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rubyroo

« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2010, 06:14 »
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It's amazing to think of that isn't it?  If those prices were still operative in the microstock model... we'd all be such happy bunnies  ;D


« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2010, 16:03 »
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Companies are often successful in spite of their management.  Problem is that they believe they're successful because of their management.  Or the conditions which made them successful change, and they don't adapt.  Or both.

Years ago, management consultants Tom Peters and Robert Waterman wrote a bestselling book called In Search of Excellence.  They analyzed a number of large companies with a long track record of success, looking for common threads.  They found them, and preached what they found.  Some years later Peters looked at those excellent companies and found something interesting: that some were still successful, some were on the decline and some were gone completely.  Turns out that identifying successful companies was find for understanding the past but no guide to the future.

And so it will likely be for iStockphoto.  Looking back in a year or two years, we may be able to identify their decline as beginning in September, 2010.  Or not, but I know which way I'd be willing to bet.  As the financial services companies always say (but we rarely listen), past performance is no indicator of future results.

lisafx

« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2010, 16:16 »
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Companies are often successful in spite of their management.  Problem is that they believe they're successful because of their management.  Or the conditions which made them successful change, and they don't adapt.  Or both.

Years ago, management consultants Tom Peters and Robert Waterman wrote a bestselling book called In Search of Excellence.  They analyzed a number of large companies with a long track record of success, looking for common threads.  They found them, and preached what they found.  Some years later Peters looked at those excellent companies and found something interesting: that some were still successful, some were on the decline and some were gone completely.  Turns out that identifying successful companies was find for understanding the past but no guide to the future.

And so it will likely be for iStockphoto.  Looking back in a year or two years, we may be able to identify their decline as beginning in September, 2010.  Or not, but I know which way I'd be willing to bet.  As the financial services companies always say (but we rarely listen), past performance is no indicator of future results.

Very interesting thoughts Harris.  Seems like lots of large corporations are like Icarus - they fly too close to the sun and then fall to their deaths.  Or as my grandmother would have said "they got too big for their britches"  ;D

« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2010, 17:28 »
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It's amazing to think of that isn't it?  If those prices were still operative in the microstock model... we'd all be such happy bunnies  ;D

But then it wouldn't be microstock, would it? $300 sounds more like macrostock to me. LOL

rubyroo

« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2010, 17:33 »
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 :D

I made that sound as though they once were operative in the microstock model, didn't I?!  LOL

RT


« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2010, 04:11 »
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Companies are often successful in spite of their management.  Problem is that they believe they're successful because of their management. 

Very true

lagereek

« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2010, 04:28 »
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Companies are often successful in spite of their management.  Problem is that they believe they're successful because of their management. 

Very true

Some time ago there was a British survey, examining the top 20 CEOs in the top 20 most successful Corps in the world. Result was that the overpaid management had not really done a * thing exept just "being there" axing employers and just basically scaring the crap out of people.
Well I suppose thats one way of being effective, isnt it?

« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2010, 04:43 »
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This years Ig Nobel Prize winner:
Management: Alessandro Pluchino, Andrea Rapisarda, and Cesare Garofalo of the University of Catania, Italy, for demonstrating mathematically that organizations would become more efficient if they promoted people at random.[121]

« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2010, 06:57 »
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I know we've only had the first week of October but my sales at IS are dire. At this rate I'm projected to be 19% down on September and a bewildering 35% down on Oct 2009. Ouch.

As a proportion of total income IS are now down to 29% with SS surging ahead at 32%. PPD sales at SS are continuing to grow strongly and now represent 28% of my income there __ last October they were just 18%.

My data suggests that things are happening and market shares between agencies are slowly changing.

molka

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« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2010, 07:47 »
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Makes me wonder if any of the other exclusivity programs make sense.
Why don't SS have exclusivity ?? they can easly hurt many competing MS sites like this.

Exclusivity has been pointless in micrstock for quite some time now, it's just that these sites got kinda big and really slow to react... but it's starting now.

« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2010, 07:56 »
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I do agree that ISocks customer base is starting to look elsewhere, that is if my Shutterstock and other top tier Agencies earnings of late are anything to go by. Have noticed a big surge not so much in Subs but On Demand and ELs at SS and single purchases at Dreamstime and Fotolia which compensates for what we know is around the corner at IS  ;)

ShadySue

« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2010, 10:17 »
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I know we've only had the first week of October but my sales at IS are dire.
I'm IS exclusive, but after a good September - $$ well up on Sept 09 if not downloads, this week has been pretty poor. Well below Oct 09 in dls and $$$ . ???
Misery loves company. 

« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2010, 15:19 »
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our 2c's.

sep 2010 was great! BME, october down 5% since sep but we are still optimistic :)

« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2010, 15:34 »
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So far, Octuber is on par with a great September. But maybe it could (should) be better. Just beats Sept in Vettas.

« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2010, 16:03 »
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Exclusivity has been pointless in micrstock for quite some time now, it's just that these sites got kinda big and really slow to react... but it's starting now.

Gosh, thank goodness you came around to point this out with your excellent reasoning for stating so.  I may change my working paradigm now.

molka

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« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2010, 18:04 »
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Exclusivity has been pointless in micrstock for quite some time now, it's just that these sites got kinda big and really slow to react... but it's starting now.

