Author Topic: 19c sales (Read 34583 times)

tickstock · « **Reply #25 on:** June 24, 2015, 00:02 »

From what I remember some of the small amounts were for short term usage, like one day, not a normal RF licence.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #26 on:** June 24, 2015, 00:06 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on June 23, 2015, 23:49

FT as whole pays more that IS. It's not easy to separate the DPC part. But these PP sales are for IS worse than what DPC is for FT.

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But you were talking about the DPC boycott, not about Fotolia (and you were the one who chose to start it) so why are you changing the subject? And why is it hard to separate out DPC, I thought it was a flat-rate $1 sale and a flat rate commission? The 19c PP credits are extremely unusual, which is why I bought them up. My PP commissions last month averaged 72c (unusually good, I'll admit, as there were a couple of $25 sales among them). If you seriously want to compare commission rates you have to look at the overall average, not at freak low-value or high-value sales.
The boycott of DPC, though, was not about the commission-per-sale, it was about the entire business model and the effect it would have on dragging down the industry.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #27 on:** June 24, 2015, 10:15 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on June 24, 2015, 00:06

Quote from: Zero Talent on June 23, 2015, 23:49
FT as whole pays more that IS. It's not easy to separate the DPC part. But these PP sales are for IS worse than what DPC is for FT.

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But you were talking about the DPC boycott, not about Fotolia (and you were the one who chose to start it) so why are you changing the subject? And why is it hard to separate out DPC, I thought it was a flat-rate $1 sale and a flat rate commission? The 19c PP credits are extremely unusual, which is why I bought them up. My PP commissions last month averaged 72c (unusually good, I'll admit, as there were a couple of $25 sales among them). If you seriously want to compare commission rates you have to look at the overall average, not at freak low-value or high-value sales.
The boycott of DPC, though, was not about the commission-per-sale, it was about the entire business model and the effect it would have on dragging down the industry.

I'm talking about the outrage seen when DPC was launched, name it as you want.
Why don't we see a similar outrage when we get a spit in the eye with these $0.19 commissions?

Moreover,
1. it is impossible to track them if they keep on reporting with 6 months delay
2. 6 months delay is an outrage in itself.
3. we don't really know what kind of sales are these, do we?
4. what if the "unusual" will become the "usual" or "very usual"?
5. Why don't we have the option to opt-out from this 0.19 joke?

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #28 on:** June 24, 2015, 13:01 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on June 24, 2015, 10:15

I talking about the outrage seen when DPC was launched, name it as you want.
Why don't we see a similar outrage when we get a spit in the eye with these $0.19 commissions?

If you think the outrage over DPC was all about the commissions you completely missed the point.

Your objections to the istock tracking, reporting delay, lack of transparency and lack of opt-out all have merit - but the secretive and tricky way DPC was imposed on suppliers and the sales model it created was far worse. I'm glad to see that in the Fotolia/Adobe era they seem to be sidelining DPC.

PS: I'm no great fan of iStock, despite having almost 5,000 files there I haven't bothered to upload to them since February.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #29 on:** June 24, 2015, 13:40 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on June 24, 2015, 13:01

Quote from: Zero Talent on June 24, 2015, 10:15

I talking about the outrage seen when DPC was launched, name it as you want.
Why don't we see a similar outrage when we get a spit in the eye with these $0.19 commissions?

If you think the outrage over DPC was all about the commissions you completely missed the point.

Your objections to the istock tracking, reporting delay, lack of transparency and lack of opt-out all have merit - but the secretive and tricky way DPC was imposed on suppliers and the sales model it created was far worse. I'm glad to see that in the Fotolia/Adobe era they seem to be sidelining DPC.

PS: I'm no great fan of iStock, despite having almost 5,000 files there I haven't bothered to upload to them since February.

I understand.
But what makes you believe that these 0.19$ sales are not a coming from secret "IS/Getty DPC"? Doesn't it look like $1 sales you get 19% commission for? Imposed in a "secretive and tricky way"?

PS. I'm not a fan of DPC and I'm happy to hear Adobe is sidelining it.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #30 on:** June 24, 2015, 15:21 »

Yes, it would be nice to know what they are for - that's why I asked in the first place. Tickstock thinks they're a restricted one-day use license - I simply don't know. So if somebody else has some info...

tickstock · « **Reply #31 on:** June 24, 2015, 15:31 »

I'm not saying that's what they are. I'm just saying that some low royalty sales are for one time use for a short period of time like one day on a website, they aren't normal RF sales.

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