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Title: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 16, 2013, 03:36
I joined in IS 2 months ago, there are more than 2800 photos in my portfolio, but just 8 of them been downloaded. I know it need some patient, so I'm waiting and uploading. But two days before, when I got up in the morning and checked my DeepMate, I found my balance become 14$(it increased to 25$ at the end of that day), it's to say I get almostly 20$ in one day, and I found it's from PP not IS, and the number stop raising after that special day. So I have some questions, maybe I can get some help from you.
1、How PP worked? Does I will get more money from PP than IS?
2、If there is any period or how long it's need  to get increase everyday regularly?
3、If the theme of my files are belong to those who are hardly to be sold. If there are any problems of my files?
4、If the passing rage is to high in IS? many of my photos have been rejected in other sites, like DT,SS,Fotolia.
5、I'm really want to know what I should do, if I want to be a freelance photographer.

I'm a totally fresh photographer and I just joined in microphoto market less than 1 year. It's hard for me to find a right way to go, because I have no teacher or friends can tell me how to do that, as beginning I even don't know where to find the microstock site and how to sale, I do these step by step, day by day by my ownself, stockphotographer is a rare occupation and the photographer is treated as a strange occupation in traditional concept in some way in China. But my goal is to be a freelance photographer,and I think the camera can help me to get my dream.

my mailbox:
[email protected]
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: ShadySue on November 16, 2013, 04:30
Unfortunately, you joined iS at a bad time.
New files are mostly being sunk like stones in the Best Match (slightly less fast this past week!), whereas previously they'd get some 'time in the sun' at the top of the search then sink (faster or more gradually) down. Also, the best match algorithm was switched pretty often. In fact, last weekend there was a seismic best match shift, but by late Monday it was back to what it's been for over a year.
In addition, there's the 'curse of the download', whereupon a file getting between 1-9 (some say 1-10) downloads is downshifted even more in the best match.

Personal anecdotes:
Following on a sale yesterday, I checked through and found that it's a search of only 92 files, of a very, and disappointingly low-selling subject.
I have the top three sellers (9, 5, 5), I switched to best match, and out of 92 files, my two with 5 are 91 and 92; the top seller is at 88, with another of mine with 3 at 89. Two of mine with 0 sales are higher.
Technically, it's not so important in a search result of 92, as the buyer may well have set to 100 per page, so look at them all, but in a search of thousands, that is significant.

Of my last 20 sales, the pattern is almost the same as the last time I checked.
6 from 2007
6 from 2008
1 from 2009, no previous sale
1 from 2010, no previous sale
3 from 2011, all editorials
3 from 2012, all editorial
0 from 2013.
NB: there is a slight natural bias in my port towards 2008 at this time, because almost all of my 'seasonal' images and isolations were done that year. Also my uploading is well down this year, as the issues noted above started in late September 2012 and it hardly seemed worth uploading under these cirecumstances.
Having talked about the curse of fewer than 10 dls in best match, 14 of my last 20 have <10 dls, but these are generally low-supply subjects.

If you look at the threads here and on iStock about the PP, many people are reporting good sales there in September and October.

Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Jetsetter78 on November 16, 2013, 04:31
What is PP?
I joined Istock not long ago as a illustrator, my sales/ downloads are not increasing daily, but earnings/payments are increasing alot dramatically.
Not too sure how Istock payment works , perhaps it is the "PP" you mentioned.

You have nice portfolio, but i personally think the commercial value is limited. You should shoot more themes.

Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: ShadySue on November 16, 2013, 04:32
What is PP?
Partner Program: Thinkstock and Photos.com, to which iStock's top buyers are being pushed (by iStock).
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Jetsetter78 on November 16, 2013, 04:44

I been wondering where i got my sales from, now i know.
Thanks you.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: gostwyck on November 16, 2013, 06:08
3、If the theme of my files are belong to those who are hardly to be sold. If there are any problems of my files?

Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales. You need to understand the market for stock images before you can produce for it. Before you compose your shot you need to consider who will buy it and what will they use it for.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: ACS on November 16, 2013, 06:58
Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales.

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 16, 2013, 07:29
3、If the theme of my files are belong to those who are hardly to be sold. If there are any problems of my files?

Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales. You need to understand the market for stock images before you can produce for it. Before you compose your shot you need to consider who will buy it and what will they use it for.

Yep.  Plan ahead, not just walk around.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: KB on November 16, 2013, 18:43
Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales.

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!
Surprising isn't the word I would have used. But it is ironic how they have gone from having arguably the strictest QC to being among the most lax, in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 16, 2013, 19:41
Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales.

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!
It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. 
My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 16, 2013, 19:48
Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales.

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!
It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. 
My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it.

believe you need to contact iStock not the "snapshoters", much easier as well, oh maybe not ;D
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Spray and Pray on November 16, 2013, 21:12
"It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it."

as politician I would have worded it more like-

"Due to the easing of the standards on iStock there are more photos being accepted that really don't produce a high commercial value therefore, will be difficult to sell"

Why cut the person's head off? They will get it (via lack of sales on a large amount of images) and make the changes if they want more income. Enough said- time to move on...

Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 16, 2013, 21:34
"It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it."

as politician I would have worded it more like-

"Due to the easing of the standards on iStock there are more photos being accepted that really don't produce a high commercial value therefore, will be difficult to sell"

Why cut the person's head off? They will get it (via lack of sales on a large amount of images) and make the changes if they want more income. Enough said- time to move on...

this doesn't deserve a minus
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Snufkin on November 16, 2013, 21:49
It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. 
My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it.


I think your comment is out of line.
1. The photographer supplies the kind of pictures that iStock now wants to see. What's your problem? Are you afraid of competing with "snapshots"?
Haven't you heard that iStock is THE place for professionals?

IS have big plans for their collection. They will now be able to compete with Mostphotos or flood Google Drive.
Resistance is futile :)

2. CaptainYoung's photos are not bad. The compositions are generally quite OK, e.g. this one is quite nice:
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-29311448-the-road-in-bamboo-forest.php (http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-29311448-the-road-in-bamboo-forest.php)
The main issues are: too many nearly identical photos, the light and colours are not so good and the subject matter which is not popular in microstock.

Do you remember the Galapagos series that was accepted some time ago? Compared to that photographer CaptainYoung is a true master of photography.

Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Snufkin on November 16, 2013, 21:51

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!

Man, it's not a U-turn, it's called paradigm shift.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 16, 2013, 21:58
"It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it."

as politician I would have worded it more like-

"Due to the easing of the standards on iStock there are more photos being accepted that really don't produce a high commercial value therefore, will be difficult to sell"

Why cut the person's head off? They will get it (via lack of sales on a large amount of images) and make the changes if they want more income. Enough said- time to move on...
I prefer my direct and honest words.  The truth is that many "photographers" which have been accepted during the last months, would have never been accepted at iStock before the easing of standars.  I guess nowadays they are accepting anyone.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: ShadySue on November 16, 2013, 22:01
Do you remember the Galapagos series that was accepted some time ago? Compared to that photographer CaptainYoung is a true master of photography.
Missed the series you're talking about, unless its a series of photos of a Green Iguana, which don't occur in Galapagos. The series is generally badly keyworded, like most stuff accepted recently.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 16, 2013, 22:03
what you are saying isn't wrong but you haven't found the "best" way of expressing it

1 year ago (or more) instead of 2800 pictures accepted he would have got 280 instead, there are quite a few overexposed and tons of very similar pictures
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Snufkin on November 16, 2013, 22:03

I am very holpfully to get some help from you, and I want to make friends with you!!!!


CaptainYoung, here are a few tips from me:

1. Istock is no longer the site it used to be a couple years ago. Download numbers are much lower and the royalties for independent photographers have been cut. Don't expect good performance from iStock and you will not be dissapointed.

2. As others mentioned this kind of subject matter doesn't make much money in microstock.
If you describe the locations very exactly, Alamy might be worth trying. But you need a lot of patience with Alamy.

3. If you shoot landscapes, do a search on istock for "landscape" and sort by the number of downloads.
Then you will see what kind of landscape photos do sell in microstock.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Snufkin on November 16, 2013, 22:11
Do you remember the Galapagos series that was accepted some time ago? Compared to that photographer CaptainYoung is a true master of photography.
Missed the series you're talking about
Sean bought 1 pic from that series for his blog. It was shot by a guy who titles a photo "England" and in the description writes "Edinburgh" :).

Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 16, 2013, 22:12
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Spray and Pray on November 16, 2013, 22:14
No minus given just stated that is could have been written in a more polished way - far too blunt in my eyes that's all.   But, overall I am sure they got the tips on why their sales are low- thus taking home some positive notes things.   
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Spray and Pray on November 16, 2013, 22:17
Does anyone want to explain what exclusive is to them lol!  :-\

Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 16, 2013, 22:20
I can't stop laughing ;D
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Spray and Pray on November 16, 2013, 22:35
when will they learn- this place is home of the Micro-stock Detectives!  Once again another one is so busted!  ;)

Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: lisafx on November 16, 2013, 23:14
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D

The OP who has 2800 pictures on Istock is exclusive at DT?  Or somebody else?  Not sure who you're referring to here...
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 16, 2013, 23:23
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D


The OP who has 2800 pictures on Istock is exclusive at DT?  Or somebody else?  Not sure who you're referring to here...

The OP: http://www.dreamstime.com/cqyoung_info (http://www.dreamstime.com/cqyoung_info)
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on November 16, 2013, 23:24
I looked at a few images and it does seem it's the same person

http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-27538551-nyang-river.php (http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-27538551-nyang-river.php)

http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-nyang-river-nyingchi-tibet-chia-image33858476 (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-nyang-river-nyingchi-tibet-chia-image33858476)
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 16, 2013, 23:27
I looked at a few images and it does seem it's the same person

[url]http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-27538551-nyang-river.php[/url] ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-27538551-nyang-river.php[/url])

[url]http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-nyang-river-nyingchi-tibet-chia-image33858476[/url] ([url]http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-nyang-river-nyingchi-tibet-chia-image33858476[/url])

No doubt he is the same person. 
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-28915732-golden-deer.php?st=9913d41 (http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-28915732-golden-deer.php?st=9913d41)
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photo-golden-deer-famous-temple-tibetan-buddhism-culture-image34735905 (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photo-golden-deer-famous-temple-tibetan-buddhism-culture-image34735905)
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: sobm on November 16, 2013, 23:36
sorry, i have to say those you uploading are just used to fill the gap for IS..if you uploaded those 2 years ago, those will get a lot rejected, seriously  :-\
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Snufkin on November 17, 2013, 00:03
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D

Apparently he has been yuriarcurs'ed at DT. Good for him. :)
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 17, 2013, 00:05
Captain Young (Qiyang Chen), here is another tip from me:
-You have an exclusive agreement with Dreamtime.  You should upload all your snapshots to Dreamstime only. 
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 17, 2013, 00:29
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D

It's true~ Because I started mircophoto site at DT first. At that time I don't know anything~~~ So, I applied to be exclusive at DT. But now, I am prepring to cancle it as soon as possibble~~~~~~~~

that's a big mistake~~~~~~~

And thanks everbody!
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 17, 2013, 00:51
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D

It's true~ Because I started mircophoto site at DT first. At that time I don't know anything~~~ So, I applied to be exclusive at DT. But now, I am prepring to cancle it as soon as possibble~~~~~~~~

that's a big mistake~~~~~~~

And thanks everbody!
You have broken your Exclusivity Agreement with Dreamstime.  Did you know that Dreamstime will probably invalidate and recover all earnings you've made so far?  I guess it's not much, but anyway... 
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 17, 2013, 01:15
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Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 17, 2013, 03:46
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D

It's true~ Because I started mircophoto site at DT first. At that time I don't know anything~~~ So, I applied to be exclusive at DT. But now, I am prepring to cancle it as soon as possibble~~~~~~~~

that's a big mistake~~~~~~~

And thanks everbody!
You have broken your Exclusivity Agreement with Dreamstime.  Did you know that Dreamstime will probably invalidate and recover all earnings you've made so far?  I guess it's not much, but anyway...

Yes~~~But this is a truely mistake~~~I think it's the only way to solve it....
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 17, 2013, 04:03
Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales.

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!
It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. 
My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it.

I know most of my files is not suitable to uploaded, what I do is just for trial, if I don't try, how could I know what should I do?
I also know the commercial photo is totally different from mine, so what I am doing is just try my best to find the key to success.
And most you know I am not a snapshoters, I want to be a real excellent one.
Thanks your criticism, it make me unconfortable in a way, but it's true.... I will keep learning to make something better.
Glad to know you!
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 17, 2013, 04:08
It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. 
My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it.


