me to keep on truckin'...

Good attitude!

Whether it is a good attitude or just being played for a fool rather depends on what the return on effort was.

Well...over the years, istockphoto has paid for my camera equipment, the high end laptop I bought 2 months ago, my camper, and all of my vacations. Best of all, because of istockphoto, I've developed skills in photography, Photoshop, Lightroom, had adventures and gone to places I never would have gone without looking for that next photoshoot location. It has been a great ride.

Somehow, I just don't feel like a fool.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: christopherj on September 22, 2018, 10:04
Any sense when the royalty info will be out?  Still can't access it!
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: nobody on September 22, 2018, 11:12
Received the announcement in my email, but DeepMeta still not updating.

One good thing this month, a number of recently uploaded images sold and they are different subject matter from my usual. That's encouraging me to keep on truckin'...

Good attitude!

Whether it is a good attitude or just being played for a fool rather depends on what the return on effort was.

Plus from me  :)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Dumc on September 22, 2018, 12:36
When Will the stats come out already. From the number of downloads and earnings I had a big sale, I'm really curious what image that was.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on September 22, 2018, 14:07

Well...over the years, istockphoto has paid for my camera equipment, the high end laptop I bought 2 months ago, my camper, and all of my vacations. Best of all, because of istockphoto, I've developed skills in photography, Photoshop, Lightroom, had adventures and gone to places I never would have gone without looking for that next photoshoot location. It has been a great ride.

Somehow, I just don't feel like a fool.

Oh, it was much the same for me. But that was the past. Today my earnings are down something like 90% on the heyday and with all the minuscule value sales I don't see the point any longer. The fact they've made it incredibly hard to track what has happened sales-wise (even if it's possible at all) doesn't give me any confidence at all.
Of course, if you are an exclusive your situation might be different.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Newsfocus1 on September 22, 2018, 14:25
Any sense when the royalty info will be out?  Still can't access it!

Don't expect anything before Monday. None of these 24 hour, Seven days a week hi-tech companies seem to do anything much at the Weekend other than to run on auto pilot. Today Is 24?
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 22, 2018, 19:12

Well...over the years, istockphoto has paid for my camera equipment, the high end laptop I bought 2 months ago, my camper, and all of my vacations. Best of all, because of istockphoto, I've developed skills in photography, Photoshop, Lightroom, had adventures and gone to places I never would have gone without looking for that next photoshoot location. It has been a great ride.

Somehow, I just don't feel like a fool.

Oh, it was much the same for me. But that was the past. Today my earnings are down something like 90% on the heyday and with all the minuscule value sales I don't see the point any longer. The fact they've made it incredibly hard to track what has happened sales-wise (even if it's possible at all) doesn't give me any confidence at all.
Of course, if you are an exclusive your situation might be different.
I read that new files weren't seeing the light of day, for over a year. Then they said they'd fixed it, but it seemed that new indie files were being seen, but not new exclusive files. Not that I'm uploading, but I don't think things are great for most exclusives either. Those who are still reporting decent sales mostly have significant expenses - only decent profit is sustainable - or sensible.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: derek on September 23, 2018, 01:24

Well...over the years, istockphoto has paid for my camera equipment, the high end laptop I bought 2 months ago, my camper, and all of my vacations. Best of all, because of istockphoto, I've developed skills in photography, Photoshop, Lightroom, had adventures and gone to places I never would have gone without looking for that next photoshoot location. It has been a great ride.

Somehow, I just don't feel like a fool.

Oh, it was much the same for me. But that was the past. Today my earnings are down something like 90% on the heyday and with all the minuscule value sales I don't see the point any longer. The fact they've made it incredibly hard to track what has happened sales-wise (even if it's possible at all) doesn't give me any confidence at all.
Of course, if you are an exclusive your situation might be different.

