Author Topic: Is Lobo getting out of control.......? (Read 28958 times)

Cogent Marketing · « **on:** August 06, 2011, 15:13 »

You only have to look at the number of lock downs this fool has done in the last 12 hours to see that he has completely lost control - some of these threads are completely innocent and look like they are meant with good intentions. Seriously, how can any business that proclaims to be customer focused employ a complete idiot like Lobo. It truly beggars believe.

click_click · « **Reply #1 on:** August 06, 2011, 15:37 »

Their sandbox, their rules.

As long as they pay me they can take down the whole forum, I don't care anymore.

As long as my royalties are not depending on forum posts he can go lock-happy as much as he likes. If he has nothing better to do...

stockastic · « **Reply #2 on:** August 06, 2011, 15:41 »

I get the impression that most MG posters pretty much know what they're doing, technically. So why do you guys even bother looking at the IS forum? You won't get any useful insights into IStock's business. You can't complain about, or question, anything. So what's the point?

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #3 on:** August 06, 2011, 15:58 »

Hasn't he got a new boss now?

m@m · « **Reply #4 on:** August 06, 2011, 16:07 »

Quote from: stockastic on August 06, 2011, 15:41

I get the impression that most MG posters pretty much know what they're doing, technically. So why do you guys even bother looking at the IS forum? You won't get any useful insights into IStock's business. You can't complain about, or question, anything. So what's the point?

I guess they have to complain somewhere regardless, since they're not allowed or afraid to do so over there, they bring it over here, where we all know Lobo's BS history, and most of us (edit) couldn't care less...

lthn · « **Reply #5 on:** August 06, 2011, 16:17 »

Thats moron needs to be fired asap, along with most of the reviewers... and no I'm not saying this because of low acceptance, it's 75%+

Freedom · « **Reply #6 on:** August 06, 2011, 16:38 »

Hey, do you mean they should take down the forum (lay off Lobo) and make the business more sustainable?

Quote from: click_click on August 06, 2011, 15:37

As long as they pay me they can take down the whole forum, I don't care anymore.

ShadySue · « **Reply #7 on:** August 06, 2011, 17:07 »

Quote from: m@m on August 06, 2011, 16:07

... we all know Lobo's BS history, and most of us could care less...

Not me. I couldn't care less.
ETA: that's not strictly true. I've seen on other forums mention of Lobo's ignorance. However, the couple I've seen haven't been forums which are likely to have buyers; but no doubt some potential buyers might see his posts, or posts about his posts ...

Ed · « **Reply #8 on:** August 06, 2011, 17:51 »

Compared to what?

....take a look at the Bigstock forum - the crickets stopped chirping long ago and they are dead - looking like upside down cockroaches at the moment
....take a look at the DT forum where folks are more interested about 180 views and no sales...or rejections...or how they've had 5 files online and 2 sales in 6 months and it's a miracle.

Maybe I'm being cynical, but some of these forums are absolutely laughable. At least in the Alamy forum folks actually talk about the business alongside the rants about rejections. $:-\$

Mantis · « **Reply #9 on:** August 06, 2011, 18:04 »

As long as his manager allows it, then forums will be as they are at IS. However, many have found him to be an a-hole, unfair, and a bully who intentionally creates conflict. I agree with all of these. Grass isn't always greener on the other side once he is canned.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 06, 2011, 18:13 »

This user has the power to wield the BanHammer, a weapon forged in the fires of hell for that get-off-my-planet quality you can't get anywhere else.

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Yes, you can contact me via site mail. Please make sure you provide as much information pertaining to your inquiry as possible.

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For the record, we have no record. However, I'm willing to establish 3 minutes as the current thread lock landspeed record.

eheh let´s open a FB fan page for him

ShadySue · « **Reply #11 on:** August 06, 2011, 18:16 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 06, 2011, 18:13

This user has the power to wield the BanHammer, a weapon forged in the fires of hell for that get-off-my-planet quality you can't get anywhere else.

eheh let´s open a FB fan page for him

Some of us must be automatic super-fans.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 06, 2011, 18:20 »

shank_ali Sep 16/08
“This guy makes the forum run smooth which is no easy matter and the personnel site-mails are helpful,courteous and friendly.Thank You. Regards Alistair”

caspixel · « **Reply #13 on:** August 06, 2011, 18:23 »

Getting? He's "been" for a while now.

Quote

This user has the power to wield the BanHammer, a weapon forged in the fires of hell for that get-off-my-planet quality you can't get anywhere else.

That used to be kind of funny when iStock was a rebel, upstart, raw and edgy company where anything goes and we all knew they didn't really mean it. Heck, people used to post photos of purple dildos in the forums.

Now it just looks childish and offensive.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 06, 2011, 18:30 »

out of here, looking for that old dildos threads and the person who made them

sharpshot · « **Reply #15 on:** August 07, 2011, 01:52 »

I don't really mind Lobo. I know that his style offends some people but its not surprising that istock don't care about that. It's their forum, they can do what they like. He's encouraging people to seek out an independent microstock forum. The SS forum has less censorship but it's full of people trying to show off their latest uploads and others trying to sell their courses, books etc. I don't use any of the sites forums much.

Shank_ali · « **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2011, 02:52 »

OP,Please stop this love affair with Istock....
You have stated that you will no longer buy content from the site.You can't post in the forum but still you read the forum..Why?
Just grow some balls and continue with your own work.Keep slinging mud achieves what exactly?
A man of your years should at least appear to be mature !

Cogent Marketing · « **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2011, 04:04 »

Quote from: Pete on August 07, 2011, 02:52

OP,Please stop this love affair with Istock....
You have stated that you will no longer buy content from the site.You can't post in the forum but still you read the forum..Why?
Just grow some balls and continue with your own work.Keep slinging mud achieves what exactly?
A man of your years should at least appear to be mature !