Gosh, thank goodness you came around to point this out with your excellent reasoning for stating so.  I may change my working paradigm now.

There wasn't reasoning, it was a simple statement. In short: content got way too generic. You are a smart boy, you can figure out how and why that makes it useless... since they can't just throw it away, they arrange things so they don't have to pay any notable benefits for it. Familiar?

lisafx

« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2010, 18:07 »
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Exclusivity has been pointless in micrstock for quite some time now, it's just that these sites got kinda big and really slow to react... but it's starting now.

Gosh, thank goodness you came around to point this out with your excellent reasoning for stating so.  I may change my working paradigm now.

There wasn't reasoning, it was a simple statement.

At least he admits it ;D

molka

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« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2010, 18:26 »
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Exclusivity has been pointless in micrstock for quite some time now, it's just that these sites got kinda big and really slow to react... but it's starting now.

Gosh, thank goodness you came around to point this out with your excellent reasoning for stating so.  I may change my working paradigm now.

There wasn't reasoning, it was a simple statement.

At least he admits it ;D

You are both really good at pointing out the obviuos : )) Okay now... I didn't come here with the intention of being mean to you, I do find the way they are treating you dispicable, but I just can't talk about this without pointing out that you did a lot to bring this on yourselves. and right now, you just sit around an take it... or rather have go at me than the people who actually took a nice big sh*t in your lap. Yeah that's reasonable. All you should have done is deactivte your files, non destructive, undoable. When your elders went about making this world a more livable place, they had to fabricate signs, get to the streets and risk getting beaten up by the police, jailed, loosing their jobs, you name it... you just needed clicking around and you couldn't even do that. Shame on you, really.

« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2010, 19:03 »
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It is always sad to see someone trying to put the blame of his failure on others. Shame on who? On the macrostock shooters that cut off assignement works? Deactivate, what? That's a personal decision based on financial figures.

Luckily, microstockers have learnt the hard way. With a few exceptions, we don't need the bigger studios, the latests expensive gadgets, five assistants, two stylists, two make up artists and one guy to change a lightbulb (just in case) to do a shooting. That implies lots of creativity. That implies to a way better capacity for reacting and adapting to changing situations... What others, years before, weren't able to do.... big and slow armies defeated by guerrillas, if yoy see what I mean.

And should everything fail, what I wouldn't to do is spending seven years in all available forum with all available nick moaning, crying and playing the prophet. I would consider suicide before adopting such clownish attitudes.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2010, 19:25 by loop »

molka

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« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2010, 19:27 »
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"It is always sad to see someone trying to put the blame of his failure on others."

agreed, and that's what you people are doing, in case you haven't noticed...  you too, right now.

"And should everything fail, what I wouldn't to do is spending seven years in all available forum with all available nick moaning, crying and playing the prophet. I would consider suicide before adopting such clowning attitudes"

get a rope then, because that's you. funny how you despise an action while doing it. : ) I registered yesterday, never seen this place before.. but nice rant anyways, If that's any consolidation to you, I'm probably gonna have my say in a few things as it is due in a reasonably free world, and than leave forever, not that interested in all this. than you can go on monaning and crying, making up childish conspiracy theorries abnout some old nicks to all your liking

« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2010, 19:34 »
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" I registered yesterday, never seen this place before.. "

Oh yesss...

And "registering yesterday for the first time", never having been here before--- you know I've been crying and moaning?? Please, don't be so naive and obvious.

Finally having to get  my arguments and saying "It's you!", denotes you don't have any arguments. Children do that, but they are six or seven and can be excused.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2010, 19:40 by loop »

« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2010, 19:43 »
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'than leave forever'

Assuming you meant 'then', maybe you could leave sooner -than- later.

molka

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« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2010, 19:52 »
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'than leave forever'

Assuming you meant 'then', maybe you could leave sooner -than- later.

your communiction kinda lacks variety. : ) you need to work on that.

I'll leave way before you get bored of yourself, so don't worry

« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2010, 20:21 »
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ignored by 11 members already, maybe a new record.

back on thread

overall this year Istock is 10% above last years earnings. my portfolio is 20% larger.

earnings at Istock has been down for me since the announcement, lower than june,july and august, which are meant to be some of the lowest earning months.

probably ebb and flow + I haven't uploaded (my massive protest hitting hard at those heartless getty executives in their ivory towers) since the announcement which wouldn't help.

« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2010, 21:24 »
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I just can't talk about this without pointing out that you did a lot to bring this on yourselves. and right now, you just sit around an take it... or rather have go at me than the people who actually took a nice big sh*t in your lap. Yeah that's reasonable. All you should have done is deactivte your files, non destructive, undoable.

Im getting quite tired of seeing these clueless statements from people who obviously do not take in hundreds or thousands of dollars a week from microstock. Everyone knows what is going on at istock is wrong. All this talk of taking the moral high ground and deactivating or deleting your images on istock must not have that much income to lose because in the end, money talks. For many successful exclusives, there seems to be no viable alternative.

Maybe its getting real crowded on itsock. maybe a ton of independants leave istock. maybe exclusives make more money with less competition. too many maybes


 

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