No consolation Simon but there are probably thousands of " old" members seeing the same thing. Many have given up! I just let my port hang in there.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: dpimborough on September 23, 2018, 02:03
I deleted my port March last year I'm not willing to support an outfit like that.

However every month I still get a 1 cent payout  ::)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 23, 2018, 02:24
I deleted my port March last year I'm not willing to support an outfit like that.

However every month I still get a 1 cent payout  ::)
I reckon they are trying to tempt you back ;-).
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Rage on September 23, 2018, 04:06
With a cent? Thats what most of us get
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: jonbull on September 24, 2018, 09:11
by the way was browsing christmas photos collection in isotck and found this portfolio....

https://www.istockphoto.com/portfolio/morganvaleks?mediatype=photography (https://www.istockphoto.com/portfolio/morganvaleks?mediatype=photography)

everything uploaded from 8 to 18 august...5000 image   of christmas....and i cannot browse more bu suspect this portfolio has something really strange going on, and i suspect is not the last and biggest...how can we work seriously in   this environment?
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 24, 2018, 09:23
by the way was browsing christmas photos collection in isotck and found this portfolio....

https://www.istockphoto.com/portfolio/morganvaleks?mediatype=photography (https://www.istockphoto.com/portfolio/morganvaleks?mediatype=photography)

everything uploaded from 8 to 18 august...5000 image   of christmas....and i cannot browse more bu suspect this portfolio has something really strange going on, and i suspect is not the last and biggest...how can we work seriously in   this environment?

I reverse-searched on a few random images and didn't find anything untoward. They're also on SS: https://www.shutterstock.com/g/valekstudio (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/valekstudio)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: jonbull on September 24, 2018, 09:27
by the way was browsing christmas photos collection in isotck and found this portfolio....

https://www.istockphoto.com/portfolio/morganvaleks?mediatype=photography (https://www.istockphoto.com/portfolio/morganvaleks?mediatype=photography)

everything uploaded from 8 to 18 august...5000 image   of christmas....and i cannot browse more bu suspect this portfolio has something really strange going on, and i suspect is not the last and biggest...how can we work seriously in   this environment?

I reverse-searched on a few random images and didn't find anything untoward. They're also on SS: https://www.shutterstock.com/g/valekstudio (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/valekstudio)

well they are another house of production from ukraine or russia...even if they say spain...i don't understand why every russian or ukraine put western country...probably they pay many people to produce stuff  and uploaded in bulk. anyway 9000 christmas copycat photos, i repeat how can we work in this environment.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on September 24, 2018, 09:42
well they are another house of production from ukraine or russia...even if they say spain...i don't understand why every russian or ukraine put western country...probably they pay many people to produce stuff  and uploaded in bulk.

I don't know if that is true, but if it is then the reason would probably be to escape the 30% tax on US earnings. Russia/Ukraine won't have a tax treaty with the US, EU countries do.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Dumc on September 24, 2018, 11:13
When do we get to see stats?
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: jonbull on September 24, 2018, 11:23
well they are another house of production from ukraine or russia...even if they say spain...i don't understand why every russian or ukraine put western country...probably they pay many people to produce stuff  and uploaded in bulk.

I don't know if that is true, but if it is then the reason would probably be to escape the 30% tax on US earnings. Russia/Ukraine won't have a tax treaty with the US, EU countries do.

i don't know if they can...they need to provide a document...i thin they just put to impress customer...they fear probably an antirussian sentiment...
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: estike on September 24, 2018, 14:58
Statement should be soon available: "Data load in progress - Statement data is currently not available because we are importing new statement data. Please check back later."
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 24, 2018, 16:03
In now, FWIW.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: christopherj on September 24, 2018, 16:35
I made on average 55 cents per photo sale, much more than shutterstock.  Is this common?
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on September 24, 2018, 16:42
Hmm. As usual the colour codings for Canada, the US, Brazil, Colombia and Argentina are almost identical. As are colours for the UK, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, Switzerland  and Italy. The only one that seems absolutely unambiguous is "other".... no, I tell a lie, Qatar has it's own special green. So what sold where remains a mystery.

