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« on: March 31, 2019, 08:52 »
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Downloaded the newest version and it looks like a big overhaul, but very, very slow and the interface takes longer.

Any other users?

J


« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2019, 11:17 »
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Downloaded the newest version and it looks like a big overhaul, but very, very slow and the interface takes longer.

Any other users?

J

Yes, 3.12.4 and then 3.12.5 did not resolve anything :(

« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2019, 16:16 »
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The change is that multi-edit (editing multiple images at once, the nr 1 user request) was introduced a month ago, as a feature in the right-hand preview pane (but went largely unnoticed).

With v3.12.4, the same functionality is available in the main popup window.

There are some UI performance issues with keywording though, and thanks to all users who have reported this.
I apologize for this degradation in editing speed and I'm working on fixing this in the next release.
Should be available in the next few days. Thanks for your patience!

There's a video explaining multi-edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHp7DKxyc2g
It shows the feature in the right hand pane, but it works exactly the same in the popup window now.

@JetCityImage: just to make sure, besides the keywording, is anything else slower than usual?
thx.

« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2019, 02:02 »
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The keywording is the main slowdown.

Thanks!

« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2019, 02:38 »
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Thanks, I'm on it ;)

« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2019, 04:20 »
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Yes, keywording is slow but still faster than me, when I am 'disambiguating' files one by one.
Thank you for good work Frank.
Maybe you could work for Adobe too? Their programmers need help.

« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2019, 05:15 »
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The keywording is slow and one needs to click too much to get a small work done.

Not a good update, regretting it now.

« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2019, 12:45 »
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The worst update ever !!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
How can i go back to a previous version ?

« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2019, 13:55 »
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The worst update ever !!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
How can i go back to a previous version ?

I think that it is time that you think to make a big donation to help FrankyDM to develop better this FREE application that nobody obliges you to use

« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2019, 00:11 »
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The worst update ever !!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
How can i go back to a previous version ?


If you'd rather not wait, you can uninstall DeepMeta and re-install the previous release v3.12.1. Here's the download link for DeepMeta - Windows v3.12.1 https://deepmeta.blob.core.windows.net/downloads/DeepMetaWin-3.12.1.zip

and DeepMeta - Mac v3.12.1.    https://deepmeta.blob.core.windows.net/downloads/DeepMetaMac-3.12.1.zip

hope this helps  8)
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 00:13 by Stu49 »

« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2019, 03:21 »
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The worst update ever !!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
How can i go back to a previous version ?

If you'd be so kind, can I ask whether you use Mac or Windows?
Also is it just the keywording that's worse (which I'm working on), or other things as well?

Thank you!
« Last Edit: April 03, 2019, 06:06 by FrankyDM »

PZF

« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2019, 09:53 »
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One minor irritation I find is that when I am processing (keywording etc) a batch and I want to send up SOME but not all all then, I seem to remember that previously only those that were ready to upload became available to upload. Not they all appear there and I have to click and move them across in lumps, avoiding ones being held back for one reason or another.... If you understand me.....
Also, a query please. How long after IS tells me a new keyword has been added, does it actually start to appear as an option in DM? Sometimes seems ages......
Ta.

« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2019, 11:22 »
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The worst update ever !!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
How can i go back to a previous version ?

If you'd be so kind, can I ask whether you use Mac or Windows?
Also is it just the keywording that's worse (which I'm working on), or other things as well?

Thank you!
I use mac. And the latest version of DeepMeta ist getting me nervous when editing photos.
Wenn i edit keywords there are accepted keywords and keywords suggestions.
The Keyword suggestions on the right are jumping in the first row when i close a suggestion at the bottom.
I don't know if this behavior has been before. But it never has been so annoying.
Also i don't need the model release window next to the keyword suggestions. Since i don't shoot models. But i can't turn it off. This is making me crazy.
It has always been so fine using DeepMeta. I cant use the ESP Side at Getty because the usability is awful. Its making me crazy.
But now the usability of DepMeta seems to get closer to Getty.
Getty is the worst side to upload images. DeepMeta was the only comfortable way to upload to Getty.

« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2019, 13:09 »
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One minor irritation I find is that when I am processing (keywording etc) a batch and I want to send up SOME but not all all then, I seem to remember that previously only those that were ready to upload became available to upload. Not they all appear there and I have to click and move them across in lumps, avoiding ones being held back for one reason or another.... If you understand me.....
Also, a query please. How long after IS tells me a new keyword has been added, does it actually start to appear as an option in DM? Sometimes seems ages......
Ta.
I know what you mean!

It goes like this: the left hand upload list used to show only items that were ready to upload.
When moving from iStock to Getty ESP, a DeepMeta update accidentally started showing all non-uploaded files in that list.
I noticed this only way later and mentioned this in the forum.

Apparently, some users had started using this as a "feature", and mostly managed their files this way in the Upload section instead of the Files section ;)

From old and very recent experience, I know that changes and especially taking away something is not well received.

