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iStock sales VOLUME since the start of Jy?

Independent - Significantly up
Independent - About the same
Independent - Significantly down
Exclusive - Significantly up
Exclusive - About the same
Exclusive - Significantly down

Author Topic: Istock sales since price changes  (Read 21248 times)

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shudderstok

« Reply #175 on: July 21, 2013, 20:27 »
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"Except they said all our files would be for sale forever at rock bottom prices"

Yeah, they love playing games.  http://www.seanlockephotography.com/2013/07/16/half-the-price-forever-really/

Other problem is 'half price' of what?   You can't just say they're 'half price', since it isn't a sale where you can say 'this week, half price'.  Since this is now the price 'forever'.


I know you aren't arguing about semantics.


he needs to move on. not sure why he always needs to perpetually blog about an agency he is no longer part of. one would think he'd put his effort promoting stocksy and his work by blogging positive great fun happy cheery stuff about stocksy and his work, not always dragging istock or anything getty through the mud to promote stocksy. it really reads and comes across as vengeful and somewhat self righteous.


I totally disagree, if there is something wrong/false and leading buyers in a fraudulent way I believe we should tell them what is going on, Sean is doing that in a polite way and of course advertising stocksy, don't see a problem with it


if "he" or you are so sure about this being fraudulent then let him or both of  you contact a lawyer and sue them. i see this as nothing more than being bitter. i personally find it peculiar that "he" has so much time to creep everything IS does, what getty does, and even more so where yuri's images are just to promote stocksy. that is plain obsessive man.

i am only trying to point out that you don't need to creep agencies or individual shooters to promote yourself or another agency you believe in. it's sort of getting a bit tiring. surely there is enough merit on this other agency that you don't need to knock individual shooters and/or agencies.

you can call it polite, that is fair enough, i find it rather tasteless and in the case of knocking/creeping individual shooters rather disrespectful and full of arrogance.


« Reply #176 on: July 22, 2013, 06:29 »
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The 'credits' things is interesting.  Have they now shifted to pointing out the huge discrepancy between the credit price and the cash price on main collection files?  Or is it still a confusing reference to moving the independent files to the value, I mean main, collection more than a month ago?

« Reply #177 on: July 22, 2013, 09:02 »
+2
What is tiring is the long parade of awful business decisions, broken promises and falling returns from iStock. If that stopped, so would the complaining.

Changes in iStock's behavior (over which I'm not holding my breath), not complaints that "you're not being fair" from the few remaining iStock fans is the only way to turn around people's view of them.

Ron

« Reply #178 on: July 22, 2013, 09:25 »
0
You wonder if there is no PR manager on staff.

However PR is mostly for the buyers, not the suppliers.

I would love to be a fly on the wall at IS

shudderstok

« Reply #179 on: July 22, 2013, 09:29 »
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What is tiring is the long parade of awful business decisions, broken promises and falling returns from iStock. If that stopped, so would the complaining.

Changes in iStock's behavior (over which I'm not holding my breath), not complaints that "you're not being fair" from the few remaining iStock fans is the only way to turn around people's view of them.

i for one am not a big fan of the decisions IS/Getty make. that said, i think the industry as a whole is very messed up. as i have said for years, and will say it again, microstock/internet/technology has thrown the whole industry into a complete free fall in terms of the respect images deserve, in particular the usage fees, and even more particular the fees that microstock allowed to be the norm and a new generation of photographer that thought is was cool to sell a photo for such a fee, multiple times to make money. once upon a time images were worth something, they no longer are. once upon a time there were editors, there no longer are.

this is not to get into the past versus the present conversation, nor is it a micro versus trad conversation. i've been in this game for too many years, well before Getty, and it is my observation that the combo of the ease in which one can simply put photos online for sale has brought on a whole new breed of stock photographers, for better or worse.

i personally don't know too many shooters micro or trad that are happy with the way the industry is going, which is "corporate". these so called agencies know we are a dime a dozen, they know the industry now has a new benchmark of selling your images for pennies. there is simply an over saturation of imagery on the market from too many sources, both old sources and new sources.

the result is, when sean steps up to the plate (and thanks for that by the way) as he did while one of the top sellers at IS, they canned him. justified or not, it was a sh!t move, and that is what the industry has become. we are all in this sh!t storm together, and unfortunately no amount of complaining or mud slinging is going to change a thing.

i don't like it any more than most, but my gut tells me it is going to get worse both in terms of sales as individuals and the reward we deserve. let's face the facts, bruce sold out and made millions by getty buying him out, and he is not the first agency to have made millions from Getty by selling out by the way, the SS guy is worth a billion, and the next move will be making shareholders happy, not shooters, getty has been sold twice now, for billions... and through all of this these companies have been incredibly profitable.

this whole fiasco is my worst nightmare as i have watched the value of my imagery and hard work plummet in the last ten years or so.

i personally don't see a reversal of fortune coming any time soon, whether you are micro, macro, indie, or exclusive.

i think this is something we all need to accept.

ShadySue

« Reply #180 on: July 22, 2013, 09:45 »
0
You wonder if there is no PR manager on staff.
I dn't want to be spun any more lies and false promises.


 

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