Oh, no! I tell a lie, a "mousover" on the pie chart is more informative.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 24, 2018, 16:44
Hmm. As usual the colour codings for Canada, the US, Brazil, Colombia and Argentina are almost identical. As are colours for the UK, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, Switzerland  and Italy. The only one that seems absolutely unambiguous is "other".... no, I tell a lie, Qatar has it's own special green. So what sold where remains a mystery.
If you hover over the colour segment, you get that info in a popup.
For some reason, this month I have a lot of German sales!
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on September 24, 2018, 16:45
Hmm. As usual the colour codings for Canada, the US, Brazil, Colombia and Argentina are almost identical. As are colours for the UK, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, Switzerland  and Italy. The only one that seems absolutely unambiguous is "other".... no, I tell a lie, Qatar has it's own special green. So what sold where remains a mystery.
If you hover over the colour segment, you get that info in a popup.
For some reason, this month I have a lot of German sales!
You just beat me to it, Sue. Thanks, anyway.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on September 24, 2018, 18:06
...the reason would probably be to escape the 30% tax on US earnings. Russia/Ukraine won't have a tax treaty with the US, EU countries do.

Did you just make that up?! The withholding rate for Spain is 5%... the withholding rate for Russia is 0%.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 24, 2018, 19:12
well they are another house of production from ukraine or russia...even if they say spain...i don't understand why every russian or ukraine put western country...probably they pay many people to produce stuff  and uploaded in bulk.

I don't know if that is true, but if it is then the reason would probably be to escape the 30% tax on US earnings. Russia/Ukraine won't have a tax treaty with the US, EU countries do.

i don't know if they can...they need to provide a document...i thin they just put to impress customer...they fear probably an antirussian sentiment...
Or maybe they are not from Russia/Ukraine as you have zero evidence for that assertion.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 24, 2018, 19:29
My earnings have just appeared actually a very good month thats two in a row maybe a trend......
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on September 25, 2018, 01:53
...the reason would probably be to escape the 30% tax on US earnings. Russia/Ukraine won't have a tax treaty with the US, EU countries do.


Did you just make that up?! The withholding rate for Spain is 5%... the withholding rate for Russia is 0%.


Really? I'm surprised the Russians have got a more generous treaty with the US than the EU. I have seen people from former Warsaw Pact countries complaining about losing 30% and then having to pay local taxes on top. I assumed Russia was the same.
But,, yes, you're quite right, it's here http://taxsummaries.pwc.com/ID/United-States-Corporate-Withholding-taxes (http://taxsummaries.pwc.com/ID/United-States-Corporate-Withholding-taxes)
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Sebastian Radu on September 25, 2018, 02:05
No more words....  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: derek on September 25, 2018, 02:05
Russia!  I'm not at all surprised the US have a better treaty with Russia!...the EU right now is a shamble, insecure and crumbling with apart from Brexit some 9 countries voicing their wishes to get out of the union, latest one being Sweden and Italy!....all of them trying to get Trade-deals outside the EU!....chief Analyst from citicorp predicts a catastrophical future!

Anyway what sort of treaty have they got with China and India?



Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Gannet77 on September 25, 2018, 03:02
...the reason would probably be to escape the 30% tax on US earnings. Russia/Ukraine won't have a tax treaty with the US, EU countries do.


Did you just make that up?! The withholding rate for Spain is 5%... the withholding rate for Russia is 0%.


Really? I'm surprised the Russians have got a more generous treaty with the US than the EU. I have seen people from former Warsaw Pact countries complaining about losing 30% and then having to pay local taxes on top. I assumed Russia was the same.
But,, yes, you're quite right, it's here [url]http://taxsummaries.pwc.com/ID/United-States-Corporate-Withholding-taxes[/url] ([url]http://taxsummaries.pwc.com/ID/United-States-Corporate-Withholding-taxes[/url])


According to that chart, it's not actually a treaty with the EU - the rates are applied to individual countries, with some being zero and some not.

