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Started by Allsa, August 11, 2008, 23:40

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MHjerpe

Tjena kompis..

I can't decide if I want to stay at IS and go Exclusive there or
go to the others to..    If my port fits the others better i might do it..
But on the other hand  nice to be on one place only. (have decent accept ratio, and they are good ppl around there).  And uploading to a bunch of others takes so much time and energy..   (actualy have some test images on Yay (heja norge) to but only editorials)

Pixart

Quote from: MHjerpe on August 14, 2008, 14:44
TAnd uploading to a bunch of others takes so much time and energy..   
Yeah, but you can upload to all the other sites in the same amount of time as uploading to Istock; Yuri Arcurs did an study:

http://www.arcurs.com/uploading-time-average

michaeldb

Quote from: Pixart on August 14, 2008, 20:46
Quote from: MHjerpe on August 14, 2008, 14:44
TAnd uploading to a bunch of others takes so much time and energy..   
Yeah, but you can upload to all the other sites in the same amount of time as uploading to Istock; Yuri Arcurs did an study:

http://www.arcurs.com/uploading-time-average

Great link and very true. And if you think the submission process at IS is slow for photos, try uploading a vector. You have to submit 2 files per submission and enter all metadata by hand.

IS requires the most time to submit, is the slowest to review, and is by far the most likely to reject stockworthy images for arbitrary or non-existent 'reasons'.
"My mind works like Google images." Temple Grandin

vphoto

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Quote from: michaeldb on August 14, 2008, 23:40
Quote from: Pixart on August 14, 2008, 20:46
Quote from: MHjerpe on August 14, 2008, 14:44
TAnd uploading to a bunch of others takes so much time and energy..   
Yeah, but you can upload to all the other sites in the same amount of time as uploading to Istock; Yuri Arcurs did an study:

http://www.arcurs.com/uploading-time-average

Great link and very true. And if you think the submission process at IS is slow for photos, try uploading a vector. You have to submit 2 files per submission and enter all metadata by hand.

IS requires the most time to submit, is the slowest to review, and is by far the most likely to reject stockworthy images for arbitrary or non-existent 'reasons'.

Not true. IS is the most consistent in reviewing.

PeterChigmaroff


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Not true. IS is the most consistent in reviewing.
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Yes they are certainly the most  consistently inconsistent.



vphoto

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Quote from: Zeus on August 15, 2008, 02:43


Not true. IS is the most consistent in reviewing.
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Yes they are certainly the most  consistently inconsistent.



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your are right. this obvious truth has escaped me. I would like to improve on
you excellent phrasing. they are the most consistently inconsistent responding to falsehood.


PeterChigmaroff

Quote from: vphoto on August 15, 2008, 03:09
Quote from: Zeus on August 15, 2008, 02:43


Not true. IS is the most consistent in reviewing.

Yes they are certainly the most  consistently inconsistent.



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your are right. this obvious truth has escaped me. I would like to improve on
you excellent phrasing. they are the most consistently inconsistent responding to falsehood.


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That does it, I'm lost!!

louoates

IS for me is WAY down from even two years ago. After the disambiguation crap my downloads hit the skids and never recovered. I keep uploading there with good acceptance rates but still very slow compared with when I started there. SS is now topping them nearly every month, With DT nipping at IS's heels.

hoi ha

Quote from: louoates on September 04, 2008, 01:40
IS for me is WAY down from even two years ago. After the disambiguation crap my downloads hit the skids and never recovered. I keep uploading there with good acceptance rates but still very slow compared with when I started there. SS is now topping them nearly every month, With DT nipping at IS's heels.

That pretty well describes my experience to the Tee as well ...

fotografer

I've gone from average last year of over 1000 dls a month to average this year about 600 dls a month even though I am producing much better images now than I was last year.  Luckily the pricing has gone up so  that my earnings haven't dropped at the same rate. It's pretty dishearteining, I used to always upload first to IS but now I upload last to them when I get round to it.   It seems you need to be an exclusive photographer to really do well there now.

fotografer

I have just looked at my last 100 uploads to IS and DT.   Every single image has had dls on Dt  but on Is only 23 of my images have had a dl.  Same images uploaded at about the same time.

RT

One thing this thread has proved is that iStock is different for everybody, for me personally if iStock introduced an image exclusivity arrangement they would be the only microstock site I'd upload too.

abimages

Quote from: RT on September 04, 2008, 12:16
One thing this thread has proved is that iStock is different for everybody, for me personally if iStock introduced an image exclusivity arrangement they would be the only microstock site I'd upload too.

Wouldn't that be the same as being exclusive anyway? Or am I missing your point?

RT

Quote from: abimages on September 04, 2008, 20:25
Quote from: RT on September 04, 2008, 12:16
One thing this thread has proved is that iStock is different for everybody, for me personally if iStock introduced an image exclusivity arrangement they would be the only microstock site I'd upload too.

Wouldn't that be the same as being exclusive anyway? Or am I missing your point?

No, image exclusivity means just that, you could upload an individual image to iStock and nobody else, but it means I could still sell other RF images at macro sites, their deal at the moment prohibits that.
Other sites like DT and FT offer image exclusivity but personally their sales figures don't warrant me doing so, however I think iStock are in a different league and I'd certainly upload images on an exclusive basis for some sort of extra reward.

MicrostockExp

Is the photographer exclusive on IS or the photos ??

abimages

Quote from: RT on September 04, 2008, 20:50
Quote from: abimages on September 04, 2008, 20:25
Quote from: RT on September 04, 2008, 12:16
One thing this thread has proved is that iStock is different for everybody, for me personally if iStock introduced an image exclusivity arrangement they would be the only microstock site I'd upload too.

Wouldn't that be the same as being exclusive anyway? Or am I missing your point?

No, image exclusivity means just that, you could upload an individual image to iStock and nobody else, but it means I could still sell other RF images at macro sites, their deal at the moment prohibits that.
Other sites like DT and FT offer image exclusivity but personally their sales figures don't warrant me doing so, however I think iStock are in a different league and I'd certainly upload images on an exclusive basis for some sort of extra reward.

Ok I get you. I read this bit wrong," they would be the only MICROSTOCK site I'd upload too." sorry RT

fotografer

The photographer
Quote from: ldambies on September 04, 2008, 20:57
Is the photographer exclusive on IS or the photos ??

Pixart

Quote from: RT on September 04, 2008, 20:50I'd certainly upload images on an exclusive basis for some sort of extra reward.

Not to mention the fact that if they refuse a photo you would still be able to shop it around to other agencies.  For someone like me with a bad approval rate that is a big deal.   Virtually every photo IS has refused has been approved every where else (and some of them actually sell! LOL).