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Title: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Mantis on May 12, 2012, 05:56
Earliest I can recall that Istock's PP royalties are being tabulated.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: wut on May 12, 2012, 07:28
Yeah I was so happy to earn 10$ over night on Friday, when sales otherwise really slow down, but then I checked and there was just one Dl, I knew it was the PP. Nevertheless, I had a BDE already, so it looks good regarding April's PP earnings
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: WarrenPrice on May 12, 2012, 14:02
28 cents here 28 cents there ... it soon adds up to 56 cents.   :P :D

ED:  StockXpert seems to be compensating for the early release of figures by iS. 
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Mantis on May 12, 2012, 17:45
28 cents here 28 cents there ... it soon adds up to 56 cents.   :P :D

.28 is sheit, but I do manage to pull in $175 to $250 a month, so my sales add up more than your 56 cents. ;D
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: WarrenPrice on May 12, 2012, 21:21
28 cents here 28 cents there ... it soon adds up to 56 cents.   :P :D

.28 is sheit, but I do manage to pull in $175 to $250 a month, so my sales add up more than your 56 cents. ;D

They're pouring in now, Mantis ... here, there, over yonder... Not gonna reach your lofty figures but might make it to triple digits ... separated by a period.   ;D
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: heywoody on May 13, 2012, 11:48
Definitely my best PP month - the single $24 sale looks out of place among $0.28s  ;)
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on May 13, 2012, 15:11
It looks as if I will be 20% down on the last two months. Perhaps the conscripted images are starting to make a difference to sales.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: gostwyck on May 13, 2012, 15:29
It looks as if I will be 20% down on the last two months. Perhaps the conscripted images are starting to make a difference to sales.

Bound to happen. My PP sales are likely to exceed my earnings at BigStock for April and I've still only got 1/3 of my port moved over. Must admit I've been surprised how good sales are there. I just wish it was more transparent and timely in the reporting.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: wut on May 13, 2012, 16:01
It looks as if I will be 20% down on the last two months. Perhaps the conscripted images are starting to make a difference to sales.

Bound to happen. My PP sales are likely to exceed my earnings at BigStock for April and I've still only got 1/3 of my port moved over. Must admit I've been surprised how good sales are there. I just wish it was more transparent and timely in the reporting.

I'm not sure it'll benefit us in the long run, if almost all the buyers will get subs. I mean of course the bottom line matters, I don't care about the RPD, but they're really getting spoiled a bit too much. I know SS is proving something different, not only rising prices, but also the percentage of OD sales rising, but still. Just look at how bad of an effect subs have had for our earnings at FT and DT (well not mine, since I've started in 2010, but for all of you that started in 05/06)
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on May 13, 2012, 16:05
It looks as if I will be 20% down on the last two months. Perhaps the conscripted images are starting to make a difference to sales.

Bound to happen. My PP sales are likely to exceed my earnings at BigStock for April and I've still only got 1/3 of my port moved over. Must admit I've been surprised how good sales are there. I just wish it was more transparent and timely in the reporting.

I'm not sure it'll benefit us in the long run, if almost all the buyers will get subs. I mean of course the bottom line matters, I don't care about the RPD, but they're really getting spoiled a bit too much. I know SS is proving something different, not only rising prices, but also the percentage of OD sales rising, but still. Just look at how bad of an effect subs have had for our earnings at FT and DT (well not mine, since I've started in 2010, but for all of you that started in 05/06)

That's an interesting point - when I look back at 2005/6 I see I was getting about 70c per dl at DT; now, as a result of their bizarre pricing mechanism, I am getting twice that regardless of the subscriptions pulling down the average.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: wut on May 13, 2012, 16:13
It looks as if I will be 20% down on the last two months. Perhaps the conscripted images are starting to make a difference to sales.

Bound to happen. My PP sales are likely to exceed my earnings at BigStock for April and I've still only got 1/3 of my port moved over. Must admit I've been surprised how good sales are there. I just wish it was more transparent and timely in the reporting.

I'm not sure it'll benefit us in the long run, if almost all the buyers will get subs. I mean of course the bottom line matters, I don't care about the RPD, but they're really getting spoiled a bit too much. I know SS is proving something different, not only rising prices, but also the percentage of OD sales rising, but still. Just look at how bad of an effect subs have had for our earnings at FT and DT (well not mine, since I've started in 2010, but for all of you that started in 05/06)

That's an interesting point - when I look back at 2005/6 I see I was getting about 70c per dl at DT; now, as a result of their bizarre pricing mechanism, I am getting twice that regardless of the subscriptions pulling down the average.

