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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2010, 17:27 »
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Downloads slightly up over 2009 for May and June, $ pretty much the same story as Nicole.


« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2010, 17:38 »
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But, like Sean, I don't give a lot of thought to RPI.  If I did I would have probably hung myself by now ;)

Maybe you should. Keep track of RPI. Not hang yourself. I reread this and it sounded bad.  ;D

If you have a 20% decrease in your RPI on 6000 files, you would make less than you would with the higher RPI and 5000 files. Say you add in a 10% little slump to that and you could lose another couple hundred dollars a month easy. If you don't keep track of RPI, how do you know what you should expect to make?
« Last Edit: June 22, 2010, 17:41 by cthoman »

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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2010, 18:10 »
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For me this month started off normally but really is losing steam over the past week. I think a lot of people are on vacation for summer.

lisafx

« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2010, 18:27 »
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But, like Sean, I don't give a lot of thought to RPI.  If I did I would have probably hung myself by now ;)

Maybe you should. Keep track of RPI. Not hang yourself. I reread this and it sounded bad.  ;D

ROFL!  VERY glad you clarified.  I was about to attach the noose to a rafter beam ;D

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If you have a 20% decrease in your RPI on 6000 files, you would make less than you would with the higher RPI and 5000 files. Say you add in a 10% little slump to that and you could lose another couple hundred dollars a month easy. If you don't keep track of RPI, how do you know what you should expect to make?

Yes, this is exactly my point.  I am making less with 6000 files this year than I did with 5000 files last year.   I do track RPI, hence my being able to quote these statistics.   

However, unless somebody can tell me how knowing these statistics will increase my sales, don't see much point in getting worked up about it.   :-\

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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2010, 18:37 »
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I am making less with 6000 files this year than I did with 5000 files last year.

I've been wondering what percentage of a portfolio contributors need to create in new images to break even year over year.

You increased yours by 20%+ and didn't break even.

Interesting.

« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2010, 18:43 »
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IS: 2nd BME (after March 2010)

« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2010, 21:14 »
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As long as monthly income stays relatively steady or goes up, rpi doesn't concern me.

« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2010, 22:01 »
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Seems to me that older files will surely become dated/outdone eventually, so RPI must go down as an increasing fraction of one's port becomes unproductive. Some work is needed just to maintain place.

« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2010, 22:54 »
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I think that the growth of images on the stock sites is much more rapid than the growth of most people's ports or the growth of buyers on stock sites, so all things being equal, RPI would drop over time (plus potential old images slowly losing sales).

as far as IS, this month is pretty lousy, on track to be the WM for 2009 and 2010. Hopefully things pick up a bit at the end of the month as they often seem to do. Still, IS has been a bit slow for me since a good March.

I do wonder how long IS can seem to push exclusive and exclusive premium content before something gives. It would be nice (and about time) for another site or sites to up the prices w/o lowering commission at the same time.

--=Tom

« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2010, 06:34 »
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Seems to me that older files will surely become dated/outdone eventually, so RPI must go down as an increasing fraction of one's port becomes unproductive. Some work is needed just to maintain place.

Just a guess but maybe the 80-100K or so new images coming on-line each week could also have an effect on Sales/Income?

lisafx

« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2010, 12:10 »
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It would be nice (and about time) for another site or sites to up the prices w/o lowering commission at the same time.

Seriously!  It is overdue.

« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2010, 15:04 »
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My revenues this year are about 20% more than last year. My upload since last year represent about 10% of my portfolio. So I guess i'm doing ok. (I'm exclusive).

vonkara

« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2010, 15:14 »
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Seems to me that older files will surely become dated/outdone eventually, so RPI must go down as an increasing fraction of one's port becomes unproductive. Some work is needed just to maintain place.

Just a guess but maybe the 80-100K or so new images coming on-line each week could also have an effect on Sales/Income?

Not just a guess, it's the main reason. Over 1 million images a year. It represent something like 20% of portfolio increase, only to maintain the exposure. Some photographers are nowhere near making a quality research about the viability of a photoshoot. They are like bikers at Le tour de France.

They shoot the same darn happy smilling girl with rock on her back. The result is maybe 300$ for the photoshoot and 40$ of returns after one year
« Last Edit: June 23, 2010, 15:16 by Vonkara »

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« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2010, 17:25 »
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My revenues this year are about 20% more than last year. My upload since last year represent about 10% of my portfolio. So I guess i'm doing ok. (I'm exclusive).

Tony, does this represent an increase or decrease in actual downloads?

Seems like most exclusives are seeing increases in $$, but I have yet to see one whose actual DL's have increased.  Would love to be proven wrong though :)

« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2010, 02:52 »
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But, like Sean, I don't give a lot of thought to RPI.  If I did I would have probably hung myself by now ;)

Maybe you should. Keep track of RPI. Not hang yourself. I reread this and it sounded bad.  ;D

If you have a 20% decrease in your RPI on 6000 files, you would make less than you would with the higher RPI and 5000 files. Say you add in a 10% little slump to that and you could lose another couple hundred dollars a month easy. If you don't keep track of RPI, how do you know what you should expect to make?

Of course!

RPI (tracked monthly) is the best measure for all our performances....
With that measure is easy to predict quantity and quality in the future...

« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2010, 05:04 »
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Seems like most exclusives are seeing increases in $$, but I have yet to see one whose actual DL's have increased.  Would love to be proven wrong though :)

I got the impression from the IS forum that exclusives with mature ports were generally reporting about a 40% increase in $'s but a 15% decrease in sales.

If you factor in the price increase of a standard exclusive image (e.g. at Medium size from 6 credits to 10) then a 15% reduction in sales, plus a 66.67% increase in commission, would indeed produce a 41% increase in overall revenue. Obviously the increase varies across the sizes and there is also the fancy collections so some will do better/worse than others.

If an exclusive has only experienced a 20% increase in revenue since last year then the maths would suggest that sales must have dropped by nearly 30% __ and that's not so good.

« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2010, 05:13 »
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RPI (tracked monthly) is the best measure for all our performances....
With that measure is easy to predict quantity and quality in the future...

What good would tracking yet another number do me?  I seem to be doing ok not being too concerned with that right now.

« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2010, 05:39 »
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RPI (tracked monthly) is the best measure for all our performances....
With that measure is easy to predict quantity and quality in the future...

Utter nonsense. RPI 'measures' nothing and is just a meaningless snapshot of a given point in time. Most definitely you cannot extrapolate any predictions of 'quantity and quality in the future' __ whatever that is supposed to mean.

If my RPI is 4.1 (or any other number) what will be my 'quality and quantity' next March please?

« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2010, 07:11 »
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Oh guys!

Obviously you have never dealt with statistics ...
Statistics  is used to predict future events based on the past, if assuming the same conditions will remain ...

So here is my RPI stats from begin:


After the "upsurge of the beginner" (because SS) RPI has fallen very low in accordance with the quality of my pictures, concepts, and position on Search Engines ...
With time, I am more familiar with the market, my pictures are moved forward in the search engines and my RPI grows almost sinuous pattern...

If it suddenly occurred a great decline in RPI, probably not my fault. But if the same sinuous pattern began to decline there is likely a possibility that the quality of my photos is  cause...

So all of this is because of pattern, and how to predict possibilities in the future...

For now , with this conditions, I expect further growth o my RPI and profitability...
This is just a basic explanation and forecast ...
A bigger number of different patterns mean more accurate prediction of events in the future ...
« Last Edit: June 24, 2010, 07:20 by borg »

« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2010, 07:12 »
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RPI (tracked monthly) is the best measure for all our performances....
With that measure is easy to predict quantity and quality in the future...

Utter nonsense. RPI 'measures' nothing and is just a meaningless snapshot of a given point in time. Most definitely you cannot extrapolate any predictions of 'quantity and quality in the future' __ whatever that is supposed to mean.

If my RPI is 4.1 (or any other number) what will be my 'quality and quantity' next March please?
Agree 100% just another silly number to track. Bottomline are your download and end of month money up or down.

« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2010, 07:21 »
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Obviously you have never dealt with statistics ...
Statistics  is used to predict future events based on the past, if assuming the same conditions will remain ...


And if they don't, they don't, and if they do, they do, and one number divided by another isn't going to change that.  You just do the best you can do and gauge the result on how successful you are per month (or whatever time length you enjoy).

rubyroo

« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2010, 07:35 »
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And if they don't, they don't, and if they do, they do, and one number divided by another isn't going to change that.  You just do the best you can do and gauge the result on how successful you are per month (or whatever time length you enjoy).

Abso-blimmin-lutely! 

Life's too short for all the stress involved in meeting or not meeting suppositions.  I much prefer to deal with what is.

« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2010, 07:43 »
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Obviously you have never dealt with statistics ...
Statistics  is used to predict future events based on the past, if assuming the same conditions will remain ...


And if they don't, they don't, and if they do, they do, and one number divided by another isn't going to change that.  You just do the best you can do and gauge the result on how successful you are per month (or whatever time length you enjoy).

Sorry guys if I sound provocative , it is not my intention to...
However, my English is just "school English"...
The statistics are only one too forecasting trends. How proverb in my country says: "Who loves is welcome ... "
« Last Edit: June 24, 2010, 13:04 by borg »

« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2010, 09:08 »
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Statistics may have limited prognostic value in microstock, but they have some motivational value for me. If I see a positive trend in my portfolio performance it can motivate me to keep those efforts, and, in turn, it's likely that I will get better results in the future.

I don't follow my statistics so closely as I used to at a very beginning - more like quarterly than monthly now. I don't really look at RPI (it can be calculated in different ways anyway). I am trying to include expenses into my microstocks statistics. Under some assumptions I am deriving my hourly rate for microstock work.

At least I know that I am making more than a minimum wage. It is also useful when making decision if it is worth to submit pictures to a low earning site: my time spent uploading vs sales ($ to $ comparison).
« Last Edit: June 24, 2010, 10:27 by PixelsAway »

« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2010, 10:08 »
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I'm kind of surprised more people don't look at earnings projections. I'm not talking about frittering your whole day away with statistics. Just a simple, if I upload x amount of images here, I should make this much. I set target goals for each agency that I upload to.

I can understand why an exclusive wouldn't worry about it too much. They are only dealing with one agency. Although if my RPI dropped well below $1 as an exclusive, I might start thinking about dumping the crown.


 

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