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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2008, 22:05 »
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As usual.... I always wind up eating my words.... what's the odds???  I just sold a pic since my last complaining post early this evening.... seems every time I complain here about LO,  I suddenly sel...........hey, hey
Hey, wait a minute....that's it!!! That's the secret!!   I should complain more, ....every day.... yeah, that's the ticket!!! 

Mitch, you're betraying your age.... dude, that's gotta be from one of the first few seasons of SNL.  ..but I like to think I'm more   Samurai Photographer.....  ..Belushi was the man!!
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 22:08 by a.k.a.-tom »


« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2008, 02:34 »
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I don't understand all the negativity.

The negativity may partly be due to the fact that, while most agencies are most agencies are either good or bad with some individual variations, LO varies a lot. For some, it's just a "normal" slow site, but for others, it doesn't seem to move at all. I've been there for nearly a year and a half now, and with a portfolio of 572 images, I've made an astonishing 11 or 12 dollars.

Even stranger than that: I have only 1955 views in total, while at SV, where I've just been a little over 6 months, that's the number of views I've had on my top 25 or 30 images combined. Considering the fact that SV isn't a fast mover either, this puts LO in a rather strange light: why on earth is my portfolio nearly invisible at LO?

That is strange.  I have 27,000 views and 146 downloads.  Did you upload them all in one go?  Perhaps uploading more will kick start the views.  It is the easiest site I upload to.  I did notice you don't have many keywords on some of your photos.

« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2008, 05:23 »
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hi,

I had 23 downloads in march, easily my best month (earn't $6.6 in jan and $6 in feb) so I was pretty happy and was about to post asking if anyone else had the same when i saw this thread, hmm looks like I stole all the sales, sorry :)

Phil

michealo

« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2008, 05:35 »
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Thanks Miz, its more than I've got form LO, LOL

Leaf is there a way of showing a Miz award on my Microstockgroup.com profile?

digiology

« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2008, 11:35 »
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I had 2 sales in March so sadly I cannot compete for the MIZ award.  :'(

Prior to that, I hadn't had a sale since Nov 07.

« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2008, 16:43 »
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I had 23 downloads in march, easily my best month (earn't $6.6 in jan and $6 in feb) so I was pretty happy and was about to post asking if anyone else had the same when i saw this thread, hmm looks like I stole all the sales, sorry :)

I had 7 sales, so I guess I also ruined some people's results with that awesome share.  :)

Regards,
Adelaide

DanP68

« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2008, 01:14 »
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That's not encouraging.

I'm on about 70 days with 41 images online.  Waiting for them to re-review a batch of 35 images.

No sales, 50 odd views.


Don't hold your breath.  I hate to be negative, but the truth is they have produced only 7 total sales over 7 months for my portfolio of 250-odd.  I make more per day on average with Shutterstock, than I have made TOTAL in 7 months with Lucky Oliver.  That is no exaggeration Seren.  The statistical truth boggles my mind.

Bryan seems like a smart guy.  They have wonderful reviews, with real feedback.  I respect Mitch's opinion when he sticks up for Lucky Oliver.  But whatever the reason, it clearly isn't working for most of us.  Plenty of photographers a lot smarter than me have already given up and left LO.  It's just a matter of time before I give up too.

But hey, at this rate I'll make the $25 payout in 5 years, so I should press on!  ;D

« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2008, 01:52 »
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Sales are stalled. Last sale was in 12th march...(portfolio over 1300 images) and I continously upload. Only little bit over 6000 views though.. Thinking to stop uploading there until the sales volume picking up. But hey, quite its a new site... (



DanP68

« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2008, 03:12 »
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One thing contributors need to understand is that a lot of those "views" are just other contributors looking at your portfolio.  Especially when I post a message on their boards, I immediately get a ton of views.  How many customers are actually viewing portfolios is debatable, but the lack of sales suggests not many.

« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2008, 10:08 »
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Here's a related post that is quite a mystery on DT

http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_9641

A guy has an image up for 2 weeks, it has 6145 views, yet not one sale

The MIZ

« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2008, 11:14 »
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I'd say LO has been a major disappointment. Along with Snapv.

On LO I average 1.5 views per month on each of my 209 images, with 4.8 downloads per month. However no dls for nearly a month.

