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« on: September 26, 2011, 12:17 »
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Lobo posted an update: best match Update


SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2011, 12:33 »
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best match is all over the place, as always. last week I had two BDE, then yesterday and today sales are slow, for me anyways. I think the only thing consistent these days about sales on iStock, is that they aren't consistent. each month finishes okay to good on the whole so that's the number I'm keeping an eye on. the daily stats are enough to drive you crazy.

« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2011, 12:40 »
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the daily stats are enough to drive you crazy.

It's driving me crazy!

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2011, 12:43 »
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FYI - someone did quote this section from Lobo in the other best match thread here ;-) but yes, try not to focus on the daily stats. they're frustrating.

lisafx

« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2011, 13:29 »
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Wow.  So this is the best match "for the foreseeable future" according to Lobo?  Well, then, I am truly screwed.  Sales are less than half what they would normally be on a Monday.  And by that I mean less than half the new crappy normal, not the ideal normal of a year or so ago.  Istock seem determined to make themselves irrelevant to most contributors.

« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2011, 15:11 »
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On my portfolio, I dont really see a difference between best match and newest uploads. And my bestsellers seem to have disappeared in my test searches.

Well, guess I need to shoot and reshoot otherwise it all goes to the copycats.

I hope what I see is not what the customers see...

« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2011, 15:19 »
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Oh no!  This new best match is simply awful.  My August sales were excellent, and I dared to think for a few days that earnings had recovered after the last best match/Vetta/Agency debacle.  But September sales are dismal.  Last week in particular was well down and all over the place.  What on earth are they doing over there?!  ??? 

« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 15:31 »
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Just checked after reading this thread. My best match is almost identical as File Age. Not a good day, but not the worst either.

lagereek

« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2011, 00:49 »
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Monday was a very good day for me. Just had a look at this new best match and as I predicted, its beginning to look very much like the best match,  at TS. I suppose when the merger comes they simply cant mix quality with the TS rubbish, so they are toning it down a bit, not too make the TS, contributor look too amateurish.

All that counts in a best match, are the first 5 pages, the rest is dog meat.

« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2011, 07:02 »
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All that counts in a best match, are the first 5 pages, the rest is dog meat.

Sorted as 200 images per page?

RT


« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2011, 07:16 »
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Wow.  So this is the best match "for the foreseeable future" according to Lobo?

Is he privy to that sort of information? I always got the impression he was just a forum moderator.

And by that I mean less than half the new crappy normal, not the ideal normal of a year or so ago. 

 :D

lagereek

« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2011, 08:49 »
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Wow.  So this is the best match "for the foreseeable future" according to Lobo?  Well, then, I am truly screwed.  Sales are less than half what they would normally be on a Monday.  And by that I mean less than half the new crappy normal, not the ideal normal of a year or so ago.  Istock seem determined to make themselves irrelevant to most contributors.


Well Lisa!  for the first time I have to say,  if this is the final best match,  then this IS venture is a lost cause,  there is absoloutely no point in even wasting time with this anymore, time that could be far better spent making SS, DT and FT, stronger.

its ofcourse going to get even worse after this fleemarket merger.

« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2011, 09:11 »
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I'm actually cautiously optimistic about the new best match, so far this week I've seen sales improving somewhat.

lagereek

« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2011, 11:24 »
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I'm actually cautiously optimistic about the new best match, so far this week I've seen sales improving somewhat.

John!

As an exclusive you can afford that, as an independant the best match, is worse then a smack in the bollucks,  worse then a smack on each ball even. ;D ;D

lisafx

« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2011, 11:37 »
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... as an independant the best match, is worse then a smack in the bollucks,  worse then a smack on each ball even. ;D ;D

LOL!  What a way with words you have :D

If this is what a "smack" in that region feels like, no wonder guys complain about it...

« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2011, 12:24 »
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as an independant the best match, is worse then a smack in the bollucks
I do understand that istock may want to reward loyalty though, and give exclusives more of a push. That only seems fair to me.

« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 12:28 »
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As independents. you guys have the eggs in other baskets too.

However, even as an exclusive, I haven't seen the usual DL spike in September yet.

« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2011, 12:33 »
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Being an exclusive I feel scared by this new best match.

Make a search for t-shirt. If a buyer wants a t-shirt, he usually wants a t-shirt and not people wearing them. At least there should be a balance between people wearing t-shirts and t-shirts only. But this is just rediculous. I bet this is again scaring buyers away - when will istock realize that they have to please their buyers and ask them what they want instead of assuming what might be right.

Maybe they did ask - there was a survey lately (not the contributor survey). But they asked me too whether I wanted to take part and so did they ask other contributors that occasionally buy images. Of course those contribs were asking for newer files to be given a bigger priority. But people who are mainly contributors shouldnt be asked and allowed to take part in buyer surveys that are meant to get an idea of the markets demands.

Oh well...

Giving new files a chance is a good thing, but the way it was implemented last week is really really frightening. I hope it will be rolled back pretty soon.

« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2011, 13:09 »
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Unbelievably bad for many I am sure.... know I was wondering why my sales were rock bottom, cannot get my head around how istock which we have all supported over the years has become such a shadow of it's former self for both Customers and Contributers alike in such a short time  :(

No wonder they introduced the recent competition/referral update in an attempt to draw new customers  ::)

As said many times It all rather smacks of greed, and desperation. Just wish for once they would get something right to give us hope.

lagereek

« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2011, 13:46 »
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its not just a bad best match,  its an embarrassing best match, its amateurish, exactly like the TS, best match, and it shows the IS  migration to TS, is close at hand,  i.e. they have to lower their standards to beneath a weekend snapping merchant.

All in all, if this is the final best match, its not worth the troubles bothering with, not for us independants anyway. When I think of that some of my shots, dld, over 2000 times are going to end up in this sheit-street, no thanks, I rather delete them.

Just deactivated 3 files, with a total of over 5000, dls. Not even worth contemplaiting about.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2011, 14:13 by lagereek »

« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2011, 13:52 »
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proven sellers are taking a back seat to the newer files in this new best match.

people scream newer files are not being seen for how long... now we have this best match and its killing my bottom line since i have been disgusted w istock and havent produced for microstock in quite some time.

« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2011, 18:27 »
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If this best match is truly a result of what the customers want and if it will bring in more buyers and increase our sales, so be it.

But if proven sellers get killed every year, than we will all be forced to endlessly duplicate our content, otherwise downloads will go to those who copy us. I would prefer to shoot new concepts or at least try a new twist on an old theme. But if things stay like this, we wont have a choice.

But the search is so similar to the newest file search, that I wonder what is the purpose of a best match, if this is the result?

Anyway, it will change unexpectedly, guess that is the only thing that is certain.

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2011, 20:31 »
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If this best match is truly a result of what the customers want and if it will bring in more buyers and increase our sales, so be it.

But if proven sellers get killed every year, than we will all be forced to endlessly duplicate our content, otherwise downloads will go to those who copy us. I would prefer to shoot new concepts or at least try a new twist on an old theme. But if things stay like this, we wont have a choice.

But the search is so similar to the newest file search, that I wonder what is the purpose of a best match, if this is the result?

Anyway, it will change unexpectedly, guess that is the only thing that is certain.

this sums it up well. I'm seeing the normal September surge here, but I have new files. I know it can and will change just as quickly.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2011, 20:50 »
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Despite Lobo saying that the best match was how they want it, my test terms have changed at least twice since, at least once today. Interesting that in one case, the same three files have always been top throughout the past months, despite everything else being all over the place. (Do 3D renders automatically have an advantage over photos?)
Again, I'm not seeing any particular advantage to exclusives in my own 'test' searches, but I suspect there are different BMs for different keywords.
One file accepted yesterday and into my port today is somewhere below best match 1000 on its main keyword. (And yes, it is searchable, I did a combination keyword search and found it.)
« Last Edit: September 28, 2011, 05:31 by ShadySue »

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2011, 21:02 »
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I dont know how files are weighted, but I've always wondered if size affects best match placement, at least sometimes. if true, 3D files could get ahead of photos since most renders are really large. I usually create xxx large files when I render 3D files. I know other contributors do this too. just a theory.


 

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