Author Topic: Poor start to 2014 (Read 19855 times)

Ron · « **Reply #50 on:** January 26, 2014, 18:16 »

I would love to see the faces of auditors when they find a mess in the books by all these reporting cock ups. My god, how can this even keep continuing. It shouldnt, I cant fathom how incompetent that company is, and whats worse is, that no one in that place seems to wanting to do anything about that incompetence. I am thinking if IS were based in Europe, they would have been investigated by Brussels by now.

Ron · « **Reply #51 on:** January 26, 2014, 18:17 »

And how can it be that out of the tens of thousands of contributors no one is reporting this sheite to a BBB or something. Is really no one saying anything about this?

ShadySue · « **Reply #52 on:** January 26, 2014, 18:25 »

Quote from: Ron on January 26, 2014, 18:17

And how can it be that out of the tens of thousands of contributors no one is reporting this sheite to a BBB or something. Is really no one saying anything about this?

Like reporting 'only from iStock' to the ASA, it's an interesting way to quit.

qwerty · « **Reply #53 on:** January 27, 2014, 03:04 »

whats BBB ?

Ron · « **Reply #54 on:** January 27, 2014, 04:36 »

Quote from: qwerty on January 27, 2014, 03:04

whats BBB ?

Better Business Bureaus

http://www.bbb.org/

Like an ombudsman

donding · « **Reply #55 on:** January 27, 2014, 22:01 »

I quit iStock about two years ago so I don't read the iStock posts usually. I just find it amazing when reading this, it sounds exactly like the same crap that made me leave two years ago and so many others all said they were leaving also, but chose to stay. I hope for all your sakes you make the right choice this time around. Two years is a long time and how do you even know if the money that they "refund", because of these supposed bugs, really is what they owed you? These people are crooks plan and simple.

gostwyck · « **Reply #56 on:** January 28, 2014, 04:31 »

Quote from: lisafx on January 26, 2014, 17:28

Quote from: goober on January 24, 2014, 00:40
And the good news is that my grandfather, the royalty rate of 2013, has turned up and is making a welcomed improvement to the stats, although I'm still way down on last year.

Oh, thanks for posting. Just checked and mine's back up too. Wonder if/when we can expect to be reimbursed for the back money we're owed as a result of this bug.

I suspect that it may have already happened. When I got up this morning my balance had increased by an amount that was not apparent from either recorded sales or the PP.

goober · « **Reply #57 on:** January 28, 2014, 05:49 »

Yes. I have an extra big fat wad of cash in my account this morning and because of their opaque accounting system I have no idea if its from GI or refund for Jan royalty rate glitch. On the positive side, I'm glad to have it.

Gannet77 · « **Reply #58 on:** January 28, 2014, 06:31 »

Quote from: goober on January 28, 2014, 05:49

Yes. I have an extra big fat wad of cash in my account this morning and because of their opaque accounting system I have no idea if its from GI or refund for Jan royalty rate glitch. On the positive side, I'm glad to have it.

It'll be GI.

See here http://www.istockphoto.com/user_stats.php?Offset=0&DownloadsGraphFileType=

and check for the purple bar in December. You'll have to dig a bit deeper to find out exactly what sold though.

JPSDK · « **Reply #59 on:** January 28, 2014, 10:47 »

Quote from: Gannet77 on January 28, 2014, 06:31

Quote from: goober on January 28, 2014, 05:49
Yes. I have an extra big fat wad of cash in my account this morning and because of their opaque accounting system I have no idea if its from GI or refund for Jan royalty rate glitch. On the positive side, I'm glad to have it.

It'll be GI.

See here http://www.istockphoto.com/user_stats.php?Offset=0&DownloadsGraphFileType=

and check for the purple bar in December. You'll have to dig a bit deeper to find out exactly what sold though.

I just checked that link, which is my stats page. It proves i had downloads 8 months after I pulled my port.
That is not legal! Why dont someone sue them?
Conclusion is that they proved they deserved all the bad vibes I have spread about them.

