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Title: August PP stats
Post by: tavi on September 15, 2012, 07:30
   My PP sales are not showing yet. Anyone sees them or they didn't start processing?
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: fotografer on September 15, 2012, 07:32
No, nothing here yet
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ShadySue on September 15, 2012, 07:42
Looking over at the iStock forums, it seems there's a thread about this on the Partner Program forum each month, and last month it started on August 27th.
IIRC it used to be about mid-month but has crawled later and later.
I'm not sure what you could expect this month after the shenanigans with the cash sales messup, when they can't even report iStock's own sales properly.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on September 15, 2012, 10:14
The longer they delay the payment, the more money for them. I don't expect them to pay more promptly in the future.

As a somewhat related aside, this week I saw about 90 more files from my older images make it over to Thinkstock (after a few months when nothing was moving from the backlog even though new images mostly made it over)
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: WarrenPrice on September 15, 2012, 10:17
The longer they delay the payment, the more money for them. I don't expect them to pay more promptly in the future.

As a somewhat related aside, this week I saw about 90 more files from my older images make it over to Thinkstock (after a few months when nothing was moving from the backlog even though new images mostly made it over)

I'm noticing some "selectivity."  There seems to be someone (or a group of someone) reviewing files just for Thinkstock.  And, it doesn't seem to be based on quality. 
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ShadySue on September 15, 2012, 11:14
The longer they delay the payment, the more money for them. I don't expect them to pay more promptly in the future.

As a somewhat related aside, this week I saw about 90 more files from my older images make it over to Thinkstock (after a few months when nothing was moving from the backlog even though new images mostly made it over)

I'm noticing some "selectivity."  There seems to be someone (or a group of someone) reviewing files just for Thinkstock.  And, it doesn't seem to be based on quality.

?? You mean someone is reviewing only files that certain exclusives may have directed to go solely to TS, not to iS?
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: WarrenPrice on September 15, 2012, 11:36
The longer they delay the payment, the more money for them. I don't expect them to pay more promptly in the future.

As a somewhat related aside, this week I saw about 90 more files from my older images make it over to Thinkstock (after a few months when nothing was moving from the backlog even though new images mostly made it over)

I'm noticing some "selectivity."  There seems to be someone (or a group of someone) reviewing files just for Thinkstock.  And, it doesn't seem to be based on quality.

?? You mean someone is reviewing only files that certain exclusives may have directed to go solely to TS, not to iS?

NO... I don't know anything about exclusives.  I'm just saying that of 20 of my accepted images at iS, maybe 3-5 are seen on TS.  There seems to be specific criteria.  I just don't know what the criteria is.

Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ShadySue on September 15, 2012, 11:43
The longer they delay the payment, the more money for them. I don't expect them to pay more promptly in the future.

As a somewhat related aside, this week I saw about 90 more files from my older images make it over to Thinkstock (after a few months when nothing was moving from the backlog even though new images mostly made it over)

I'm noticing some "selectivity."  There seems to be someone (or a group of someone) reviewing files just for Thinkstock.  And, it doesn't seem to be based on quality.

?? You mean someone is reviewing only files that certain exclusives may have directed to go solely to TS, not to iS?

NO... I don't know anything about exclusives.  I'm just saying that of 20 of my accepted images at iS, maybe 3-5 are seen on TS.  There seems to be specific criteria.  I just don't know what the criteria is.

I think it's just the luck of the connector. It's the same with exclusive images being, or not being, mirrored on Grtty.

AFAIK, they're not inspected again for TS.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: qwerty on September 16, 2012, 03:09
The longer they delay the payment, the more money for them. I don't expect them to pay more promptly in the future.

As a somewhat related aside, this week I saw about 90 more files from my older images make it over to Thinkstock (after a few months when nothing was moving from the backlog even though new images mostly made it over)

I'm noticing some "selectivity."  There seems to be someone (or a group of someone) reviewing files just for Thinkstock.  And, it doesn't seem to be based on quality.

?? You mean someone is reviewing only files that certain exclusives may have directed to go solely to TS, not to iS?