If this comment was from anyone else other than Shank-Ali Reborn maybe someone might take an interest. Why have you changed your name, ashamed of the fact that everyone here knows who you are? Renaming yourself Pete is hardly going to confuse anyone here. All it means is that "pete' is now added to our ignore lists.

Slovenian · « **Reply #18 on:** August 07, 2011, 04:27 »

Is he? And getting? I think we are way past that

Microbius · « **Reply #19 on:** August 07, 2011, 06:40 »

I totally disagree, I think he is fully under control and anything else is just letting IStock off the hook.
Again, if IStock Inc. didn't approve of the appalling treatment being dished out on their forums they've had plenty of time to remedy it.
Any ill-treatment can by now be considered official IStock policy and under their control.

ShadySue · « **Reply #20 on:** August 07, 2011, 06:57 »

Quote from: Microbius on August 07, 2011, 06:40

I totally disagree, I think he is fully under control and anything else is just letting IStock off the hook.
Again, if IStock Inc. didn't approve of the appalling treatment being dished out on their forums they've had plenty of time to remedy it.
Any ill-treatment can by now be considered official IStock policy and under their control.

Good point and probably true; also as mentioned before, I hear Peebert was even worse.
You'd think they could train Lobo in helpfulness, and maybe a bit in iStock policy. After all, if they're paying him to be on the forums, he might as well be useful. If trained in iStock policies, he could earn his keep by filtering some queries away from Support. (though I suspect a lot of 'policies' are made up on the spot if a query arises). 'Uncle Rob' was very helpful, and would actually find out things for people.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 07, 2011, 07:07 »

Quote from: Pete on August 07, 2011, 02:52

OP,Please stop this love affair with Istock....
You have stated that you will no longer buy content from the site.You can't post in the forum but still you read the forum..Why?
Just grow some balls and continue with your own work.Keep slinging mud achieves what exactly?
A man of your years should at least appear to be mature !

ahah you are a joy! back in 08/09 you love the guy, 10/11 you hate it, now you love him again.. what a relationship you have found eheh

go shank, love reading your stuff

Cogent Marketing · « **Reply #22 on:** August 07, 2011, 07:34 »

Quote from: Slovenian on August 07, 2011, 04:27

Is he? And getting? I think we are way past that

Getting (& getting) appear to be a dead duck. Shank_Ali is definitely now called Pete pseudonym is Shank_Ali reborn

gclk · « **Reply #23 on:** August 07, 2011, 08:25 »

I wouldn't want Lobo's job.

Rob was excellent, and it was sad that he felt he had to leave. But if Lobo had left instead and Rob had stayed as the main forum moderator, even with his friendly and diplomatic way I don't think he could have kept the forums together though everything without losing some popularity.

Lobo does sometimes spice up the company's wwttff sauce with his own flavor of jerk sauce. IMO his approach could be improved a fair bit, but it's also a job that could be done a lot worse.

caspixel · « **Reply #24 on:** August 07, 2011, 08:28 »

Quote from: ShadySue on August 07, 2011, 06:57

I hear Peebert was even worse.

No, he wasn't worse. Also, they were different times back then. Peebert was edgy, but funny. And he didn't belittle people's concerns like Lobo does. And as far as I know, Peebert did not send nasty childish sitemails to people and you never heard of people being banned en masse, like what Lobo does. Of course, there were far less concerns back then because everyone was in love with iStock. Ah, the good old days...

luissantos84 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 07, 2011, 08:34 »

Quote from: gclk on August 07, 2011, 08:25

IMO his approach could be improved a fair bit, but it's also a job that could be done a lot worse.

like telling guys to fu... off, thats a dumb topic or question.. eheheh

gclk · « **Reply #26 on:** August 07, 2011, 08:47 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 07, 2011, 08:34

Quote from: gclk on August 07, 2011, 08:25
IMO his approach could be improved a fair bit, but it's also a job that could be done a lot worse.

like telling guys to fu... off, thats a dumb topic or question.. eheheh

... saying that he does seem to enjoy calling contributors 'd1cks' from time to time.

It seems that iStock's moderators are there to uphold the rules, but not to abide by them.

ShadySue · « **Reply #27 on:** August 07, 2011, 09:06 »

Quote from: gclk on August 07, 2011, 08:25

I wouldn't want Lobo's job.

Well, no, but you'd think he could have picked up some other skills and advanced by now.
iStock's careers page says:
"We love learning
We thrive off running one of the world's busiest and fastest-growing sites and we offer our employees training opportunities in many of the fields our business impacts. So whether you are interested in advanced layer-masking techniques for Photoshop, want to be an illustrator or a videographer, or just want to learn how to take a picture in focus, we're going to help.
Launched in spring 2008, iStock U is an in-house set of courses from our own experts on all kinds of visual art. You'll be immersed in a creative, web-friendly environment and we'll provide you with training to make the most of it. "
As a minimum. he should be required to get, say, 50 files in each media online, so that he knows all the frustrations of the process. It's easy to be snarky when you haven't a clue. I wouldn't dream of commenting on the issues an audio contributor might have, for instance.
And did he get a pay cut when most contributors did? Unlikely, I'd say.
Though he has been treated badly by his overlords, e.g. when they dropped the September bombshell and disappeared, and he was left, as someone here put it, 'playing whack-a-mole' with the inevitable fallout for IIRC about a week.

gclk · « **Reply #28 on:** August 07, 2011, 09:56 »

Quote from: ShadySue on August 07, 2011, 09:06

Quote from: gclk on August 07, 2011, 08:25
I wouldn't want Lobo's job.
Well, no, but you'd think he could have picked up some other skills and advanced by now.
iStock's careers page says:
"We love learning
We thrive off running one of the world's busiest and fastest-growing sites and we offer our employees training opportunities in many of the fields our business impacts. So whether you are interested in advanced layer-masking techniques for Photoshop, want to be an illustrator or a videographer, or just want to learn how to take a picture in focus, we're going to help.
Launched in spring 2008, iStock U is an in-house set of courses from our own experts on all kinds of visual art. You'll be immersed in a creative, web-friendly environment and we'll provide you with training to make the most of it. "
As a minimum. he should be required to get, say, 50 files in each media online, so that he knows all the frustrations of the process. It's easy to be snarky when you haven't a clue. I wouldn't dream of commenting on the issues an audio contributor might have, for instance.
And did he get a pay cut when most contributors did? Unlikely, I'd say.
Though he has been treated badly by his overlords, e.g. when they dropped the September bombshell and disappeared, and he was left, as someone here put it, 'playing whack-a-mole' with the inevitable fallout for IIRC about a week.

