My first sale after the outage -- 7 effin cents!!!

Let's see ... considering the volume effect ... ten images would be .... 70 cents.   Don't you just love capitalism?   

Maybe it will be good enough for transfer to Thinkstock.   

Mine was 24.87 if that's any consolation  (XL E+)

Why are people still with this agency, I dont get it. Honestly. If its such an evil agency and stealing bastids, why are people still contributing? There must be something I am missing.

Quote from: Poncke on September 06, 2012, 15:39
Why are people still with this agency, I dont get it. Honestly. If its such an evil agency and stealing bastids, why are people still contributing? There must be something I am missing.

Because you're still averaging 5$ or so for max sized DL. Contrary to mid tier sites where you don't even get half of that on average, 123RF being the worst of them all, usually below 2$. On top of higher commissions, the volume of sales is dozens of times higher at IS for most.

Quote from: Poncke on September 06, 2012, 15:39
Why are people still with this agency, I dont get it. Honestly. If its such an evil agency and stealing bastids, why are people still contributing? There must be something I am missing.

Read the post above yours.   

Quote from: stan on September 06, 2012, 15:44

Quote from: Poncke on September 06, 2012, 15:39
Why are people still with this agency, I dont get it. Honestly. If its such an evil agency and stealing bastids, why are people still contributing? There must be something I am missing.

Because you're still averaging 5$ or so for max sized DL. Contrary to mid tier sites where you don't even get half of that on average, 123RF being the worst of them all, usually below 2$. On top of higher commissions, the volume of sales is dozens of times higher at IS for most.

Hmmm. From what I read here, the 'volume' at SS is much greater.

My first sale after the outage was a L E+ for $20+.

Quote from: thesentinel on September 06, 2012, 15:38
Mine was 24.87 if that's any consolation  (XL E+)

Exactly the kind of money I get for a sale. Was that 7 cents a XS sale, a thinkstock sub sale?

Quote from: Vonkara on September 06, 2012, 15:47

Quote from: thesentinel on September 06, 2012, 15:38
Mine was 24.87 if that's any consolation  (XL E+)

Exactly the kind of money I get for a sale. Was that 7 cents a XS sale, a thinkstock sub sale?

Thinkstock sales are only recorded once a month, approximately midmonth.

Quote from: ShadySue on September 06, 2012, 15:48

Quote from: Vonkara on September 06, 2012, 15:47

Quote from: thesentinel on September 06, 2012, 15:38
Mine was 24.87 if that's any consolation  (XL E+)

Exactly the kind of money I get for a sale. Was that 7 cents a XS sale, a thinkstock sub sale?

Thinkstock sales are only recorded once a month, approximately midmonth.

K thanks, I'm opted out, I never experienced it. Seeing the best match sort on IS, I'm surprised they even get a buyer going further than the 5th page to download a non exclusive image. I don't know how is it possible to get .07 my lowest for a XS is close to .70

Quote from: Vonkara on September 06, 2012, 15:47

Quote from: thesentinel on September 06, 2012, 15:38
Mine was 24.87 if that's any consolation  (XL E+)

Exactly the kind of money I get for a sale. Was that 7 cents a XS sale, a thinkstock sub sale?

No idea???  I checked stats with DeepMeta and found that my "measuring cups" sold for seven cents.  I don't know enough about iS to find what size it was?

Quote from: stan on September 06, 2012, 15:44

Quote from: Poncke on September 06, 2012, 15:39
Why are people still with this agency, I dont get it. Honestly. If its such an evil agency and stealing bastids, why are people still contributing? There must be something I am missing.

Because you're still averaging 5$ or so for max sized DL. Contrary to mid tier sites where you don't even get half of that on average, 123RF being the worst of them all, usually below 2$. On top of higher commissions, the volume of sales is dozens of times higher at IS for most.

Ok, but from what I read on the forum here, there is little to nothing people mention is positive about IS and the comments on how bad they treat the tog and the ricidulous low commission are plenty.

I thought about submitting to them, but I am happy now that I failed their test. It would annoy me to death dealing with them.