I think your comment is out of line.
1. The photographer supplies the kind of pictures that iStock now wants to see. What's your problem? Are you afraid of competing with "snapshots"?
Haven't you heard that iStock is THE place for professionals?

IS have big plans for their collection. They will now be able to compete with Mostphotos or flood Google Drive.
Resistance is futile :)

2. CaptainYoung's photos are not bad. The compositions are generally quite OK, e.g. this one is quite nice:
[url]http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-29311448-the-road-in-bamboo-forest.php[/url] ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-29311448-the-road-in-bamboo-forest.php[/url])
The main issues are: too many nearly identical photos, the light and colours are not so good and the subject matter which is not popular in microstock.

Do you remember the Galapagos series that was accepted some time ago? Compared to that photographer CaptainYoung is a true master of photography.


thank you, I will do it better....
glad to know you! :)
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 17, 2013, 04:15

I am very holpfully to get some help from you, and I want to make friends with you!!!!


CaptainYoung, here are a few tips from me:

1. Istock is no longer the site it used to be a couple years ago. Download numbers are much lower and the royalties for independent photographers have been cut. Don't expect good performance from iStock and you will not be dissapointed.

2. As others mentioned this kind of subject matter doesn't make much money in microstock.
If you describe the locations very exactly, Alamy might be worth trying. But you need a lot of patience with Alamy.

3. If you shoot landscapes, do a search on istock for "landscape" and sort by the number of downloads.
Then you will see what kind of landscape photos do sell in microstock.

Thanks for your advices, I will do it better.
Alamy is micro or macro? It has more than 40M photos?
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 17, 2013, 04:21
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D

Oh...Your found it.... :o
I am appling to cancel it.....
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 17, 2013, 04:25
sorry, i have to say those you uploading are just used to fill the gap for IS..if you uploaded those 2 years ago, those will get a lot rejected, seriously  :-\

That's my question... I found it's too easy to upload, It seems like there is a very very high successe rate in IS
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: ShadySue on November 17, 2013, 07:26
Do you remember the Galapagos series that was accepted some time ago? Compared to that photographer CaptainYoung is a true master of photography.
Missed the series you're talking about
Sean bought 1 pic from that series for his blog. It was shot by a guy who titles a photo "England" and in the description writes "Edinburgh" :).
Oh, I forgot he had some from Galapagos.  :(
But hey, don't knock him  ::)! His first file was uploaded on 5th June, he has an 80% acceptance rate and 7 sales.

Oh sh*t. Does nothing work over on iS any more? Not only have I been logged out three times in 15mins, I went to that person's port then 'narrowed my results' to Galapagos and thought, "Oh, these aren't bad at all, except for some spam", then saw that although his name is still at the top of the page ("Portfolio X") the results are all iS files tagged Galapagos.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: drd on November 17, 2013, 08:15
There is even 'better'... search for Battersea Power Station. The newest ~200 images by the same contributor are a series of the same or similar views but with different photo effects: normal, vintage ...b/w. I wonder which photo effect is coming next?
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 17, 2013, 08:29
Do you remember the Galapagos series that was accepted some time ago? Compared to that photographer CaptainYoung is a true master of photography.
Missed the series you're talking about
Sean bought 1 pic from that series for his blog. It was shot by a guy who titles a photo "England" and in the description writes "Edinburgh" :).
Oh, I forgot he had some from Galapagos.  :(
But hey, don't knock him  ::)! His first file was uploaded on 5th June, he has an 80% acceptance rate and 7 sales.

Oh sh*t. Does nothing work over on iS any more? Not only have I been logged out three times in 15mins, I went to that person's port then 'narrowed my results' to Galapagos and thought, "Oh, these aren't bad at all, except for some spam", then saw that although his name is still at the top of the page ("Portfolio X") the results are all iS files tagged Galapagos.

maybe I find that gay you talking about........ the IG series are really amazing~~~ :-\ :-\ :-\
and if you get in there just after get up?  ;D
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: CaptainYoung on November 17, 2013, 08:37
There is even 'better'... search for Battersea Power Station. The newest ~200 images by the same contributor are a series of the same or similar views but with different photo effects: normal, vintage ...b/w. I wonder which photo effect is coming next?