As I said, I can't say since I wasn't around, but many big timers are complaining that they're getting mostly subs, like 8/10, which is driving their RPD down, looking like they sell a lot and they do, but the end result is still poor (in their opinion). There are hundreds of posts like that, I'm sure you came across some of them. For me, DT is performing really bad, after their price rise/commission cut. It looks like I'm not going to earn even half of what I used to. To get back on topic, PP is on track for a 2nd BME. Not bad, since none of my files haven't been moved for over 2 months and even before that I've had only about 2/3 of my port moved there.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Mantis on May 13, 2012, 16:22
28 cents here 28 cents there ... it soon adds up to 56 cents.   :P :D

.28 is sheit, but I do manage to pull in $175 to $250 a month, so my sales add up more than your 56 cents. ;D

They're pouring in now, Mantis ... here, there, over yonder... Not gonna reach your lofty figures but might make it to triple digits ... separated by a period.   ;D

Maybe I spoke too soon. Rolling in very slowly this month.... :-\
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Danybot on May 13, 2012, 16:33
The pennies do add up.   My partner program sales in April were equivalent to 34% of my regular revenues, which means that in terms of total downloads they outnumbered the regular sales.  Unfortunately, my total revenue is only about half of what it was a few years ago.   Istock is competing with itself, and the low priced sales are contributing to the cannibalization of regular iStock earnings.   
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: heywoody on May 13, 2012, 17:28
The pennies do add up.   My partner program sales in April were equivalent to 34% of my regular revenues, which means that in terms of total downloads they outnumbered the regular sales.  Unfortunately, my total revenue is only about half of what it was a few years ago.   Istock is competing with itself, and the low priced sales are contributing to the cannibalization of regular iStock earnings.   
I just regard them the same as sub sales on other sites but with the occasional nice surprise
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: gemmy12 on May 14, 2012, 01:58
pp earnings is much more than earning from istock itself. Lol dont know if its good or bad.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: luissantos84 on May 14, 2012, 07:12
my regular IS earnings are usually 2x the PP
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: WarrenPrice on May 15, 2012, 19:47
Are April results still pending?
Mine seemed to stop at 19th.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on May 15, 2012, 19:52
I have sales recorded for the 1st through the 20th.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: cmannphoto on May 15, 2012, 20:34
I too am up to the 20th.

Didn't they stop and start it last month, so it ran over the weekend only?
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Elenathewise on May 15, 2012, 22:30
Umm... I too see that my Istock total jumped up a few days ago - is there a place to see the Partner Program total for the month? When I go to PP link on my Istock account it just shows me my files with total downloads (both PP and Istock).
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: traveler1116 on May 15, 2012, 22:38
In the daily and monthly graph you can see it, it's in green.  There is also a Greasemonkey script that helps some.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Karimala on May 15, 2012, 22:58
Umm... I too see that my Istock total jumped up a few days ago - is there a place to see the Partner Program total for the month? When I go to PP link on my Istock account it just shows me my files with total downloads (both PP and Istock).

Unfortunately IS doesn't provide a place where the numbers are broken down.  I have an extra column in my earnings spreadsheet that calculates the difference.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on May 15, 2012, 23:07
Umm... I too see that my Istock total jumped up a few days ago - is there a place to see the Partner Program total for the month? When I go to PP link on my Istock account it just shows me my files with total downloads (both PP and Istock).

If you download the CSV file for the month you'll get a total for the PP downloads by day and for the month.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Elenathewise on May 16, 2012, 14:39
Ah - thank you guys. That works.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on May 16, 2012, 15:00
I too am up to the 20th.

Didn't they stop and start it last month, so it ran over the weekend only?

Yeah, sometimes it stutters on past the weekend for a bit. However, it is absolutely normal for them to switch it off about halfway through and then restart it the following weekend.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: rubyroo on May 16, 2012, 15:05
The way you speak of 'switching it off' has me visualising a contraption at their end with bakelite switches.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: gostwyck on May 16, 2012, 15:16
The way you speak of 'switching it off' has me visualising a contraption at their end with bakelite switches.

I thought it was done by a rotating mechanical thing powered by a watermill.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: WarrenPrice on May 16, 2012, 15:22
My StockXpert (Hemera) collection seems to have cut off mid-report as well.  I wonder if both are being driven now by the iS PP engine?
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: lisafx on May 16, 2012, 16:56
The way you speak of 'switching it off' has me visualising a contraption at their end with bakelite switches.