Quote from: WarrenPrice on September 06, 2012, 15:53

Quote from: Vonkara on September 06, 2012, 15:47

Quote from: thesentinel on September 06, 2012, 15:38
Mine was 24.87 if that's any consolation  (XL E+)

Exactly the kind of money I get for a sale. Was that 7 cents a XS sale, a thinkstock sub sale?

No idea???  I checked stats with DeepMeta and found that my "measuring cups" sold for seven cents.  I don't know enough about iS to find what size it was?

!!! And clearly you don't care either!
My Uploads, now reached via two more clicks since the relaunch
(My Account (bottom left) > Contributor tools > My Uploads > 'Last DL' column.
(Click Last DL column if the file downloaded today isn't the one at the top).
Click on the number under DLs and you'll get a page that shows stats like this:

Date (DD/MM/YYYY)            Size            License    Royalty
05/09/2012 3:20 AM MDT    Large    Regular    $5.55 USD

(Yeah,that's my last dl.  )

Quote from: WarrenPrice on September 06, 2012, 15:30
My first sale after the outage -- 7 effin cents!!!

Let's see ... considering the volume effect ... ten images would be .... 70 cents.   Don't you just love capitalism?   

Maybe it will be good enough for transfer to Thinkstock.   

According to Sean's calculator, that's a 46c credit (assuming at 15% commission), which is near rock-bottom credit value.
http://seanlockephotography.com/2011/12/20/calculating-price-paid-per-credit

Quote from: ShadySue on September 06, 2012, 15:59
Date (DD/MM/YYYY)            Size            License    Royalty
05/09/2012 3:20 AM MDT    Large    Regular    $5.55 USD

(Yeah,that's my last dl.  )

LOL I got a smaller credit package buyer or something today...

06/09/2012 3:40 AM MDT    Large   Regular   $5.70 USD

Quote from: Vonkara on September 06, 2012, 16:06

Quote from: ShadySue on September 06, 2012, 15:59
Date (DD/MM/YYYY)            Size            License    Royalty
05/09/2012 3:20 AM MDT    Large    Regular    $5.55 USD

(Yeah,that's my last dl.  )

LOL I got a smaller credit package buyer or something today...

06/09/2012 3:40 AM MDT    Large   Regular   $5.70 USD

Could be, I've had larger L payments. But also you could be on a higher %age. My iron pyrites canister belies the fact that I'm on 30%.

Quote from: Poncke on September 06, 2012, 15:58

Quote from: stan on September 06, 2012, 15:44

Quote from: Poncke on September 06, 2012, 15:39
Why are people still with this agency, I dont get it. Honestly. If its such an evil agency and stealing bastids, why are people still contributing? There must be something I am missing.

Because you're still averaging 5$ or so for max sized DL. Contrary to mid tier sites where you don't even get half of that on average, 123RF being the worst of them all, usually below 2$. On top of higher commissions, the volume of sales is dozens of times higher at IS for most.

Ok, but from what I read on the forum here, there is little to nothing people mention is positive about IS and the comments on how bad they treat the tog and the ricidulous low commission are plenty.

Don't worry about what people think, most of them don't use their brains anyway

Despite all problems with the site and negativism IS is still making 50% more $ than SS with same port size around 2000 files (at least in my case).They have best reviewers which makes me believe  that they are still #1 microstock site. I know many of you will disagree but if you want to learn that is the place. If you are good enough for IS than you pass the MS test and you're good to go.

Quote from: stan on September 06, 2012, 15:44

Quote from: Poncke on September 06, 2012, 15:39
Why are people still with this agency, I dont get it. Honestly. If its such an evil agency and stealing bastids, why are people still contributing? There must be something I am missing.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ You miss $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Quote from: ShadySue on September 06, 2012, 15:59

Quote from: WarrenPrice on September 06, 2012, 15:53

Quote from: Vonkara on September 06, 2012, 15:47

Quote from: thesentinel on September 06, 2012, 15:38
Mine was 24.87 if that's any consolation  (XL E+)

Exactly the kind of money I get for a sale. Was that 7 cents a XS sale, a thinkstock sub sale?

No idea???  I checked stats with DeepMeta and found that my "measuring cups" sold for seven cents.  I don't know enough about iS to find what size it was?