Haha, good points.

Back in the 'whack-a-mole' days following the grim September bombshell, I actually thought he moderated that quite well. He seems to have become a lot more intolerant and less reasonable since then.

madelaide · « **Reply #29 on:** August 07, 2011, 10:01 »

Do you even know if Lobo is a real person, or just a pseudonym for IS staff? Like Scout, I believe that is a group, not a person, although I have been told otherwise.

Shank_ali · « **Reply #30 on:** August 07, 2011, 10:07 »

Quote from: madelaide on August 07, 2011, 10:01

Do you even know if Lobo is a real person, or just a pseudonym for IS staff? Like Scout, I believe that is a group, not a person, although I have been told otherwise.

Bruce Livingstone made him out of Paper Mache in 2003...
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/images/larry-mask1.jpg

luissantos84 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 07, 2011, 10:22 »

Quote from: madelaide on August 07, 2011, 10:01

Do you even know if Lobo is a real person, or just a pseudonym for IS staff? Like Scout, I believe that is a group, not a person, although I have been told otherwise.

sure it is a person, not a group, that woudn´t make sense, if they are a lot of Lobo´s there... auuuhhhh

Ed · « **Reply #32 on:** August 07, 2011, 11:02 »

Peebert was awesome. He (or his pseudonym) could insult someone by complimenting the person and s/he would not have known the better. I agree he was edgy, and hilarious. He also didn't take people's crap.

I think Lobo tries to be like Peebert...but he takes a lot more nonsense than Peebert did.

I still think the forum there is much better and more professional than that of any other micro agency.

lagereek · « **Reply #33 on:** August 07, 2011, 11:08 »

He is a figment of our imagination, our darkest nightmares and fears. He comes in our dreams hijacking our sanity, chasing us into oblivioun, touching our sub-concious minds, our astral bodies and spiritual ego.

he is:

Cogent Marketing · « **Reply #34 on:** August 07, 2011, 11:59 »

Shank_Ali , aka getting, aka Pete, is now aka Doris.

I think maybe admin should take a look at his account (like iSP did) and give him a three month suspension from posting here. I doubt anyone will miss him.

Sadstock · « **Reply #35 on:** August 07, 2011, 13:02 »

Its funny because Lobo was the one who ousted Peebert for being unprofessional. There was a very short lived thread in September of 06 in which Lobo and Peebert went at it. Lobo called Peebert and Upsidedowndog trolls for the way they treated posters to the forums, particularly newbies. Peebert's role in the forums was diminished and he left shortly after. UDD stopped posting and left a note on his istock blog saying he'd been told by some that his posts were no longer wanted so he would stop. http://www.istockphoto.com/user_view.php?id=261505 see the September 06 post.

The thread's lifespan was something like 7 minutes before it disappeared. I just happened to read it while it was going on.

Funny how its Lobo who is the unprofessional one now...

fotografer · « **Reply #36 on:** August 07, 2011, 13:10 »

I wondered where UDD dissapeared to. I used to enjoy his posts and find him entertaining. On the otherhand I found Peebert really offensive sometimes.

Cogent Marketing · « **Reply #37 on:** August 07, 2011, 13:46 »

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 11:59

Shank_Ali , aka getting, aka Pete, is now aka Doris.

I think maybe admin should take a look at his account (like iSP did) and give him a three month suspension from posting here. I doubt anyone will miss him.

Update on Shank Ali's bizarre name changes.

Shank Ali has now childishly assumed my forum name of Cogent Marketing. I have reported him for forum abuse to the administrators and look forward to seeing him banned from this forum permanently. What a silly, childish old man he clearly is. But hey, the real Shank Ali shows himself in his true colours. Not surprised he's also banned from iSP.

Shank_ali · « **Reply #38 on:** August 07, 2011, 14:03 »

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 13:46

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 11:59
Shank_Ali , aka getting, aka Pete, is now aka Doris.

I think maybe admin should take a look at his account (like iSP did) and give him a three month suspension from posting here. I doubt anyone will miss him.

Update on Shank Ali's bizarre name changes.

Shank Ali has now childishly assumed my forum name of Cogent Marketing. I have reported him for forum abuse to the administrators and look forward to seeing him banned from this forum permanently. What a silly, childish old man he clearly is. But hey, the real Shank Ali shows himself in his true colours. Not surprised he's also banned from iSP.

I seem to be talking to myself these days

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #39 on:** August 07, 2011, 14:14 »

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 11:59

Shank_Ali , aka getting, aka Pete, is now aka Doris.

I think maybe admin should take a look at his account (like iSP did) and give him a three month suspension from posting here. I doubt anyone will miss him.

How many births must Shank Ali have,
Before you call him a man?...

The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

fotografer · « **Reply #40 on:** August 07, 2011, 14:43 »

That confused me. I knew that I hadn't got you on ignore. I hope that he is banned for this too. I rarely go to the SS forums because of the attention seeker there that never seems to get banned as he deletes all his offensive statements before the PTB see them but it's getting as bad over here with the Shank.