So there we are...

I'm considering to add a few mode buttons above the left hand Upload list to allow users to filter the files they want.
A good compromise, I think.

« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2019, 13:16 »
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One thing to always keep in mind: The best is the enemy of good

« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2019, 13:17 »
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I use mac. And the latest version of DeepMeta ist getting me nervous when editing photos.
Wenn i edit keywords there are accepted keywords and keywords suggestions.
The Keyword suggestions on the right are jumping in the first row when i close a suggestion at the bottom.
I don't know if this behavior has been before. But it never has been so annoying.
Also i don't need the model release window next to the keyword suggestions. Since i don't shoot models. But i can't turn it off. This is making me crazy.
It has always been so fine using DeepMeta. I cant use the ESP Side at Getty because the usability is awful. Its making me crazy.
But now the usability of DeepMeta seems to get closer to Getty.
Getty is the worst side to upload images. DeepMeta was the only comfortable way to upload to Getty.

I fully understand your frustration, and apologize for the current situation.
The jarring UI in the latest Mac version is my fault and the new version that fixes the "jumpy" keywording behavior is almost ready.

About the Release section at the right. It's a change that is actually good for users like you who never use model releases.
In previous versions, the releases were taking up precious space under the standard edit fields at the left (Getty users have a lot more fields than iStock users, sometimes up to 25!), so I was getting complaints about releases taking up space there.

You can already drag the vertical separator between keyword and release section all the way to the right, so that it doesn't bother you.
I'm planning a setting to completely hide the keyword list all together. The end result should be better for you than the old version.
The current release is a bit of a transition, and I'm sorry for the rough edges.

Thank you very much for taking the time to explain all your gripes. I take these very seriously and this kind of info is extremely helpful.


« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2019, 02:53 »
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Thank You, latest mac version works great !!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2019, 04:01 »
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Thank you Franky, DM is working well again on mac with the last update  :)

« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2019, 10:22 »
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Thank you both for reporting back and sorry for messing up with the previous release.

It's reports like yours that keep me going. Have a great weekend.

« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2019, 05:09 »
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I just updated it and it works like charm. Thanks for it.  :)

I still wish that there were two buttons introduced in "to Edit" page.
1- a "Add All" button on "please refine.. (keywords)" area so that we can add the keywords in one click.
2- a "Next" navigation button to move forward to the next image to edit. Currently we need to close the window and open the next "to edit" image. Current process is little time consuming.

« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2019, 07:21 »
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Franky, I have one suggestion.
When adding keywords to selected, multi, files it will be great to have 2 options:
- add keywords to all selected images - existing solution
- add keywords only images where the keyword was present - new option. For example if 'background' is present in all selected images this word will be added. But 'yellow' and 'red' which are in 2 individual images will be added only once.
Thanks.

PZF

« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2019, 10:14 »
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How long does it take after IS add a word to their vocabulary for it to appear in DM please?

« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2019, 11:41 »
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I just updated it and it works like charm. Thanks for it.  :)

I still wish that there were two buttons introduced in "to Edit" page.
1- a "Add All" button on "please refine.. (keywords)" area so that we can add the keywords in one click.
2- a "Next" navigation button to move forward to the next image to edit. Currently we need to close the window and open the next "to edit" image. Current process is little time consuming.

Thanks very much for reporting back.

Re. your suggestions:

1. "Add All" button. Not sure what you mean. Say there is a keyword with choice of 5 different meanings to refine. Would you want all these meanings to be added as keywords? (if so, I can say already that Getty would never allow this ;)

2. Very good idea. I like it! Added to my list.

« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2019, 11:46 »
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Franky, I have one suggestion.
When adding keywords to selected, multi, files it will be great to have 2 options:
- add keywords to all selected images - existing solution
- add keywords only images where the keyword was present - new option. For example if 'background' is present in all selected images this word will be added. But 'yellow' and 'red' which are in 2 individual images will be added only once.
Thanks.

I got a similar question/suggestion on a different forum.
It makes a lot of sense.
The current system is great if you're manually adding keywords. In that case, you likely expect the keywords you enter + disambiguate to be added to all selected images.

However, in workflows like you probably have, where keywords are already in the IPTC data, you just want to disambiguate.
It would really speed things up if you could select all files that you added, and go through the right hand list to "bulk" disambiguate, but respecting which files had the keyword and which did not.

I guess that's what you mean, right?

I won't/can't change the default behavior, but could add the functionality with e.g. Ctrl-click or similar.

« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2019, 11:49 »
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How long does it take after IS add a word to their vocabulary for it to appear in DM please?

I don't know what the delay is between Getty staff adding a new keyword and having it appear as an option on the ESP site.
All I can say is that as soon as it appears as option at ESP, it's also available in DeepMeta. For each keyword that you enter in DeepMeta, it performs a live lookup at the ESP server, so the 2 are in sync.


 

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