NO... I don't know anything about exclusives.  I'm just saying that of 20 of my accepted images at iS, maybe 3-5 are seen on TS.  There seems to be specific criteria.  I just don't know what the criteria is.

lol criteria lol

The connector doesn't work correctly but they don't care too much just as long as they get a few thousand a week new photos on there to keep the subscription customers happy enough to not go to shutterstock
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: tavi on September 17, 2012, 09:19
   Now the we has passed and absolutely nothing for me...
   Strange, the past week  was a slow down in sales, and now I don't have views. Images approved for a week with 0 views. And I checked older images and waited 2-3 days-no views. Anyone noticed something like this?
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ShadySue on September 17, 2012, 09:28
   Now the we has passed and absolutely nothing for me...
   Strange, the past week  was a slow down in sales, and now I don't have views. Images approved for a week with 0 views. And I checked older images and waited 2-3 days-no views. Anyone noticed something like this?

I don't submit to the PP, but again there is not word that the PP money has started to come this month. You might have to wait another two weeks.

And if you are talking about no views on iStock - it's one of many breaks and bugs that have unsurprisingly happened when they introduced Cash Sales and haven't been fixed in the intervening two weeks.

Keep reading the bugs thread:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=346751&page=1 (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=346751&page=1) and various other posts over there.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: tavi on September 17, 2012, 09:32
   Yes, I'm talking about no views and no sales at istock. After a good first week of september, now it's dead.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: Bauman on September 17, 2012, 11:23
   Yes, I'm talking about no views and no sales at istock. After a good first week of september, now it's dead.

Yes, this month IS is dead also for me. Last month 27 files sold and this September only 4 ...
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: tavi on September 17, 2012, 11:48
   I've checked again: absolutely no views. Now I wonder if the files cannot be seen, or the views are not listed. And so I wonder if any eventual sales aren't listed as well...cause it's curious how I am not selling anything.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: WarrenPrice on September 17, 2012, 11:49
Commissions posted at StockXpert (Hemera Collection); not sure how that relates to iS PP postings?
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ShadySue on September 17, 2012, 11:55
   I've checked again: absolutely no views. Now I wonder if the files cannot be seen, or the views are not listed. And so I wonder if any eventual sales aren't listed as well...cause it's curious how I am not selling anything.
They can be seen, views are not being recorded via iStock or DM, but I think I've read about an app or a Greasemonkey script or something which reords them.

That said, I've had six views between the 18 files I've had accepted since everything got broken, but I did notice that at least two of them were viewed directly after acceptance, before they were visible from my port. So maybe somehow if they're being viewed from 'recent acceptances' these are being recorded.

Honestly, loads of things are broken. Check out the iStock forums. It looks like my port is totally hidden except for one dollar bin/value collection, which has suddenly hit a hot spot! (I know that's not literally true, I checked when logged out and the files are still there.)
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: lisafx on September 17, 2012, 14:09
Commissions posted at StockXpert (Hemera Collection); not sure how that relates to iS PP postings?

Good to know.  Probably means Istock PP sales will begin to show next weekend. 
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: luissantos84 on September 17, 2012, 14:14
Commissions posted at StockXpert (Hemera Collection); not sure how that relates to iS PP postings?

and its a record for the lowest ever ;D
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: WarrenPrice on September 21, 2012, 18:59
August PP updates just started ... at least mine did.

Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on September 21, 2012, 22:22
Mine too.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: baran on September 22, 2012, 01:53
Do you have more money from PP or from IS?
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: Wim on September 22, 2012, 01:58
Same here and 12 dl's netting 28,40$ on the first day of sept, not bad, the Partner site is performing better then the main site  :o
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: qwerty on September 22, 2012, 02:31
I have 2 days worth showing up
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ClaridgeJ on September 22, 2012, 02:35
Where can I see these PP sales?  I havent even bothered so far but since we are at the subject. I presume its somewhere on the IS site?

Thanks.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: Wim on September 22, 2012, 02:44
Where can I see these PP sales?  I havent even bothered so far but since we are at the subject. I presume its somewhere on the IS site?

Thanks.