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 13:46

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 11:59
Shank_Ali , aka getting, aka Pete, is now aka Doris.

I think maybe admin should take a look at his account (like iSP did) and give him a three month suspension from posting here. I doubt anyone will miss him.

Update on Shank Ali's bizarre name changes.

Shank Ali has now childishly assumed my forum name of Cogent Marketing. I have reported him for forum abuse to the administrators and look forward to seeing him banned from this forum permanently. What a silly, childish old man he clearly is. But hey, the real Shank Ali shows himself in his true colours. Not surprised he's also banned from iSP.

wiser · « **Reply #41 on:** August 07, 2011, 14:54 »

Lobo is immature and his frustration is not hidden.

It is his job to moderate and close inappropriate, duplicate threads. It is his job to keep threads on topic and delete offensive posts.

It is not his job to belittle posters, especially newbies, and infrequent posters. Just lock the dam thread with a simple forthright explanation. But he insists on having the last snotty word.

I don't give a crap that he is a nice guy in person and those who have met him defend him. 98% of forum poster have never met him and probably never will, so we will never know that. What people know of him is what he says in the forums. He is NOT funny. He is arrogant, rude and very unprofessional. If IS wants to get away from the warm fuzzies and get down to the business of business, then they need to curb this dog.

There are plenty of other arrogant rude posters on the IS forums, but they are not representatives of IS nor being paid by IS to moderate the forums. Lobo should look up the word moderator and read the definition of it's root word moderate, and repeat it like a mantra.

bunhill · « **Reply #42 on:** August 07, 2011, 14:54 »

Lol @ Shank

caspixel · « **Reply #43 on:** August 07, 2011, 15:27 »

Quote from: Sadstock on August 07, 2011, 13:02

Its funny because Lobo was the one who ousted Peebert for being unprofessional. There was a very short lived thread in September of 06 in which Lobo and Peebert went at it. Lobo called Peebert and Upsidedowndog trolls for the way they treated posters to the forums, particularly newbies. Peebert's role in the forums was diminished and he left shortly after. UDD stopped posting and left a note on his istock blog saying he'd been told by some that his posts were no longer wanted so he would stop. http://www.istockphoto.com/user_view.php?id=261505 see the September 06 post.

The thread's lifespan was something like 7 minutes before it disappeared. I just happened to read it while it was going on.

Funny how its Lobo who is the unprofessional one now...

Wow, I did not know any of that, but I do remember the bewilderment after all that went down and some of those members of the community disappeared. Oh the irony of Lobo calling anyone a troll. But there was once a day where he was not nearly the prick he is now. He really should probably find another job. He is so clearly not happy in that one.

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #44 on:** August 07, 2011, 16:29 »

Quote from: caspixel on August 07, 2011, 15:27

Quote from: Sadstock on August 07, 2011, 13:02
Its funny because Lobo was the one who ousted Peebert for being unprofessional. There was a very short lived thread in September of 06 in which Lobo and Peebert went at it. Lobo called Peebert and Upsidedowndog trolls for the way they treated posters to the forums, particularly newbies. Peebert's role in the forums was diminished and he left shortly after. UDD stopped posting and left a note on his istock blog saying he'd been told by some that his posts were no longer wanted so he would stop. http://www.istockphoto.com/user_view.php?id=261505 see the September 06 post.

The thread's lifespan was something like 7 minutes before it disappeared. I just happened to read it while it was going on.

Funny how its Lobo who is the unprofessional one now...

Wow, I did not know any of that, but I do remember the bewilderment after all that went down and some of those members of the community disappeared. Oh the irony of Lobo calling anyone a troll. But there was once a day where he was not nearly the prick he is now. He really should probably find another job. He is so clearly not happy in that one.

It's kind of a crappy job really (I'm not being sympathetic). I remember at school when students were chosen to be school prefects, they were over the moon. However, if they weren't already unpopular they soon became unpopular. Imagine still being a school prefect when you're at at Lobo's age.

SNP · « **Reply #45 on:** August 07, 2011, 17:01 »

frankly I don't think Lobo should care, and I doubt he does. I'm also amazed how many people here who regularly complain about iStock have no clue who Lobo is, what his name is etc. so much for understanding the agency you're contributing to. he is indeed a real person, just one person...not like scout.

I've had my own run ins with Lobo, but most of the time we've either exchanged helpful sitemails or simply left it at agreeing to disagree. he's quite a nice guy in my experience and I would NEVER want his job because I wouldn't be able to contain the sarcasm for more than one day in his role.

incredibly ironic how rude, sarcastic, belittling and uninformed people are with one another here -and yet ~~many~~ some of those same people are claiming to be hurt or affronted by Lobo's sarcasm.

gostwyck · « **Reply #46 on:** August 07, 2011, 17:08 »

Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 17:01

... incredibly ironic how rude, sarcastic, belittling and uninformed people are with one another here -and yet ~~many~~ some of those same people are claiming to be hurt or affronted by Lobo's sarcasm.

I just hate the fact that we have to pay his wages via our sales. However little it costs ... it's not worth it.

caspixel · « **Reply #47 on:** August 07, 2011, 17:14 »

Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 17:01

incredibly ironic how rude, sarcastic, belittling and uninformed people are with one another here -and yet ~~many~~ some of those same people are claiming to be hurt or affronted by Lobo's sarcasm.

Well, difference being that nobody here is being paid to be a moderator in the forum of a billion dollar company where the contributors and buyers of whom he is so fond of being rude to and belittling are paying his salary. You'd think there should be at least a little respect shown for that, if nothing else.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #48 on:** August 07, 2011, 17:15 »

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 13:46

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 11:59
Shank_Ali , aka getting, aka Pete, is now aka Doris.

I think maybe admin should take a look at his account (like iSP did) and give him a three month suspension from posting here. I doubt anyone will miss him.

Update on Shank Ali's bizarre name changes.

