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« on: September 26, 2016, 12:37 »
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http://app.engage.gettyimages.com/e/es?s=1591793372&e=388535&elq=cd125ddc08344981b0aaa1a66378b2a6&elqaid=7512&elqat=1&elqTrackId=c081583c3958443ba1ff3bec826dbb26

Got this in my e-mail this morning.   A bit rich coming from the same company that sold our images to Google Drive for pennies to be used as clip art a few years ago.    But whatever.   
« Last Edit: September 26, 2016, 12:39 by fieldsphotos »


ShadySue

« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2016, 12:51 »
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I thought it was ironic, considering the perfectly usable-on-the web unwatermarked thums on iS search.

« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2016, 12:53 »
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A few years too late, but good for them if they do something about it. Hopefully whatever they do will affect all the other agencies too.
edit: I signed both petitions, just in case it helps.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2016, 12:59 by cathyslife »

Noedelhap

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2016, 12:56 »
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Googles Actions Getty's Actions Threaten Creative Livelihoods

Fixed that for ya.

« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2016, 13:11 »
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What a piss take. Is there a petition to stop an agency giving away my copyright material to google to redistribute unlimited times in exchange for pennies? You can't make this sh*t up.

« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2016, 13:41 »
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Getty caring about the livelihoods of photographers? Against Google... What weird times... I think the end is nigh...

« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2016, 15:14 »
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In 2013 Getty willingly gave Google at least 6,000 of the best selling iStock contributor images to freely use and distribute as high resolution 'clip art' on the Google Drive site, but without any permission first from the copyright owners of the images.

As a result of that free Getty/Google deal it cost the contributor's hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, and reduced the future earnings potential of the free images down to $0.00.

So first Getty give Google over 6,000 iStock images for free thus, pressing the self destruct button, but now have changed their minds for some reason?

It's like when a government sells arms to a rogue dictatorship regime and then acts surprised when they fire their own weapons back at them later.

Pardon me, but I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2016, 15:25 »
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Fear not, I have added my email address, country and zip code to those Getty petitions. Now you can rest easy again and everything will be fixed up good as new in no time. You watch!

« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2016, 15:34 »
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This is verbatim from the Getty petition they are flogging:

"In January 2013, Google drastically changed the presentation of results in image search.  Instead of thumbnails, Google began displaying high resolution, large-format images.  The new format also contained reduced information about the source, credit and copyright of the image."

I guess that wouldn't have anything to do with the Getty/Google deal when Getty gave Google free use of all those thousands of iStock contributor images.

What do you tell a kid that has 2 black eyes? Nothing, he's been told twice already.

« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2016, 16:03 »
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I'm sure these 2 mindless corporate predators can work out a deal that protects the interests of creative people.   LOL

« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2016, 16:06 »
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Regardless how you feel about Getty you need to sign this and share the video!

Shelma1

« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2016, 16:26 »
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Getty's concerned about protecting us from copyright violations? Then where's the image creators' share of all the money Getty collects when it send out extortion letters?

« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2016, 16:29 »
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This is the pot calling the kettle black for sure but still worth signing. Video is good to share as well.

« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2016, 16:43 »
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Getty's concerned about protecting us from copyright violations? Then where's the image creators' share of all the money Getty collects when it send out extortion letters?

Getty's concerned about protecting us from copyright violations? Then where's the image creators' share of all the money Getty collects when it sells people's images without their permission?

Isn't Getty being sued right now for a few billion for just that?

B8

« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2016, 17:03 »
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This is the pot calling the kettle black for sure but still worth signing. Video is good to share as well.

Agreed, video is well presented:



« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2016, 01:11 »
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Oh yeah, they are right. But as a previous post says, the hypocrisy does make you sick up into your mouth as you sign.


« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2016, 04:24 »
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Would be easy for Google to have their own stock site, or buy one that already exists and make lots of money from image licensing, paying us and hopefully at a higher percentage than Getty.  That would be a better solution than sending people to Getty sites where we might get as little as 15% or less, if the buyer gets a discount.

The sites should join forces on this.  Are the other sites too frightened of Google?

« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2016, 12:47 »
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Every search engine presents the images the same way. If Getty doesn't like it, they can exclude themselves from the search results, just like contributors can...oh wait, we can't delete our portfolios anymore.

Shelma1

« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2016, 13:56 »
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Getty offers the lowest royalties around, offers our images for free use on blogs, and sends threatening letters demanding hundreds or thousands of dollars in payment that bypass the image creator completely. They're such hypocrites it's ridiculous. I honestly think they're pushing this issue because they're going to lose that billion-dollar lawsuit, and they may have to shut down their extortion division, and there goes a huge source of income for them (but not us) that's made possible in large part by Google image scraping.

gyllens

« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2016, 14:16 »
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For a Corp that is bust and bankrupt with the Bailiffs knocking on the door they enough make a noise.

U11


« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2016, 14:39 »
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I will not be surprised if Getty bypass contributors by getting a settlement lump sum

ShadySue

« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2016, 14:59 »
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http://app.engage.gettyimages.com/e/es?s=1591793372&e=388535&elq=cd125ddc08344981b0aaa1a66378b2a6&elqaid=7512&elqat=1&elqTrackId=c081583c3958443ba1ff3bec826dbb26

Got this in my e-mail this morning.   A bit rich coming from the same company that sold our images to Google Drive for pennies to be used as clip art a few years ago.    But whatever.

It's a highly acrimonious divorce.

« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2016, 00:56 »
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I went ahead and signed, but the irony of Getty pretending to give a rats a$$ about contributors and our coprights was not lost on me.  Still this Google practice is BAD and sales noticeably dropped off on multiple sites when they implemented it, and have not recovered.

« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2016, 01:04 »
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Although Getty is to blame for devaluating photography among many others I see this an action in the right direction that will benefit all photographers that generate royalties. Google last implementations has hurt all of us and their very conscient actions that favour piracy and their benefit from it has to be stopped, if we don't want to loose our already very thin ground on our feet. I signed.

« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2016, 10:45 »
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Signed.


 

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