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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2017, 19:53 »
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"55-65% for Credit Sales and 19-37% for Subscription Sales of the net sale price"

The net sale price being after any referrals have been paid out. "Revenue Shares are calculated based on net sales amounts after payment of referral fees". Although this bit sounds good...

"...provided Contributor is otherwise in compliance with the terms of this Agreement, Lifeographies will not seek repayment of any overpayments made to the Contributor."

But yes, would like to know the cost of a credit without having to sign up to find out. If it's 5 for a video and 10 for a high resolution image... and they do "images from 35c" then I'm assuming videos are pretty cheap. I don't mind cheap prices with high sales, or low sales with high prices... but not low sales with low prices.
Hi SpaceStockFootage,

It is true, you don't  have to login to see the prices, but for this there must be good will and not a superficial approach, which is somehow understandable considering the invasion of stock platforms that promise much and does less or nothing. The video price has never been 5usd, it is and has always been 25usd (easy to check).

If there are other questions, we are here to answer them.

Thanks for your reply.
Lifeographies Team.

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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2017, 20:00 »
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You're starting up about 12 years too late.  Apart from Pond5 and Depositphotos all of the top nine agencies in the poll results on the right of this page were in business by the end of 2005. Hardly anybody bothers with those lower down on the list, there's scarcely any return to be had.
Hi Baldricks,

You can't get anywhere unless you start :).

Thanks for your reply.
Lifeographies Team.

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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2017, 20:25 »
+1
The video price has never been 5usd, it is and has always been 25usd

I never said it was! Somebody said it was 5 credits for a video, so I was just going off that. I didn't check originally as I got a bit fed up of waiting for the page to load... but just gave it another go. So after 60 seconds for the homepage to load, 140 seconds for the video page, and 25 seconds for an individual video page... you're right! It's 25 credits. So 1 credit equals $1.

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2017, 20:30 »
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You're starting up about 12 years too late.  Apart from Pond5 and Depositphotos all of the top nine agencies in the poll results on the right of this page were in business by the end of 2005. Hardly anybody bothers with those lower down on the list, there's scarcely any return to be had.
Hi Baldricks,

You can't get anywhere unless you start :).

Thanks for your reply.
Lifeographies Team.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

I agree, if you can take just 1% of Shutterstock's business, then you'll still be turning over more than $1m a year... so it could be a profitable little business. Although, as a contributor... if I was to make 1% of what I'm making at Shutterstock, then I'd probably give it a miss. And that could be the issue... getting enough content to be in a position to take that 1% from Shutterstock. 

« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2017, 21:07 »
+3
You are looking for contributors here... what are your plans for getting buyers?
How much money are you investing in marketing? Is this self funded website or any investor.

« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2017, 21:36 »
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"Contributors are required to keep at least seventy (60%) percent of their portfolio online with Lifeographies.com for a period of at least one (1) year. You may disable all files older than six months from the date of review at any time. You will be allowed to disable a total of thirty (40%) percent of your total Media submitted within the past one (1) year. Media that was disabled and then enabled again will be counted as new submissions, no matter of their original upload date."

Come on.  Really?
Hi Sean,

Yes it is true.
Thanks for your reply.

Lifeographies Team.


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Excellent. I won't be uploading. Thanks for being unrealistic.

« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2017, 22:51 »
+2
This is one slow site, takes ages to load. I think most customers will have left by the time their page request has loaded.

« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2017, 00:21 »
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Just to be clear, can you expose point by point why I should spend time to upload my images on your site?

What advantages do you propose compared to competitors like Shutterstock or AdobeStock?

How do you think to emerge in the microstock industry?

Why a customer should buy on your site the same content he can find in Shutterstock or AdobeStock?

« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2017, 01:55 »
+3
"Contributors are required to keep at least seventy (60%) percent of their portfolio online with Lifeographies.com for a period of at least one (1) year. You may disable all files older than six months from the date of review at any time. You will be allowed to disable a total of thirty (40%) percent of your total Media submitted within the past one (1) year. Media that was disabled and then enabled again will be counted as new submissions, no matter of their original upload date."

Come on.  Really?

Although the numbers have changed, that paragraph looks copied from Dreamstime's rules, including the mangled english of the final sentence:

"Contributors are required to keep at least seventy (70%) percent of their portfolio online with Dreamstime.com for a period of at least six (6) months. You may disable all files older than six months from the date of review at any time. You will be allowed to disable a total of thirty (30%) percent of your total Media submitted within the past six (6) months. Media that was disabled and then enabled again will be counted as new submissions, no matter of their original upload date."
Love that they changed the figure in numbers to "40%" but missed the "thirty" while copying. Nice.

« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2017, 05:36 »
+6
I'm not sure how many new sites have tried to get going but have been a complete waste of time, must be at least 500 by now?  I used to join many of them but now I'm very wary.  I don't see the point in new sites paying less than 50% because we already have sites paying that and there's no way I want to help increase their competition.

« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2017, 06:09 »
+3
I'm not sure how many new sites have tried to get going but have been a complete waste of time, must be at least 500 by now?  I used to join many of them but now I'm very wary.  I don't see the point in new sites paying less than 50% because we already have sites paying that and there's no way I want to help increase their competition.
I don't hold out much hope here no USP and nothing new in an already saturated market.

« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2017, 06:48 »
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You're starting up about 12 years too late.  Apart from Pond5 and Depositphotos all of the top nine agencies in the poll results on the right of this page were in business by the end of 2005. Hardly anybody bothers with those lower down on the list, there's scarcely any return to be had.
Hi Baldricks,

You can't get anywhere unless you start :).

Thanks for your reply.
Lifeographies Team.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

I agree, if you can take just 1% of Shutterstock's business, then you'll still be turning over more than $1m a year... so it could be a profitable little business. Although, as a contributor... if I was to make 1% of what I'm making at Shutterstock, then I'd probably give it a miss. And that could be the issue... getting enough content to be in a position to take that 1% from Shutterstock.
I agree with your point..however they will have a smaller number of contributors so for example IF they only had 1% of the contributors as SS you would make the same. given that ss claim customer retention of 92% then unless you have something game changing to offer you would be looking to take one 1/8 of those customers....very improbable.

« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2017, 11:07 »
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1.
My browser is of the opinion that the site is unsecure, It connects with http instead of https and there is no certificate that can guarantee that the site is genuine and has secure private transfer. Not suitible for entering login and password, credit cards e tc.

2.
Account registration
I tried to register an account, fill in name and address details, but whatever I do, I will return to the page with the account terms.

3.
It's slow.

4.
I have not figured out my comision rate (minium, maximum, avarage, et c) and how the taxes are handled.

5.
I need to studdy the law of South Africa


6.
If the compensation to the image provider is acceptable, and sales are good, I have a some thousands images to offer for distribution.

« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2017, 13:52 »
+1
You're starting up about 12 years too late.  Apart from Pond5 and Depositphotos all of the top nine agencies in the poll results on the right of this page were in business by the end of 2005. Hardly anybody bothers with those lower down on the list, there's scarcely any return to be had.
Hi Baldricks,

You can't get anywhere unless you start :).

Thanks for your reply.
Lifeographies Team.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

I agree, if you can take just 1% of Shutterstock's business, then you'll still be turning over more than $1m a year... so it could be a profitable little business. Although, as a contributor... if I was to make 1% of what I'm making at Shutterstock, then I'd probably give it a miss. And that could be the issue... getting enough content to be in a position to take that 1% from Shutterstock.
Yes, that's my point, really.
It's probably not too hard for a new agency to pull in $1,000 a month for its owner, but if there's 20% commission spread between 100 contributors everybody else is making $2 a month. Everybody doing this at all seriously (and non-exclusively) probably has a few hundred files on each of a handful of low earners which hardly ever deliver a payout.
What does a new entrant have to offer buyers that isn't already there 20-times over? And how much effort is it for us to go and add our files to their site? I'm just having a bad experience with Fotoarabia, who don't seem to be there to pay me now that I've got to payout.  I sent hundreds of files to Cutcaster when they came asking us to support their exciting new site, and I've not seen a penny back from that effort. 
So what's the incredible draw to bring buyers in that will mark this out as being different from all the others, rather than just another site looking for a few crumbs from the big boys' table? And what's the attraction for photographers etc to persuade them to waste devote their time to uploading?

RAW

« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2017, 14:23 »
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If they really mean business they would speed up their website. Any decent developer can do it.

At the moment is is so slow what customers they may attract will just give up and go elsewhere.

« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2017, 02:42 »
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You're starting up about 12 years too late.  Apart from Pond5 and Depositphotos all of the top nine agencies in the poll results on the right of this page were in business by the end of 2005. Hardly anybody bothers with those lower down on the list, there's scarcely any return to be had.
Hi Baldricks,

You can't get anywhere unless you start :).