Shank Ali has now childishly assumed my forum name of Cogent Marketing. I have reported him for forum abuse to the administrators and look forward to seeing him banned from this forum permanently. What a silly, childish old man he clearly is. But hey, the real Shank Ali shows himself in his true colours. Not surprised he's also banned from iSP.

shank RAMPAGE!!! eheh you are a crazy guy

Cogent Marketing · « **Reply #49 on:** August 07, 2011, 18:30 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 07, 2011, 17:15

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 13:46
Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 11:59
Shank_Ali , aka getting, aka Pete, is now aka Doris.

I think maybe admin should take a look at his account (like iSP did) and give him a three month suspension from posting here. I doubt anyone will miss him.

Update on Shank Ali's bizarre name changes.

Shank Ali has now childishly assumed my forum name of Cogent Marketing. I have reported him for forum abuse to the administrators and look forward to seeing him banned from this forum permanently. What a silly, childish old man he clearly is. But hey, the real Shank Ali shows himself in his true colours. Not surprised he's also banned from iSP.

shank RAMPAGE!!! eheh you are a crazy guy

Not only out of control and completely lost the plot he (LOL) has absolutely no idea what is coming his way. Mr Alistair Forrester Shankie is really in for a surprise as a direct result of his unprofessional (and unlawful) behavior - Mr Richard Silbey was extremely interested to hear about his behavior too. (Amateur Photographers Magazine). I think there might be a retraction coming.............

luissantos84 · « **Reply #50 on:** August 07, 2011, 18:35 »

really?? shank!!!

they will take your price!!

SNP · « **Reply #51 on:** August 07, 2011, 18:47 »

Quote from: gostwyck on August 07, 2011, 17:08

Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 17:01
... incredibly ironic how rude, sarcastic, belittling and uninformed people are with one another here -and yet ~~many~~ some of those same people are claiming to be hurt or affronted by Lobo's sarcasm.

I just hate the fact that we have to pay his wages via our sales. However little it costs ... it's not worth it.

lol, well I hate that my taxes are being used by a majority conservative federal government with their heads up their arses...but what are you going to do?

once in a while I cringe when Lobo drops a more extreme snarky comment towards the more "innocent" posters who happened to post at the wrong place/wrong time when he is pissed at someone else or just especially gritty. but he isn't the first 'bad cop' persona in a situation like the iStock forum. it has its purpose, but is undoubtedly a completely thankless job.

caspixel · « **Reply #52 on:** August 07, 2011, 18:53 »

Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 18:47

Quote from: gostwyck on August 07, 2011, 17:08
Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 17:01
... incredibly ironic how rude, sarcastic, belittling and uninformed people are with one another here -and yet ~~many~~ some of those same people are claiming to be hurt or affronted by Lobo's sarcasm.

I just hate the fact that we have to pay his wages via our sales. However little it costs ... it's not worth it.

lol, well I hate that my taxes as being used by a majority conservative federal government with their heads up their arses...but what are you going to do? once in a while I cringe when Lobo drops a more extreme snarky comment towards the more "innocent" posters who happened to post at the wrong place/wrong time when he is pissed at someone else or just especially gritty. but he isn't the first 'bad cop' persona in a situation like the iStock forum. it has its purpose, but is undoubtedly a completely thankless job.

I'm so tired of hearing these excuses that are made for him. The other forum moderators do not adopt his snarky attitude. Rob, Kelvin, MichaelJay Dawn, Jasmine (when she was a moderator) and a host of others all comport themselves with dignity, help contributors and buyers when they can, and show some respect. Lobo is the *only* one who has that snarky piss poor attitude. And I'm really tired of this "thankless job" crap. If he gets frustrated and pissed that easily, he should FIND ANOTHER JOB. Imagine walking into a store as a customer and being treated that poorly. You'd get fired in a heartbeat for a crappy attitude like that.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 07, 2011, 19:07 »

never had an issue with him but my activity there is pretty small, like zero.. but I agree, FIND ANOTHER JOB!

Cogent Marketing · « **Reply #54 on:** August 07, 2011, 19:10 »

Quote from: caspixel on August 07, 2011, 18:53

Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 18:47
Quote from: gostwyck on August 07, 2011, 17:08
Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 17:01
... incredibly ironic how rude, sarcastic, belittling and uninformed people are with one another here -and yet ~~many~~ some of those same people are claiming to be hurt or affronted by Lobo's sarcasm.

I just hate the fact that we have to pay his wages via our sales. However little it costs ... it's not worth it.

lol, well I hate that my taxes as being used by a majority conservative federal government with their heads up their arses...but what are you going to do? once in a while I cringe when Lobo drops a more extreme snarky comment towards the more "innocent" posters who happened to post at the wrong place/wrong time when he is pissed at someone else or just especially gritty. but he isn't the first 'bad cop' persona in a situation like the iStock forum. it has its purpose, but is undoubtedly a completely thankless job.

I'm so tired of hearing these excuses that are made for him. The other forum moderators do not adopt his snarky attitude. Rob, Kelvin, MichaelJay Dawn, Jasmine (when she was a moderator) and a host of others all comport themselves with dignity, help contributors and buyers when they can, and show some respect. Lobo is the *only* one who has that snarky piss poor attitude. And I'm really tired of this "thankless job" crap. If he gets frustrated and pissed that easily, he should FIND ANOTHER JOB. Imagine walking into a store as a customer and being treated that poorly. You'd get fired in a heartbeat for a crappy attitude like that.