Either their marketing really sucks or their buyers are not looking for my images that are selling elsewhere. I guess we just plod ahead and put our time in where it seems to be more profitable.

The newest site that is showing promise -- at least with the way they are getting things right site-wise -- is Yay Micro. I guess hope is what some of us have in abundance.

« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2008, 12:27 »
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I think new sites need to keep a balance between buyers and contributors.  Albumo attracted lots of us but they have failed to get enough buyers to keep us happy.  It is a similar story with LO and FP.  Will Yaymicro be any different?

« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2008, 12:51 »
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I have managed to get through 90 days without a sale on Luckyoliver. That is with a portfolio of 147 images

Can anyone better that!?

I would consider you a winner if you have a large port and no sales or a similar port size and a longer dry patch.

15 months with $6.70 in sales.  I had approx. 250 images online.  I dumped them and I'm in the process of dumping Albumo.  Of course, it will take a long while to dump Albumo.  You can only delete ONE image a day!

dbvirago

« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2008, 14:17 »
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Wow. A month ago, I decided to request a payment even though it was only $30 since the site had been so flaky. Actually forgot about it until today when it finally got paid.

I think what little infrastructure they had is dwindling.

« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2008, 15:08 »
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They say that they pay 10 days after the end of the month requested or something like that.  I got mine today.  Exactly when expected.

BTW, I've even had 3 sales this month. 

(Don't confuse this post as a "Yay LO" post.  3 sales a month ain't worth praise.)

« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2008, 15:48 »
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.......... or their buyers are not looking for my images that are selling elsewhere.


That's all I can figure it to be... 

BUT WATCH OUT PIXART,  I'M HOT ON YOUR TAIL!!!!   I'VE HAD  2 SALES THIS MONTH!!!!   TWO!!!
Still a long way to go to beat my BME of Aug 2007...    9, count 'em, 9 sales!!!!!!!!!!!!    8)=tom

« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2008, 16:30 »
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16 downloads was my BME.  That was last June and I hoped it was the start of improving sales but I can't find and consistency there.

« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2008, 18:52 »
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About the only consistent driver of buyers to micro seems to me to be their advertising spending. All the big 6 on the right are consistent large scale advertising buyers. Maybe it's just me but I have never seen any of the others in any of the publications that I read except for Snapvillage who just started advertising last month.

There's a direct correlation in my opinion between traditional ad budgets and money in our pockets. Those are the sites that are reeling in the buyers, including new customers to micro, month after month. The other sites are scurrying around after the crumbs. 

I think we should demand of all the new wanna-be micro sites that they reveal some hard promotional ad dollars they are committing. We're investing our time so they should come clean with some hard reasons for us to hit that upload button.

« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2008, 19:47 »
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wish i could win a MIZ award, or something

dbvirago

« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2008, 20:07 »
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They say that they pay 10 days after the end of the month requested or something like that.  I got mine today.  Exactly when expected.

BTW, I've even had 3 sales this month. 

(Don't confuse this post as a "Yay LO" post.  3 sales a month ain't worth praise.)

OK, my bad. It's been so long since I got a payment from them I forgot.

« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2008, 20:46 »
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Member since Dec 07
Port at 475
1250 views *because I post in the forums*
First sale 2/2/08
Second sale 2/20/08

Wanted to hit a payout, with the new Valentine $1 payouts every February, but still sitting at the beginning of April with just those 2 sales, my piggy sitting at $ 0.90.

Do I hate LO?  Hardly.  In fact, everyone who asks me how to start up, I send them there.  Of course, I tell them not to expect sales. Why lie?  But, I DO tell them to get active in the Odd, and tell them if they have a question, ask.  When we first started, we got rejected at two other sites and LO.  The other sites sent back the usual, you know, either over/under exposed, lighting either washed out or too dark, too much noise, or too much artifacting... i mean, what is artifacting?? And when I sent the review team an email back, it got bounced and I was told to submit questions to the forums.

I just so happened to be online when LO sent the 3 toss review the first time, we read it, didn't understand it, and sent them back a question.  What we got back was a very friendly, very encouraging, very DETAILED explaination WITH the answer on how to correct it. We sent a few more letters back and forth, and we were the first 3 toss approval for 2008.

It was this very personal, very inviting, very encouraging attitude that kept us going, and we will always have a soft spot in our hearts for LO.

We aren't members of LO for sales, we're there for the community.


 

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