Thanks for your reply.
Lifeographies Team.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

I agree, if you can take just 1% of Shutterstock's business, then you'll still be turning over more than $1m a year... so it could be a profitable little business. Although, as a contributor... if I was to make 1% of what I'm making at Shutterstock, then I'd probably give it a miss. And that could be the issue... getting enough content to be in a position to take that 1% from Shutterstock.
Yes, that's my point, really.
It's probably not too hard for a new agency to pull in $1,000 a month for its owner, but if there's 20% commission spread between 100 contributors everybody else is making $2 a month. Everybody doing this at all seriously (and non-exclusively) probably has a few hundred files on each of a handful of low earners which hardly ever deliver a payout.
What does a new entrant have to offer buyers that isn't already there 20-times over? And how much effort is it for us to go and add our files to their site? I'm just having a bad experience with Fotoarabia, who don't seem to be there to pay me now that I've got to payout.  I sent hundreds of files to Cutcaster when they came asking us to support their exciting new site, and I've not seen a penny back from that effort. 
So what's the incredible draw to bring buyers in that will mark this out as being different from all the others, rather than just another site looking for a few crumbs from the big boys' table? And what's the attraction for photographers etc to persuade them to waste devote their time to uploading?
If anything the small players/startups are declining faster for me than the bigger sites. Cutcaster, Yay, Graphic Leftovers, Feature Pics haven't produced sales for months and are so far down my priority list that I doubt I will get round to uploading there ever again but even so I doubt I would prioritize an additional site. It would be great to see a start up break into the market but they need innovation and technical excellence.

« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2017, 13:59 »
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Hi Lifeographies: what's your effort to compete with the BIG4 in sales?

We know what WE have to do, but we're not reading about what will you do to sell more and more our content to earn your percentage :)

nazlisart

  • I create therefore I AM
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2017, 14:18 »
+5
Here we go again!

Blah-Blah-Blah.... AKA "Nothing ground-braking - Nothing exciting... We Just want your pictures to gamble"

Being there - Done that...
« Last Edit: May 15, 2017, 01:02 by nazlisart »

« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2017, 17:03 »
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About 16 500 images in the database. I need to reach 100 US dollars before payout is possible and I have not yet figured out if Paypal or bank transfer are availble for payouts.

From Getty and Shutterstock I get payment each month. Payouts seems far away at Lifeographies. My guess is that they dont have many customers, if any.

The uploading process need to be changed by adding a FTP-service. I have lots of pictures in different catogories and need them to be self populated. I don't work with batches.

As a custumer I'm wouldn't by images from this agency because they takes no responsiblity for who the copyright holder is. As a buyer I need an insurance policy for that kind of problems.

The site need https and a valid certificate.


« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2017, 19:22 »
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The site shows the how many times individual images are downloaded. Perfect for the copy cats of the world to steal your ideas.

Customers have no benefit from download numbers, because the files could have thousands of downloads on other agencies, even if it shows as zero downloads on your site.

This is why visible download numbers have been removed on most agencies and macrostock never had it anyway.

it just leads to endless copies and duplications in the collection.

I cant see anything interesting or new from a buyers perspective.

Why should I buy from your place?

« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2017, 20:14 »
0
"55-65% for Credit Sales and 19-37% for Subscription Sales of the net sale price"

The net sale price being after any referrals have been paid out. "Revenue Shares are calculated based on net sales amounts after payment of referral fees". Although this bit sounds good...

"...provided Contributor is otherwise in compliance with the terms of this Agreement, Lifeographies will not seek repayment of any overpayments made to the Contributor."

But yes, would like to know the cost of a credit without having to sign up to find out. If it's 5 for a video and 10 for a high resolution image... and they do "images from 35c" then I'm assuming videos are pretty cheap. I don't mind cheap prices with high sales, or low sales with high prices... but not low sales with low prices.
Hi SpaceStockFootage,

It is true, you don't  have to login to see the prices, but for this there must be good will and not a superficial approach, which is somehow understandable considering the invasion of stock platforms that promise much and does less or nothing. The video price has never been 5usd, it is and has always been 25usd (easy to check).

If there are other questions, we are here to answer them.

Thanks for your reply.
Lifeographies Team.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

25 USD is too cheap for videos. That's the average amount i earn on a HD video on other sites I contribute to.  If i can only get just the half of 25USD then i'm sure i won't contribute

« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2017, 05:52 »
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I am in for 3 months and by now Lifeographies is on 5th position by monthly revenue, in my 10 top, above 123RF, Bigstock or Depositphotos.

« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2017, 06:01 »
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I am in for 3 months and by now Lifeographies is on 5th position by monthly revenue, in my 10 top, above 123RF, Bigstock or Depositphotos.
If you're really making money with them, the worst thing you could do is mention it here.  Seen it happen lots of times, a small site can keep a few contributors happy but when the majority start uploading, almost nobody makes anything.

« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2017, 08:06 »
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I am wondering why nobody is mentioning the poor quality of the images... or am I wrong?

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2017, 09:04 »
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I am wondering why nobody is mentioning the poor quality of the images... or am I wrong?


Took too long to go through them, so I gave up before I could form an opinion either way!


 

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