There seems to be a strong opinion that Lobo acts with the blessing and approval of his masters, in which case, what might be Getty's "master plan" diminish iSP to a state where it is defunct and remove a credible 'competitor' from the market. They've done it before with 'other acquisitions'. Maybe Lobo is employed by Getty and is simply a plant inside iSP to achieve one of their aims -piss everyone (including exclusives) off to a point they all abandon the site. Makes sense if you think about it.

admin · « **Reply #55 on:** August 07, 2011, 20:35 »

User Shank_ali has been banned for assuming the identity of Congent Marketing. Taking the user name of another member and pretending to post as them is obviously unacceptable.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 07, 2011, 20:38 »

this won´t be good, it will show even more the devil locked inside

(he will be back)

RacePhoto · « **Reply #57 on:** August 07, 2011, 20:55 »

Quote from: admin on August 07, 2011, 20:35

User Shank_ali has been banned for assuming the identity of Congent Marketing. Taking the user name of another member and pretending to post as them is obviously unacceptable.

Again? Well he wanted his account closed? LOL

caspixel · « **Reply #58 on:** August 07, 2011, 21:01 »

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 19:10

There seems to be a strong opinion that Lobo acts with the blessing and approval of his masters, in which case, what might be Getty's "master plan" diminish iSP to a state where it is defunct and remove a credible 'competitor' from the market. They've done it before with 'other acquisitions'. Maybe Lobo is employed by Getty and is simply a plant inside iSP to achieve one of their aims -piss everyone (including exclusives) off to a point they all abandon the site. Makes sense if you think about it.

Possibly, but most big businesses do tend to act like your friend to your face while they (knowingly or unknowingly to you) rob you blind. Few act like it's *your* fault when you are dissatisfied. With as polite and cordial as everyone else is, his "Jerk at iStockphoto" persona (as listed on his Facebook profile) seems really out of step.

Zephyr · « **Reply #59 on:** August 07, 2011, 22:03 »

If you're not aware of Bruce's new project Saatchi Online, here is the link : http://www.saatchionline.com

I don't know Peebert but I see he is the forum moderator there. Here is his profile page:

http://www.saatchionline.com/profile/296792

ETA: I thought you old school folks would find that interesting.

SNP · « **Reply #60 on:** August 07, 2011, 23:02 »

Quote from: retrorocket on August 07, 2011, 22:03

If you're not aware of Bruce's new project Saatchi Online, here is the link : http://www.saatchionline.com

I don't know Peebert but I see he is the forum moderator there. Here is his profile page:

http://www.saatchionline.com/profile/296792

ETA: I thought you old school folks would find that interesting.

I read about this and thought one of two things, that it will either become another joint iStock venture (like Blurb etc.), or do something to compete with iStock. and someone suggested earlier that Lobo is a plant...just silly and conspiratorial. how do people here know so little about the internal structure of the company they spent so much time despising? Lobo was one of the original originals. He was in a band with Bruce for Pete's sake....he was around before most of us were. he's not a Getty plant....I can't think of anyone less likely to be a corporate spy.

Zephyr · « **Reply #61 on:** August 07, 2011, 23:22 »

Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 23:02

Quote from: retrorocket on August 07, 2011, 22:03
If you're not aware of Bruce's new project Saatchi Online, here is the link : http://www.saatchionline.com

I don't know Peebert but I see he is the forum moderator there. Here is his profile page:

http://www.saatchionline.com/profile/296792

ETA: I thought you old school folks would find that interesting.

I read about this and thought one of two things, that it will either become another joint iStock venture (like Blurb etc.), or do something to compete with iStock. and someone suggested earlier that Lobo is a plant...just silly and conspiratorial. how do people here know so little about the internal structure of the company they spent so much time despising? Lobo was one of the original originals. He was in a band with Bruce for Pete's sake....he was around before most of us were. he's not a Getty plant....I can't think of anyone less likely to be a corporate spy.

It's neither. It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock. A higher end competitor of ETSY might be a better description.

This whole thing about Lobo is ultimately pointless but I guess some folks need to vent. Instead of starting threads at Istock we should start them here. Then Lobo can't hurt anyone's feelings and you can say what you want.

lagereek · « **Reply #62 on:** August 08, 2011, 02:54 »

Quote from: Cogent Marketing on August 07, 2011, 19:10

Quote from: caspixel on August 07, 2011, 18:53
Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 18:47
Quote from: gostwyck on August 07, 2011, 17:08
Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 17:01
... incredibly ironic how rude, sarcastic, belittling and uninformed people are with one another here -and yet ~~many~~ some of those same people are claiming to be hurt or affronted by Lobo's sarcasm.

I just hate the fact that we have to pay his wages via our sales. However little it costs ... it's not worth it.

lol, well I hate that my taxes as being used by a majority conservative federal government with their heads up their arses...but what are you going to do? once in a while I cringe when Lobo drops a more extreme snarky comment towards the more "innocent" posters who happened to post at the wrong place/wrong time when he is pissed at someone else or just especially gritty. but he isn't the first 'bad cop' persona in a situation like the iStock forum. it has its purpose, but is undoubtedly a completely thankless job.

I'm so tired of hearing these excuses that are made for him. The other forum moderators do not adopt his snarky attitude. Rob, Kelvin, MichaelJay Dawn, Jasmine (when she was a moderator) and a host of others all comport themselves with dignity, help contributors and buyers when they can, and show some respect. Lobo is the *only* one who has that snarky piss poor attitude. And I'm really tired of this "thankless job" crap. If he gets frustrated and pissed that easily, he should FIND ANOTHER JOB. Imagine walking into a store as a customer and being treated that poorly. You'd get fired in a heartbeat for a crappy attitude like that.
There seems to be a strong opinion that Lobo acts with the blessing and approval of his masters, in which case, what might be Getty's "master plan" diminish iSP to a state where it is defunct and remove a credible 'competitor' from the market. They've done it before with 'other acquisitions'. Maybe Lobo is employed by Getty and is simply a plant inside iSP to achieve one of their aims -piss everyone (including exclusives) off to a point they all abandon the site. Makes sense if you think about it.