ShadySue · « **Reply #60 on:** January 28, 2014, 11:02 »

Quote from: JPSDK on January 28, 2014, 10:47

Quote from: Gannet77 on January 28, 2014, 06:31
Quote from: goober on January 28, 2014, 05:49
Yes. I have an extra big fat wad of cash in my account this morning and because of their opaque accounting system I have no idea if its from GI or refund for Jan royalty rate glitch. On the positive side, I'm glad to have it.

It'll be GI.

See here http://www.istockphoto.com/user_stats.php?Offset=0&DownloadsGraphFileType=

and check for the purple bar in December. You'll have to dig a bit deeper to find out exactly what sold though.

I just checked that link, which is my stats page. It proves i had downloads 8 months after I pulled my port.
That is not legal! Why dont someone sue them?
Conclusion is that they proved they deserved all the bad vibes I have spread about them.

I think it would have to be you, I doubt if anyone else could sue on your behalf.
Probably you'd have to give them the opportunity to give you the money you own them and to get every image off all of their programmes, which of course they should have done already.

Is there a way you can contact them after you've (supposedly) closed your account there?

NB: Did you formally close your account, or did you just deactivate your images from iStock?

JPSDK · « **Reply #61 on:** January 28, 2014, 11:24 »

I deactivated and have only one picture left. A dead coackroach, I thought it was appropriate.
It is not about the money, but about them violating copyright laws.
I disagrreed on the business concept, and therefore I deleted my images, and yet they still sell them.

Noone can sue on my behalf, I know that, but, there might be others in the same situation and closer to the headquarters. They could.
I think there is basis for 1 mill lawsuits against IS. Why hasnt someone done it.
Yes, yes, duty of silence and all that. But it doesnt hold water.

You can say all you want during a lawsuit, only thing is, that the opposition might use it against you.
Which again can be to your advantage.

But, do we agree on, that they should not sell pictures 8 months afher they have been deactivated?

ShadySue · « **Reply #62 on:** January 28, 2014, 11:28 »

Quote from: JPSDK on January 28, 2014, 11:24

I deactivated and have only one picture left. A dead coackroach, I thought it was appropriate.
...
But, do we agree on, that they should not sell pictures 8 months afther they have been deactivated?

That might be debatable.
You deactivated them from iStock, but didn't formally close your account and ask that your images be deleted from all their programmes.
I'm guessing they have wiggle room there.
(IANAL)

bunhill · « **Reply #63 on:** January 28, 2014, 11:30 »

JPSDK · « **Reply #64 on:** January 28, 2014, 11:36 »

Quote from: ShadySue on January 28, 2014, 11:28

Quote from: JPSDK on January 28, 2014, 11:24
I deactivated and have only one picture left. A dead coackroach, I thought it was appropriate.
...
But, do we agree on, that they should not sell pictures 8 months afther they have been deactivated?
That might be debatable.
You deactivated them from iStock, but didn't formally close your account and ask that your images be deleted from all their programmes.
I'm guessing they have wiggle room there.
(IANAL)

How can they have access to, and sell my images If I have deleted them?

I know, that there can be strange ways among servers, but I have deleted the pictures I uploaded, and since I am the copyright holder, the images cannot be copied further.
It is not my problem what kind of strange server setup one site has with another.
I have never uploaded my images to any is affiliate. It is only IS who has, and I have told them to stop. When I deleted my images, the flux of images was meant to stop.

UNLESS the flow of derivate images was not based on the original.
And if it wasnt, its violating copyright.

Ron · « **Reply #65 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:02 »

Deactivating is not the same as deleting. As far as I know you cant delete images, only deactivate. If you can still login, your account wasnt removed either. Maybe your loboroach image picked up 8 sales.

JPSDK · « **Reply #66 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:08 »

Quote from: Ron on January 28, 2014, 12:02

Deactivating is not the same as deleting. As far as I know you cant delete images, only deactivate. If you can still login, your account wasnt removed either. Maybe your loboroach image picked up 8 sales.

I dont think so. If I deactivate or delete it is the sAME. is may have ways of their own, but thats is not important, I pressed the only button there was to delete, I do not remember what it was called.
A company can write many things in a contract, like I hereby mention that all your earnings go to my account. but contracts are not always legal. Laws sometimes overrules contracts. And with Istock , there are many such cases.