So, what  happen in IS? I'm very doubt that whether the IS is becoming a site like Flikr or something? QC is already inexistenced?
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 17, 2013, 08:38
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D

Apparently he has been yuriarcurs'ed at DT. Good for him. :)

over 6 months!
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: ShadySue on November 17, 2013, 08:57
So, what  happen in IS? I'm very doubt that whether the IS is becoming a site like Flikr or something? QC is already inexistenced?
They're up to 'something', and it won't be something good for contributors.
Their standards used to be extremely high (arguably far too high) and now almost anything goes. At the same time, they're allowing everyone to upload 999 images per week (it was 15 when I joined and sometimes it went down to 10pw if the queue was too long), yet they're doing almost everything possible to prevent new files from being seen (there is a 'newest' search sort, but as they have more or less done away with keyword inspection, other than Keywordzilla, almost all searches by newest are really horrible, contaminated by dreadful spamming, so a buyer would in most cases try another search method, if they didn't leave the site altogether.

Makes no logical sense, and your speculation of what they're up to is as valid as mine.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 17, 2013, 10:34
guys this gets even better, he is exclusive at DT ;D ;D ;D

It's true~ Because I started mircophoto site at DT first. At that time I don't know anything~~~ So, I applied to be exclusive at DT. But now, I am prepring to cancle it as soon as possibble~~~~~~~~

that's a big mistake~~~~~~~

And thanks everbody!
You have broken your Exclusivity Agreement with Dreamstime.  Did you know that Dreamstime will probably invalidate and recover all earnings you've made so far?  I guess it's not much, but anyway...

Yes~~~But this is a truely mistake~~~I think it's the only way to solve it....
Honestly, I don't see how it can be a mistake.  You knew you were exclusive.  You just thought nobody would find out what you were doing.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: KB on November 17, 2013, 11:07
There is even 'better'... search for Battersea Power Station. The newest ~200 images by the same contributor are a series of the same or similar views but with different photo effects: normal, vintage ...b/w. I wonder which photo effect is coming next?
This is really off topic, but I've got to applaud this contributor. They have an extremely varied port (ignoring all the variations of the Battersea Power Station), and have uploaded a HUGE number of photos in a very short time. In fact, I had to go back over 1000 of their newest ULs (all done within about a week's time) to find the most recently UL'd file that has sold. That's a lot of work and persistence without any positive reinforcement. I'd guess all of these were previously rejected files that they had been able to UL elsewhere but not IS, and now that IS is allowing almost everything ....
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 17, 2013, 11:46
Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales.

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!
It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. 
My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it.

I know most of my files is not suitable to uploaded, what I do is just for trial, if I don't try, how could I know what should I do?
I also know the commercial photo is totally different from mine, so what I am doing is just try my best to find the key to success.
And most you know I am not a snapshoters, I want to be a real excellent one.
Thanks your criticism, it make me unconfortable in a way, but it's true.... I will keep learning to make something better.
Glad to know you!
Maybe I was lucky to join iStock when there were uploading limits and very high standars.  I quickly got used to be very picky about what to upload.  iStock's high standards are now gone but I keep uploading only my best work.  And the result is now I have a very profitable portfolio.

I know my words might have been unpleasant for some people. But they were honest and you know it.   Your current portfolio will not help you reach any dream.  It will rather bring you poor reputation.  Clean it, keep only your best images, plan your shots, and very important: Honor your exclusivity agreements.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Spray and Pray on November 17, 2013, 11:47
Just make sure that when the Captain joins Alamy he doesn't mark them as 'RM'- of course it was a mistake if he does make them for RM- Honest!  ;D
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: heywoody on November 17, 2013, 12:36
Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales.

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!
It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. 
My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it.

What credentials does someone who is anonymous have to call someone else's images crappy?  This comment is completely out of order - if you have a problem with the acceptance criteria at IS, blame it on IS, not the contributor.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 17, 2013, 13:02
Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales.

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!
It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. 
My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it.