Getty bought IS, just to hold it at bay, to controle it. No more no less, theyve done that a thousand times before. As soon as Getty have squeezed the lifeblood out of IS, they will dump it, like a hot potatoe.
Managed to get another "competitor out of the way" keep your enemies even closer syndrome.

sharpshot · « **Reply #63 on:** August 08, 2011, 03:13 »

I almost fell over when I saw that Saatchi give artists 70% of the profit from sales. I hope someone with bigger pockets and better ethics than Getty will be interested in stock images. Bill Gates is involved but doesn't seem to have a lot of ambition. Hopefully someone else will come along and see there's a lot of money to make without having to make life miserable for contributors.

bunhill · « **Reply #64 on:** August 08, 2011, 04:21 »

Quote from: retrorocket on August 07, 2011, 23:22

It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock.

The Saatchis are no longer involved with Saatchi & Saatchi.

Nor M&C Saatchi according to the press.

lagereek · « **Reply #65 on:** August 08, 2011, 05:15 »

Look fellas, this has got NOTHING to do with the actual Ad-agency Saatchi&Saatchi. Barking up the wrong tree.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #66 on:** August 08, 2011, 06:12 »

Quote from: retrorocket on August 07, 2011, 23:22

It's neither. It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock.

... yet.

SNP · « **Reply #67 on:** August 08, 2011, 06:42 »

Quote from: sjlocke on August 08, 2011, 06:12

Quote from: retrorocket on August 07, 2011, 23:22
It's neither. It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock.

... yet.

yup.

cobalt · « **Reply #68 on:** August 08, 2011, 06:55 »

It's neither. It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock.

... yet.

Did you hear anything???

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #69 on:** August 08, 2011, 07:00 »

Quote from: cobalt on August 08, 2011, 06:55

It's neither. It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock.

... yet.

Did you hear anything???

Can you hear the drums Fernando?
I remember long ago another starry night like this
In the firelight Fernando
You were humming to yourself and softly strumming your guitar
I could hear the distant drums
And sounds of bugle calls were coming from afar

gclk · « **Reply #70 on:** August 08, 2011, 07:05 »

^^ interesting to see previous high profile iStockers such as Tyler Stalman leaving iStock employment, joining the Saatchi Online team and promptly dropping iStock exclusivity.

As I understand it, if Saatchi Online continued doing what they do now, there would be no need for him (or even Bitter himself) to have dropped iS exclusivity.

Of course there could be plenty of other reasons for them to drop exclusivity I suppose.

bunhill · « **Reply #71 on:** August 08, 2011, 07:08 »

Quote from: cobalt on August 08, 2011, 06:55

It's neither. It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock.

The website is an offshoot of Charles Saatchi's art gallery. He is a very influential art collector who sets trends.

Let's be clear. The website has nothing to do with Saatchi & Saatchi - that advertising agency still carries their name but they departed from it many years ago. And according, to the press, they (the two brothers) are also no longer involved with the agency which they founded after leaving their original agency.

(It's like the Gates Foundation has nothing to do with Windows.)

guenterguni · « **Reply #72 on:** August 08, 2011, 07:19 »

Quote from: gclk on August 08, 2011, 07:05

^^ interesting to see previous high profile iStockers such as Tyler Stalman leaving iStock employment, joining the Saatchi Online team and promptly dropping iStock exclusivity.

Stalman is still exclusive photographer on iStock, your information is wrong. See http://www.istockphoto.com/stalman

Cogent Marketing · « **Reply #73 on:** August 08, 2011, 07:24 »

Quote from: bunhill on August 08, 2011, 07:08

Quote from: cobalt on August 08, 2011, 06:55
It's neither. It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock.

The website is an offshoot of Charles Saatchi's art gallery. He is a very influential art collector who sets trends.

Let's be clear. The website has nothing to do with Saatchi & Saatchi - that advertising agency still carries their name but they departed from it many years ago. And according, to the press, they (the two brothers) are also no longer involved with the agency which they founded after leaving their original agency.

(It's like the Gates Foundation has nothing to do with Windows.)

Correct - although there is a tenuous connection between Saatchi & Saatchi and Charles. Shareholders at S&S were (and still are) incensed that loads of cash assets from S&S was siphoned off prior to Maurice & Charles leaving and forming M&C Saatchi (or Mc Saatchi as it was colloquially called in the press). It was this cash that originally enabled Charles to begin buying artworks - today Charles' collection is huge (worth millions) and he is an inspiration to very many young upcoming (skint) artists. Maurice Saatchi (now Lord and a Baron) is still an executive director of M&C Saatchi. Charles has no apparent connection with the company anymore. A few years ago he married Nigella Lawson (the celebrity cook) and I believe today, apart from eating fabulous home cooked food, concentrates purely on his art collection and artists.

gclk · « **Reply #74 on:** August 08, 2011, 07:31 »

Quote from: guenterguni on August 08, 2011, 07:19

Quote from: gclk on August 08, 2011, 07:05
^^ interesting to see previous high profile iStockers such as Tyler Stalman leaving iStock employment, joining the Saatchi Online team and promptly dropping iStock exclusivity.

Stalman is still exclusive photographer on iStock, your information is wrong. See http://www.istockphoto.com/stalman

I stand corrected... could have sworn that last time I looked he was no longer listed as exclusive, but you're right - he definitely is now.

ProArtwork · « **Reply #75 on:** August 08, 2011, 07:32 »

Quote from: guenterguni on August 08, 2011, 07:19

Quote from: gclk on August 08, 2011, 07:05
^^ interesting to see previous high profile iStockers such as Tyler Stalman leaving iStock employment, joining the Saatchi Online team and promptly dropping iStock exclusivity.

Stalman is still exclusive photographer on iStock, your information is wrong. See http://www.istockphoto.com/stalman

I think he was an Admin or inspector at one point.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #76 on:** August 08, 2011, 08:23 »

Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 17:01

I'm also amazed how many people here who regularly complain about iStock have no clue who Lobo is, what his name is etc. so much for understanding the agency you're contributing to.

