Author Topic: Confused by the 2 Merge (Read 5768 times)

illstudio · « **on:** September 06, 2018, 09:53 »

I dabbled in MS since 2008 and haven't really been vigilant to the changes in the industry since then, but Im taking a more serious approach to getting into MS to make some money.
My question is I am totally confused by the Getty, iStock relationship (and ESP- whatever that is). Who do I submit new content too and does it appear on both sites, one or do I have to submit to both and where does ESP come in? I get multiple log in screens that seem to do nothing and just send me in circles.
I am so lost with this merge. (yes I had a istock account originally, but not a Getty)
Lost in Space. Steve

StanRohrer · « **Reply #1 on:** September 06, 2018, 10:07 »

Getty bought iStock. iStock was run as a separate entity for a bit and then Getty merged them into the Getty database and system. ESP is the name of the portal that iStock people can use to upload and check their account. Off the top of my head I no longer remember the steps if you have an old iStock account and need to access via ESP.

dpimborough · « **Reply #2 on:** September 06, 2018, 10:36 »

And if you are not exclusive to getty/istock then you'll only get 15% royalties (they keep 85%) and get used to earning 1 and 2 cent royalties too.

In other words don't bother with them

illstudio · « **Reply #3 on:** September 06, 2018, 11:23 »

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on September 06, 2018, 10:36

And if you are not exclusive to getty/istock then you'll only get 15% royalties (they keep 85%) and get used to earning 1 and 2 cent royalties too.

In other words don't bother with them

Really? wow

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2018, 16:35 »

Quote from: illstudio on September 06, 2018, 11:23

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on September 06, 2018, 10:36
And if you are not exclusive to getty/istock then you'll only get 15% royalties (they keep 85%) and get used to earning 1 and 2 cent royalties too.

In other words don't bother with them

Really? wow

Flat rates now. 15% photo, 20% illustrations, 15% video. In my case audio I'm exclusive but that makes me less because they are sold through Getty and I think they are licensed through a partner site. Simply put, my earnings on audio dropped by going exclusive. Might be different for others.

Your login, is you EMAIL address not your company name that you used on IS, the password is the same. If that doesn't work, good luck, you'll need to contact support.

Get Deep Meta or qHero or both if you want to upload. Getty just disable the outside submitter software, no access. Get ready for batches and convoluted uploads, with the CV and odd system limitation.

No up to date data. Yes you can see total downloads year to date, (login and click in the upper right, account management) but not what or anything much of use. For example, my statistics on DM and ESP are showing July 2018. On September 20th or around that date, the August data will be imported.

None of this is about sales, just the system. If you had any sports or editorial like Getty features you will find your files are gone. I lost around 4,000 images.

There you are, I'm sure you will be surprised by the changes and how IS went backwards into the dark ages with ESP.

illstudio · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2018, 09:52 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on September 07, 2018, 16:35

Quote from: illstudio on September 06, 2018, 11:23
Quote from: Sammy the Cat on September 06, 2018, 10:36
And if you are not exclusive to getty/istock then you'll only get 15% royalties (they keep 85%) and get used to earning 1 and 2 cent royalties too.

In other words don't bother with them

Really? wow

Flat rates now. 15% photo, 20% illustrations, 15% video. In my case audio I'm exclusive but that makes me less because they are sold through Getty and I think they are licensed through a partner site. Simply put, my earnings on audio dropped by going exclusive. Might be different for others.

Your login, is you EMAIL address not your company name that you used on IS, the password is the same. If that doesn't work, good luck, you'll need to contact support.

Get Deep Meta or qHero or both if you want to upload. Getty just disable the outside submitter software, no access. Get ready for batches and convoluted uploads, with the CV and odd system limitation.

No up to date data. Yes you can see total downloads year to date, (login and click in the upper right, account management) but not what or anything much of use. For example, my statistics on DM and ESP are showing July 2018. On September 20th or around that date, the August data will be imported.

None of this is about sales, just the system. If you had any sports or editorial like Getty features you will find your files are gone. I lost around 4,000 images.

There you are, I'm sure you will be surprised by the changes and how IS went backwards into the dark ages with ESP.

Thanks. They sound like more trouble than they're worth.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2018, 12:27 »

Seems like all of this depends on what you make and upload, a personal decision. But I will add the general consensus is, keywording, the disambiguation and getting everything ready for submitting, is the most complicated and convoluted of any place.

Some people are very happy with the retuns for the effort. Some have lost so much in income that they stopped uploading.

To each their own.

dpimborough · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2018, 17:20 »

I closed my account back in 2016 and deleted the 2000 images I had there.

To be honest it didn't make any difference as by then royalties were on between $30 to $70 a month