Select Stats and go back a month.
The green is PP.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ClaridgeJ on September 22, 2012, 04:39
Where can I see these PP sales?  I havent even bothered so far but since we are at the subject. I presume its somewhere on the IS site?

Thanks.

Select Stats and go back a month.
The green is PP.

yes now I see, thanks.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on September 22, 2012, 15:51
Same here and 12 dl's netting 28,40$ on the first day of sept, not bad, the Partner site is performing better then the main site  :o

I think this month is the first time there are non-weekend days when the PP money total is greater than the IS total for that day. Not good, but given the circumstances, I'll take the extra cash and be happy :)
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: Mantis on September 22, 2012, 19:20
Same here and 12 dl's netting 28,40$ on the first day of sept, not bad, the Partner site is performing better then the main site  :o

I think this month is the first time there are non-weekend days when the PP money total is greater than the IS total for that day. Not good, but given the circumstances, I'll take the extra cash and be happy :)

For the first time I may exceed IS sales with TS sales.  Shameful.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ShadySue on September 22, 2012, 19:27
Same here and 12 dl's netting 28,40$ on the first day of sept, not bad, the Partner site is performing better then the main site  :o

I think this month is the first time there are non-weekend days when the PP money total is greater than the IS total for that day. Not good, but given the circumstances, I'll take the extra cash and be happy :)

For the first time I may exceed IS sales with TS sales.  Shameful.
Mind you, if your iStock sales are at record levels, and TS is even better, you must be cocka.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: lisafx on September 22, 2012, 22:16
first time I may exceed IS sales with TS sales.  Shameful.


I think this month is the first time there are non-weekend days when the PP money total is greater than the IS total for that day. Not good, but given the circumstances, I'll take the extra cash and be happy :)

Really?!!  Amazing.  I have to admit I never thought that would happen. 

My TS sales surpassed my IS sales numbers a few months back, but the money totals are still only a tiny fraction of what I make on Istock.  Not sure if that means I am still doing okay on Istock (if "okay" is defined as half what I used to make) or if I am just doing relatively poorly on TS. 

Either way, when the PP is consistently outselling IS, it's the end of yetanother era. 
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ClaridgeJ on September 23, 2012, 00:49
I seem to remember a few years back before I became a member that some people here predicted this outcome. I dont know if they are still here but their predictions came through alright. No doubt at all.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: Mantis on September 23, 2012, 09:05
Same here and 12 dl's netting 28,40$ on the first day of sept, not bad, the Partner site is performing better then the main site  :o

I think this month is the first time there are non-weekend days when the PP money total is greater than the IS total for that day. Not good, but given the circumstances, I'll take the extra cash and be happy :)

For the first time I may exceed IS sales with TS sales.  Shameful.
Mind you, if your iStock sales are at record levels, and TS is even better, you must be cocka.

Seriously, Liz.  I am about 50/50 right now.  Just yesterday they added about $125 in TS sales...just the one day.  They are climbing again today.  I tried to go into stats to see exactly where I am but the stats aren't working for me.  Remember, for me, I had a lot of images on StockXpert that were put into TS, and it looks like most (but not all) of my regular uploads are making it into TS.  I am being honest here.  My TS earnings are climbing month over month, then they drop a bit, then go up higher.  Yet IS sales remain flat, and this month will be down a bit.  Overall though, my combined sales (TS + IS) is growing.  Yes, there are months that I don't do as well, but this month (using August TS sales) is a pretty good one.
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: ShadySue on September 23, 2012, 09:43
I am being honest here.  My TS earnings are climbing month over month, then they drop a bit, then go up higher.  Yet IS sales remain flat, and this month will be down a bit.
I don't doubt your honesty. I find it worrying that your IS sales are flat but your TS sales are growing. Another indication that they are putting more resources into TS than iS. They did say they wanted to expand TS, and for you and others that is happening.

Their plan for iStock is much less clear, and seems that they have little more medium-to-long term clarity than I have (which is 0).
Title: Re: August PP stats
Post by: fritz on September 23, 2012, 09:54
So far so good. By August 13th 270 downloads