It was my swallowtails they spread. Not the cockroach, and they knew exactly what they did. Therefor they should be sued and punished.

BUT.
I knew they were playing a foul game, thats why I left.
It has now been proven in court.
I hope some near the headquarters with an attorney in the family sues them, so their abuse can end.

ShadySue · « **Reply #67 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:13 »

Quote from: JPSDK on January 28, 2014, 11:36

Quote from: ShadySue on January 28, 2014, 11:28
Quote from: JPSDK on January 28, 2014, 11:24
I deactivated and have only one picture left. A dead coackroach, I thought it was appropriate.
...
But, do we agree on, that they should not sell pictures 8 months afther they have been deactivated?
That might be debatable.
You deactivated them from iStock, but didn't formally close your account and ask that your images be deleted from all their programmes.
I'm guessing they have wiggle room there.
(IANAL)

How can they have access to, and sell my images If I have deleted them?

I'm assuming that your images were already on Thinkstock and Photos.com, so deactivating them from iStock wouldn't remove them from these, unless you specifically asked them to do so.

JPSDK · « **Reply #68 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:17 »

Facts are that they sold my pictures 8 months after I deleted them.
Thats a fact, friends.

Dont wrap it up in excuses and conditions.

It IS foul play.

Ron · « **Reply #69 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:18 »

Quote from: JPSDK on January 28, 2014, 12:08

Quote from: Ron on January 28, 2014, 12:02
Deactivating is not the same as deleting. As far as I know you cant delete images, only deactivate. If you can still login, your account wasnt removed either. Maybe your loboroach image picked up 8 sales.
I dont think so. If I deactivate or delete it is the sAME. is may have ways of their own, but thats is not important, I pressed the only button there was to delete, I do not remember what it was called.
A company can write many things in a contract, like I hereby mention that all your earnings go to my account. but contracts are not always legal. Laws sometimes overrules contracts. And with Istock , there are many such cases.

It was my swallowtails they spread. Not the cockroach, and they knew exactly what they did. Therefor they should be sued and punished.

BUT.
I knew they were playing a foul game, thats why I left.
It has now been proven in court.
I hope some near the headquarters with an attorney in the family sues them, so their abuse can end.

Its not the same, because deactivated images can be activated again. Delete images are gone. You didnt delete them. Period. Can you still login to your account? If so, your account was active all this time. If you asked your account to be deleted, you would get a banned message when trying to login.

Ron · « **Reply #70 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:19 »

The fact is you DIDNT delete them.

JPSDK · « **Reply #71 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:30 »

So you can have a company that uses the word "deactivate" so they can abuse your copyright.
That is where the law overules contracts.

What Is does is illegal. No matter what sort of contract you produce, it should still be legal.
It compares to a killing contract in a spy movie: "If you kill him you are free." It is not legal, you cannot make that kind of contracts.

Isnt it obvious, or are you going to debate it?

As I said before, there are 10 million lawsuits agains Istock, and they would loose most of them.

Reminds me. That would actually be the way to kill Is, and if somebody ask, Im in.

Ron · « **Reply #72 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:33 »

What part of deactivation is not the same as deleting do you not grasp?

Can you login to IS, yes or no? You avoid that question, and I think you are still able to log in. That means you DID NOT delete your account.

JPSDK · « **Reply #73 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:37 »

Quote from: Ron on January 28, 2014, 12:33

What part of deactivation is not the same as deleting do you not grasp?

Can you login to IS, yes or no? You avoid that question, and I think you are still able to log in. That means you DID NOT delete your account.

I can log in to my account. I have not deleted my account and one image. i will not deny that they can sell that image.

Still I repeat my answer above.

ShadySue · « **Reply #74 on:** January 28, 2014, 12:37 »

Quote from: JPSDK on January 28, 2014, 12:30

So you can have a company that uses the word "deactivate" so they can abuse your copyright.

You deactivated your images from the site istockphoto.
You did not ask for your files to be totally removed from the partner sites.
You can't expect the computers on different sites to be able to read your mind.
I can see that you're angry because you didn't realise this, and I probably would have missed this too (if it had applied, I'm not in the PP), but that doesn't mean iS have acted illegally or even, in this specific, immorally.

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