I thought it was done by a rotating mechanical thing powered by a watermill.


LOL!  I thought it was powered this way:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YIj4rLYo0c[/youtube]

I figured the hampster just needed a rest ;D
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: gostwyck on May 16, 2012, 17:39
LOL!  I thought it was powered this way:

[youtube][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YIj4rLYo0c[/url][/youtube]

I figured the hampster just needed a rest ;D


Apparently it used to be the hamster's job but he was one of the staff members they had to 'let go' a few months back. Too expensive.  ::)
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: lisafx on May 17, 2012, 13:20

Apparently it used to be the hamster's job but he was one of the staff members they had to 'let go' a few months back. Too expensive.  ::)

That explains it!  ;D
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Mantis on May 17, 2012, 14:17
Are April results still pending?
Mine seemed to stop at 19th.

They are usually over two weekends...you have seen only the first.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Mantis on May 17, 2012, 14:23
Umm... I too see that my Istock total jumped up a few days ago - is there a place to see the Partner Program total for the month? When I go to PP link on my Istock account it just shows me my files with total downloads (both PP and Istock).

Yes. 

1. Click on your balance at the bottom to get to your stats page
2. Scroll down to your contributor stats and click the month back to April
3. Change the "daily" drop down to monthly
4. Your PP are the green bars.  Place your cursor on the green bar for the month and it will tell you what the total PP is for that month (it will give you current as well while PP is still being tabulated for that month)
5. You can also click the CSV icon and download a spreadsheet of the sales.
6. PP does not give you a summary of which images provide the make-up of your sales.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: lisafx on May 21, 2012, 09:12
They managed to get the PP royalties up to the 20th over a week ago, now, this past weekend, they only made it to the 27th? 

Anyone get paid through the end of April?  My stats show the 28th through 30th still aren't there.  Do we have to wait another week just to get paid for the last three days of the month ???
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on May 21, 2012, 09:29
...Anyone get paid through the end of April?  My stats show the 28th through 30th still aren't there.  Do we have to wait another week just to get paid for the last three days of the month ???

I have the same thing you do - missing 28-30th.

I had also thought they were firing up the image transfer process after about a month of nothing. Friday and Saturday 50 or so images got transferred but then nothing.

It's like one of those cars that backfires and bucks and can't get over 20 miles an hour except on a steep downhill stretch...
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: mayaartist on May 21, 2012, 09:50
I have nothing for 24 - 30 April
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: fotografer on May 21, 2012, 10:06
They managed to get the PP royalties up to the 20th over a week ago, now, this past weekend, they only made it to the 27th? 

Anyone get paid through the end of April?  My stats show the 28th through 30th still aren't there.  Do we have to wait another week just to get paid for the last three days of the month ???
Same here
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: WarrenPrice on May 21, 2012, 10:23
I have nothing for 24 - 30 April

me too ... but port is small and not getting sales every day. 
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: mayaartist on May 21, 2012, 10:55
Quote
Quote from: mayaartist on Today at 09:50
I have nothing for 24 - 30 April

me too ... but port is small and not getting sales every day.


I'm a small fish on PP with only 80 images.(3d)
Here is my graph:
(http://www.kondiuk.com/images/lightbox/april_PP_graph.jpg)
 
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Karimala on May 21, 2012, 11:13
My StockXpert (Hemera) collection seems to have cut off mid-report as well.  I wonder if both are being driven now by the iS PP engine?

Interesting.  My April earnings were lower than any other since the PP started.  I wonder if it's because they still have more sales to add?
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Perry on May 21, 2012, 12:55
April 28 - 30 still missing...
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: wut on May 21, 2012, 13:58
April 28 - 30 still missing...

+1
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: lisafx on May 23, 2012, 15:55
My PP sales appear to have finished the month of April.  They are showing through the 30th now.  Not even a weekend! :)
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on May 23, 2012, 16:04
I just checked, and those last 3 days have filled in for me too. I then went to see if any more files had been moved over to Thinkstock, but that's apparently separate and it's still stuck where it was this weekend.
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: luissantos84 on May 23, 2012, 16:09
finished here too I guess.. after 8 months over/close to 200 downloads, I have dropped to 175
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: wut on May 23, 2012, 16:19
Mine as well, 2nd BME too :)
Title: Re: WOW, April PP rolling in already
Post by: Paulo M. F. Pires on May 24, 2012, 04:42
Since February 2012 that my PP sales are dropping... but otherwise non-pp sales are increasing ( mean photo+ files ).