I know most of my files is not suitable to uploaded, what I do is just for trial, if I don't try, how could I know what should I do?
I also know the commercial photo is totally different from mine, so what I am doing is just try my best to find the key to success.
And most you know I am not a snapshoters, I want to be a real excellent one.
Thanks your criticism, it make me unconfortable in a way, but it's true.... I will keep learning to make something better.
Glad to know you!
Maybe I was lucky to join iStock when there were uploading limits and very high standars.  I quickly got used to be very picky about what to upload.  iStock's high standards are now gone but I keep uploading only my best work.  And the result is now I have a very profitable portfolio.

I know my words might have been unpleasant for some people. But they were honest and you know it.   Your current portfolio will not help you reach any dream.  It will rather bring you poor reputation.  Clean it, keep only your best images, plan your shots, and very important: Honor your exclusivity agreements.

I agree with everything, the last bit I laughed sorry, an exclusive defending and honoring his contract with iStock is ridiculous looking at all the latest special deals, sure you can/should but don't say it with so much love, its like eating an ice cream with your forehead ;D
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: Digital66 on November 17, 2013, 14:19
Your images are simply not stock-oriented. Nature images tend to be high in supply and low in demand and only the very best (and luckiest) will make worthwhile sales.

Isn't it surprising IS accepted all those images? What a U turn!
It's ridiculous! This is what happen when there are no upload limits and no QC.  Personally, I'm sick of all these new snapshoters flooding iStock with their big portfolios full of crappy images. 
My advice to any fresher:  Stop flooding the site with all your snapshots!!!You are not going anywhere doing it.

I know most of my files is not suitable to uploaded, what I do is just for trial, if I don't try, how could I know what should I do?
I also know the commercial photo is totally different from mine, so what I am doing is just try my best to find the key to success.
And most you know I am not a snapshoters, I want to be a real excellent one.
Thanks your criticism, it make me unconfortable in a way, but it's true.... I will keep learning to make something better.
Glad to know you!
Maybe I was lucky to join iStock when there were uploading limits and very high standars.  I quickly got used to be very picky about what to upload.  iStock's high standards are now gone but I keep uploading only my best work.  And the result is now I have a very profitable portfolio.

I know my words might have been unpleasant for some people. But they were honest and you know it.   Your current portfolio will not help you reach any dream.  It will rather bring you poor reputation.  Clean it, keep only your best images, plan your shots, and very important: Honor your exclusivity agreements.

I agree with everything, the last bit I laughed sorry, an exclusive defending and honoring his contract with iStock is ridiculous looking at all the latest special deals, sure you can/should but don't say it with so much love, its like eating an ice cream with your forehead ;D
Honor is a rare thing these days...  Well, in spite of all iStock has done, I still believe exclusives should respect their exclusivity agreement.
And anyway, CaptainYoung's exclusivity agreement is with Dreamstime, not iStock.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 17, 2013, 14:30
And anyway, CaptainYoung's exclusivity agreement is with Dreamstime, not iStock.

really? guess I was the guy who found that out :D
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: DonLand on November 17, 2013, 15:08
Reason why he was able to upload so many in such a short period of time is lack of judicious Titles, Descriptions and Keywords. They appear to be just batched with inappropriate keywords and a lack of words as far as title and descriptions are concerned.
I know when I upload to IS after any of the others I catch some misplaced keywords myself. That being said, once images are captioned etc. I can upload hundreds easily to other sites and it takes days to upload the same images to IS because of all the key wording and categories etc.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: elvinstar on November 17, 2013, 20:06
Based upon the postings here and the Chinese location of some of the subject matter, I wonder if Captain Young didn't understand what exclusivity was? Just a possibility.
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 17, 2013, 20:08
Based upon the postings here and the Chinese location of some of the subject matter, I wonder if Captain Young didn't understand what exclusivity was? Just a possibility.

he did but forgot ;D
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: lisafx on November 17, 2013, 20:48
And anyway, CaptainYoung's exclusivity agreement is with Dreamstime, not iStock.

really? guess I was the guy who found that out :D

You Da Man Luis :D
Title: Re: Some questions from a fresher
Post by: luissantos84 on November 17, 2013, 20:51
And anyway, CaptainYoung's exclusivity agreement is with Dreamstime, not iStock.

really? guess I was the guy who found that out :D

You Da Man Luis :D

ahah some agency could hire me to do this stuff ;D