Which is good news for those of us in the UK, because it presumably won't suddenly become subject to a 30% rate after Brexit but will remain in the 0% bracket.

Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: rene on September 25, 2018, 03:30
My earnings have just appeared actually a very good month thats two in a row maybe a trend......
Not for me.
After few very good months WME! 
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Pauws99 on September 25, 2018, 05:27
I made on average 55 cents per photo sale, much more than shutterstock.  Is this common?
My overall RPI at SS is around 67c and last month IS was about the same as yours...IS can vary but I can't be bothered to trawl their stats to work out a longer average.
Title: sales
Post by: ThinkingLouder on September 26, 2018, 12:03
When they said, they needed time to calculate the total sales of each month....(years ago), it was supposed to have the total amount in based of all the calculations (stock sales)...now we have the total amount of august...but not the calculations (stock sales)!!!

So How they reached this total amount without the individual stock sales calculations...(good question!!)

Don't make me think that they cook the stock sales numbers after the total amount they want to pay us each month?
 ::)
Title: Re: sales
Post by: ShadySue on September 26, 2018, 12:18
When they said, they needed time to calculate the total sales of each month....(years ago), it was supposed to have the total amount in based of all the calculations (stock sales)...now we have the total amount of august...but not the calculations (stock sales)!!!
The stats came in on Monday, if you haven't got yours, you'll need to take out a support ticket.

Your questions about how we can trust them isn't invalid, but it applies to all of the sites, who could be pulling the wool over our eyes.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on September 26, 2018, 21:14
Worst month since 2009.  Those 4-cent sales really just don't cut it.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Noedelhap on September 28, 2018, 11:09
I made a whopping $11 dollars in August. That's almost as much as my first month in 2010. Those years of hard work really paid off, back to square one!
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: Rage on September 29, 2018, 12:10
He he, same here, and with stock submitter going off in not sure how ill add more pics to this agency. Guess the gravy train ride is done
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: davidbautista on September 29, 2018, 15:04
It's funny I sold the same picture twice. It was 0.01+0.01 cents.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 29, 2018, 16:00
It's funny I sold the same picture twice. It was 0.01+0.01 cents.
Two people saw it in the bizarre Connect pay per view scheme.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: davidbautista on September 29, 2018, 17:16
It's funny I sold the same picture twice. It was 0.01+0.01 cents.
Two people saw it in the bizarre Connect pay per view scheme.
Was does that mean :o? I'm kind of new

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Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 29, 2018, 18:38
It's funny I sold the same picture twice. It was 0.01+0.01 cents.
Two people saw it in the bizarre Connect pay per view scheme.
Was does that mean :o? I'm kind of new

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These tiny payments are pay per view, which Getty calls Connect.
Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: davidbautista on September 29, 2018, 19:01
It's funny I sold the same picture twice. It was 0.01+0.01 cents.
Two people saw it in the bizarre Connect pay per view scheme.
Was does that mean :o? I'm kind of new

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These tiny payments are pay per view, which Getty calls Connect.
That's kind of weird. So they view the photo and then what?

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Title: Re: August Numbers
Post by: ShadySue on September 30, 2018, 04:43
It's funny I sold the same picture twice. It was 0.01+0.01 cents.
Two people saw it in the bizarre Connect pay per view scheme.
Was does that mean :o? I'm kind of new

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These tiny payments are pay per view, which Getty calls Connect.
That's kind of weird. So they view the photo and then what?
That's why I wrote "bizarre", and I don't know where the money comes from.
https://contributors.gettyimages.com/article.aspx?article_id=2533 (https://contributors.gettyimages.com/article.aspx?article_id=2533)
(and Google Getty Connect)