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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: Dreamframer on September 08, 2008, 02:46
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I noticed something unusual with my lately uploaded images on IS. Actually, when they get accepted, and I check it after few hours, they all have some 20-30 views, like they were online few days already. After it, number of views increases normally. Maybe IS changed their search algorithm and it shows new images first?
Did someone of you guys noticed this?
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Number of views is part of the secret best match formula. Some believe that high views with few downloads will push your images farther back in the results.
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People like to browse the new image page, so it gets views before it is indexed.
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People like to browse the new image page, so it gets views before it is indexed.
Thanks, that explains a lot
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Number of views is part of the secret best match formula. Some believe that high views with few downloads will push your images farther back in the results.
Are you suggesting what I think you are? That we now have to be concerned about 'viewing gangs'? That to bolster best match placement - the idea is to ignore ones own images while grossly and intentionally elevating the view to sales ratio to negatively impact the best match placement of competitors?
I'm floored, if that is the case.
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I wouldn't get too worried - firstly, it's only speculation. And secondly, those gangs would surely be better to spend their time working on their own images, rather than clicking aimlessly on the remaining 4 million???
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...And secondly, those gangs would surely be better to spend their time working on their own images, rather than clicking aimlessly on the remaining 4 million???
One would think so, but if past behavior is any indication, once it is revealed how to game the istock search engine gangs quickly form and spend their time and even money to do it.
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I have images that stopped selling a couple of times every weeks and they have received a huge amount of views compared to my others continuous sellers. But I can't say when this happen or if it could be cheating or something. Strange though
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Anyone noticed more sales when there are not images under review?
I think I sell less mages when I dont have any images pending...
Or perhaps It has no relation and I am becoming a little paranoid...
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If this is true (and I don't want to believe it is) IS should pay attention on this...
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I sell more photos at iS on days when I wear blue socks, unfortunately doing that really buggers up my sales on Dreamstime, I tried wearing odd socks but that didn't help either.
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>:(
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I don't know about the best match for sure. There is a lot of speculation about the best match and a lot of people who are more interested in spending time trying to figure out how to rig the system rather than figure out how to take good images.
Knowing that "Ratings Gangs" (rigging the ratings) and "Download Gangs" (dl'ing each others images to boost best match placement) have both been dealt with. IS admin has also stated that the best match algorithm has been changed based on these gangs. It's not that far fetched to think that a group may be trying to use views to influence best match. If it works no one knows but that wouldn't mean someone isn't trying.
My understanding is that views are only registered if the image screen is brought up and that you can't affect your own views. (ie I look at my image on the image screen and it doesn't register as a "view")
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The best match's are easy to resolve except for Fotolia because too many infos are missing when you look at the pictures. Just look at the different thread about them
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Maybe it would be good if contributors views could not be counted at all
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Maybe it would be good if contributors views could not be counted at all
From what I experienced, when you look at your images description page, the views doesn't count on most of the agencies. But it can be hard to say on Istock, because I think the stats are updated once every day or something like, maybe more often now.
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I sell more photos at iS on days when I wear blue socks, unfortunately doing that really buggers up my sales on Dreamstime, I tried wearing odd socks but that didn't help either.
hahahaha....some of these speculations are really hilarious..... ;D
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It happened again. How can be possible that just accepted image has 20 views at once? I noticed this maybe two weeks ago. Earlier, it wasn't that way. Now, almost every my image after acceptance has 20-25 views in first minutes online. It's not possible that everyone looked into my image just after acceptance. Also, one of my images had only 3 views after acceptance. What's going on here?
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Do you have a big CN? I try to go through my CN and rate new photos whenever I can.
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It happened again. How can be possible that just accepted image has 20 views at once? I noticed this maybe two weeks ago. Earlier, it wasn't that way. Now, almost every my image after acceptance has 20-25 views in first minutes online. It's not possible that everyone looked into my image just after acceptance. Also, one of my images had only 3 views after acceptance. What's going on here?
People at IS look very often at the newer images directly via the homepage. I also do that when I have time and personally click on many images sometimes. My new images also receive many views when they are attractive at thumbnail size. All that is normal
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I have a "widget" on my desktop, and I'm sure others do to, that shows the latest accepted images on IS right after they are approved. There are times I will spot an image worth taking a closer look at...do think others do the same....just a thought
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Do you have a big CN? I try to go through my CN and rate new photos whenever I can.
Sorry, I may sound stupid, but what is CN? I am on the run and I can't check it now.
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CN=creative Network
Thanks for rating some of pics Lorraine, I did the same
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Oh yes...I have small CN. Only 5-6 users...