!!! And clearly you don't care either!
My Uploads, now reached via two more clicks since the relaunch
(My Account (bottom left) > Contributor tools > My Uploads > 'Last DL' column.
(Click Last DL column if the file downloaded today isn't the one at the top).
Click on the number under DLs and you'll get a page that shows stats like this:

Date (DD/MM/YYYY)            Size            License    Royalty
05/09/2012 3:20 AM MDT    Large    Regular    $5.55 USD

(Yeah,that's my last dl.  )

You got me.   

I do care though, that ANY commission could be that low ... but what good is knowing the details? 
Is there something I could do about it?

Quote from: WarrenPrice on September 06, 2012, 16:48

Quote from: ShadySue on September 06, 2012, 15:59

Quote from: WarrenPrice on September 06, 2012, 15:53

Quote from: Vonkara on September 06, 2012, 15:47

Quote from: thesentinel on September 06, 2012, 15:38
Mine was 24.87 if that's any consolation  (XL E+)

Exactly the kind of money I get for a sale. Was that 7 cents a XS sale, a thinkstock sub sale?

No idea???  I checked stats with DeepMeta and found that my "measuring cups" sold for seven cents.  I don't know enough about iS to find what size it was?

!!! And clearly you don't care either!
My Uploads, now reached via two more clicks since the relaunch
(My Account (bottom left) > Contributor tools > My Uploads > 'Last DL' column.
(Click Last DL column if the file downloaded today isn't the one at the top).
Click on the number under DLs and you'll get a page that shows stats like this:

Date (DD/MM/YYYY)            Size            License    Royalty
05/09/2012 3:20 AM MDT    Large    Regular    $5.55 USD

(Yeah,that's my last dl.  )

You got me.   

I do care though, that ANY commission could be that low ... but what good is knowing the details? 
Is there something I could do about it?

No, unless you chose to leave iS or stop uploading there.
However, you might feel different if you know that it was an XS which earned you 7c, rather than a huge size file for peanuts at e.g. TS or SS. Or you might not. 

Quote from: Poncke on September 06, 2012, 15:39
Why are people still with this agency, I dont get it. Honestly. If its such an evil agency and stealing bastids, why are people still contributing? There must be something I am missing.

IS is paying for my family's health insurance. Unless you would like to step up and pay for them I'm more than happy to drop IS. 

Quote from: alexmk on September 06, 2012, 16:37
Despite all problems with the site and negativism IS is still making 50% more $ than SS with same port size around 2000 files (at least in my case).They have best reviewers which makes me believe  that they are still #1 microstock site. I know many of you will disagree but if you want to learn that is the place. If you are good enough for IS than you pass the MS test and you're good to go.

When I first started out 6 months ago, I failed their test 3 times and then went on to learn photography in the forums at SS and got accepted there. I am with 5 agencies now and figured I would get back to IS at some point but after reading the comments here on MSG over the last few months I dont want to. I cant be bothered by a tedious keywording process (one of the reasons I cant be bothered to increase my port at Alamy) and their ridiculous MR policy. Which by the way would refrain me from uploading loads of photos because I dont have the correct MRs for IS. And their ridiculous low commission. 3 key points for me to avoid IS like the plague.

Quote from: click_click on September 06, 2012, 17:15

Quote from: Poncke on September 06, 2012, 15:39
Why are people still with this agency, I dont get it. Honestly. If its such an evil agency and stealing bastids, why are people still contributing? There must be something I am missing.

IS is paying for my family's health insurance. Unless you would like to step up and pay for them I'm more than happy to drop IS. 

If you make that kind of money, kudos to you, and I understand money is an important factor and for some stock is their main income. So I understand that part of the bargain. It must be Sophies Choice then for many. I dont know if I could take that kind of abuse from an agency. When I reach a point that I am pushed over the edge I will quit whatever job I have. I have done it before and I have done it again recently and I will keep doing that, just for my own happiness. Works for me. 

I'm just posting my frustration.  I can't say that any microstock site is any better or worse than any other.  Far be it from me to convince anyone to accept such cheap rates.  More money for me (and Sean.)   

But, tho critical of the ridiculous seven cent commission, I must admit that my RPD at iS is higher than at my other "Representatives."