Why would anyone want to "understand the agency"? If I made knitwear and sold it through a high street shop, should I involve myself with the shop's history and the company politics and personalities involved?

I assess iStock according to how it treats me in our business dealings and how it performs for me. I'm not terribly happy with the first half of that equation and I have some concerns about the trends in the second half. The history and personalities are of no importance to either.

lagereek · « **Reply #77 on:** August 08, 2011, 08:29 »

Quote from: bunhill on August 08, 2011, 07:08

Quote from: cobalt on August 08, 2011, 06:55
It's neither. It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock.

The website is an offshoot of Charles Saatchi's art gallery. He is a very influential art collector who sets trends.

Let's be clear. The website has nothing to do with Saatchi & Saatchi - that advertising agency still carries their name but they departed from it many years ago. And according, to the press, they (the two brothers) are also no longer involved with the agency which they founded after leaving their original agency.

(It's like the Gates Foundation has nothing to do with Windows.)

Sigh! its been said a thousand times.

ProArtwork · « **Reply #78 on:** August 08, 2011, 08:39 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on August 08, 2011, 08:23

Quote from: SNP on August 07, 2011, 17:01
I'm also amazed how many people here who regularly complain about iStock have no clue who Lobo is, what his name is etc. so much for understanding the agency you're contributing to.

Why would anyone want to "understand the agency"? If I made knitwear and sold it through a high street shop, should I involve myself with the shop's history and the company politics and personalities involved?

Is about "the more I know the less I know", but in the end is about being a step ahead of the game.

Zephyr · « **Reply #79 on:** August 08, 2011, 08:46 »

Quote from: sjlocke on August 08, 2011, 06:12

Quote from: retrorocket on August 07, 2011, 23:22
It's neither. It's selling original fine art and prints. It's not advertising related, so even though Saatchi is a big name in advertising this website has nothing to do with stock.

... yet.

Have you been sworn to secrecy or is this just wishful thinking...I would imagine Getty made Bruce sign a no-compete that lasts for quite a long time.

ShadySue · « **Reply #80 on:** August 08, 2011, 12:45 »

Back on topic, I notice JJRD has said:
"Moderators are fair.
People going Downtown around here go beyond expressing themselves."

Well, ya know:
"So, maybe I'll see you there
We can forget all our troubles, forget all our cares and go
Downtown, things'll be great when you're
Downtown, don't wait a minute more,
Downtown, everything's waiting for you"
[Tony Hatch]

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #81 on:** August 08, 2011, 13:13 »

Quote from: ShadySue on August 08, 2011, 12:45

Back on topic, I notice JJRD has said:
"Moderators are fair.
People going Downtown around here go beyond expressing themselves."

Well, ya know:
"So, maybe I'll see you there
We can forget all our troubles, forget all our cares and go
Downtown, things'll be great when you're
Downtown, don't wait a minute more,
Downtown, everything's waiting for you"
[Tony Hatch]

You'll be dancing with 'em too before the night is over,..

ShadySue · « **Reply #82 on:** August 08, 2011, 13:21 »

Quote from: Microstock Posts on August 08, 2011, 13:13

Quote from: ShadySue on August 08, 2011, 12:45
Back on topic, I notice JJRD has said:
"Moderators are fair.
People going Downtown around here go beyond expressing themselves."

Well, ya know:
"So, maybe I'll see you there
We can forget all our troubles, forget all our cares and go
Downtown, things'll be great when you're
Downtown, don't wait a minute more,
Downtown, everything's waiting for you"
[Tony Hatch]

You'll be dancing with 'em too before the night is over,..

We need some new blood.

wiser · « **Reply #83 on:** August 08, 2011, 19:52 »

Quote from: ShadySue on August 08, 2011, 12:45

Back on topic, I notice JJRD has said:
"Moderators are fair.
People going Downtown around here go beyond expressing themselves."

I didn't get what he meant by this. It sounds dirty, ya know like going down-town on someone. I rarely understand the things JJRD says but this one really has me confused. Does anyone speak JJRDish and perhaps enlighten me?

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #84 on:** August 08, 2011, 20:38 »

No, I don't know anything, but what better way to monetize a collection of content?

Bruce's non compete was 3 yrs afaik.

pieman · « **Reply #85 on:** August 09, 2011, 17:07 »

I love fan threads

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #86 on:** August 09, 2011, 17:15 »

Quote from: pieman on August 09, 2011, 17:07

I love fan threads

Stop searching for the lock thread button.

briciola · « **Reply #87 on:** August 09, 2011, 17:37 »

Quote from: Microstock Posts on August 09, 2011, 17:15

Quote from: pieman on August 09, 2011, 17:07
I love fan threads

Stop searching for the lock thread button.

must annoy . outa him that he can't do shi!t about it right enough

blackwaterimages · « **Reply #88 on:** August 09, 2011, 17:39 »

Quote from: caspixel on August 07, 2011, 08:28

Peebert was edgy, but funny. And he didn't belittle people's concerns like Lobo does.

Very true.

Quote from: madelaide on August 07, 2011, 10:01

Do you even know if Lobo is a real person, or just a pseudonym for IS staff? Like Scout, I believe that is a group, not a person, although I have been told otherwise.

Chris McBurney is Lobo. Pete Rockwell is/was Peebert. Its a shame Pete got the boot from iStock.

gclk · « **Reply #89 on:** August 09, 2011, 17:57 »

Quote from: pieman on August 09, 2011, 17:07

I love fan threads

Well there you go Lobo

wiser · « **Reply #90 on:** August 09, 2011, 20:23 »

Quote from: pieman on August 09, 2011, 17:07

I love fan threads

Whoa, a cameo appearance of the man himself. Did we strike a nerve?

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