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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2015, 11:37 »
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I just took a brief look and I'm totally confused.  On at least one photo I saw what appeared to be a print option.  I tried to find a 'contributor' or 'seller' section that laid out the terms and options, but failed after wandering around their too-cute site for a while.  For example, it says you get 70%.  But of what? Do you set your prices or do they?  Do they read IPTC? 

I freely admit I just don't have the patience for this stuff anymore... especially sites that are all over you to "Sign Up" before you can even read their terms.

UPDATE: found a FAQ of sorts, and this statement:

"Please note: We will close the 500px Art market as of late 2015. To continue selling photos on 500px, submit them to 500px Prime. To continue purchasing printed art from 500px, visit 500px Prime, where you can purchase full resolution digital images for printing through an online provider, such as Gallery Direct."

So now I'm even more confused.  No way am I selling anyone a full size image.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 11:51 by stockastic »


« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2015, 12:35 »
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Same as faa. Made my money back on faa 100 fold. Made my money back on 500px 15 fold in the first year. Great catch

I sell now and then on FAA so maybe 500px is worth a try.   You're talking about print sales on 500px, right? They're a POD?

They are not POD but licences, IIRC

For now they sell both POD and licenses. You as a contributor get to choose whether to allow one or the other or both per image.

I just took a brief look and I'm totally confused.  On at least one photo I saw what appeared to be a print option.  I tried to find a 'contributor' or 'seller' section that laid out the terms and options, but failed after wandering around their too-cute site for a while.  For example, it says you get 70%.  But of what? Do you set your prices or do they?  Do they read IPTC? 

I freely admit I just don't have the patience for this stuff anymore... especially sites that are all over you to "Sign Up" before you can even read their terms.

UPDATE: found a FAQ of sorts, and this statement:

"Please note: We will close the 500px Art market as of late 2015. To continue selling photos on 500px, submit them to 500px Prime. To continue purchasing printed art from 500px, visit 500px Prime, where you can purchase full resolution digital images for printing through an online provider, such as Gallery Direct."

So now I'm even more confused.  No way am I selling anyone a full size image.

Your confusion is understandable. Part of this is that 500px and 500px Prime are being kept apart quite thoroughly, with 500px being the photography community and Prime being the marketplace. As a contributor, you contribute by enabling your 500px (i.e. community) photos to be sold on 500px Prime (i.e. the marketplace).

Prime is relatively new and before it existed, there was already an option for selling POD and -- as you describe -- direct downloads for private use. That part, the art market, wasn't separated from 500px and is now closing. In fact, the direct downloads for private use option is already gone.

The licensing model is RF. They take editorial and commercial. As for royalties, they pay out 70% of the gross sale, so *a lot* more than anybody else. The shown prices in Prime are $50 for web/social, $250 for a regular RF, and $750 for "products for resale", i.e. an EL. As I already remarked, math says my recent sale must have been for $350, so there must be other (irregular) options as well.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 13:07 by MarcvsTvllivs »

« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2015, 14:58 »
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For now they sell both POD and licenses. You as a contributor get to choose whether to allow one or the other or both per image.

Not really. Lately my friend registered here to sell her paintings and she can't. She's been told there's no more that option for new comers...

« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2015, 15:14 »
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For now they sell both POD and licenses. You as a contributor get to choose whether to allow one or the other or both per image.

Not really. Lately my friend registered here to sell her paintings and she can't. She's been told there's no more that option for new comers...

Ah. Okay. Well, I never sold anything in their POD anyway. The licensing seems way more interesting, because of the curated approach and the high prices.

« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2015, 16:07 »
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Thanks MarcvsTvllus.   I'm only interested in POD so I guess I'll forget about 500px. 

« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2015, 16:52 »
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Before I waste a lot of time on this - could someone give me a quick bottom line on 500px?  Is it another exclusive club that accepts a chosen few, or can anyone come in?  Do all photos get exposure or is it another crazy 'curating' game like Crated?  What's the 'catch'?  Every new site has one :-)

There is some free option but generally you have to pay for the sweets  ;)

Oh, so it's Pay To Play.  I think I remember that now.   Oh well.

I don't pay. Still get sales. More than on FAA.

« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2015, 18:39 »
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Before I waste a lot of time on this - could someone give me a quick bottom line on 500px?  Is it another exclusive club that accepts a chosen few, or can anyone come in?  Do all photos get exposure or is it another crazy 'curating' game like Crated?  What's the 'catch'?  Every new site has one :-)

There is some free option but generally you have to pay for the sweets  ;)

Oh, so it's Pay To Play.  I think I remember that now.   Oh well.

I don't pay. Still get sales. More than on FAA.

+1, although I have nothing bad to say about FAA either

« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2015, 22:47 »
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Before I waste a lot of time on this - could someone give me a quick bottom line on 500px?  Is it another exclusive club that accepts a chosen few, or can anyone come in?  Do all photos get exposure or is it another crazy 'curating' game like Crated?  What's the 'catch'?  Every new site has one :-)

There is some free option but generally you have to pay for the sweets  ;)

Oh, so it's Pay To Play.  I think I remember that now.   Oh well.

I don't pay. Still get sales. More than on FAA.

+1, although I have nothing bad to say about FAA either

I also made more off those three sales with 60 images online than I have at Veer over 2 years with 1,000 images online.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2015, 15:12 »
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Where is 500PX on the poll on the right side here? I don't even see them? What's with that?

« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2015, 15:37 »
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Ha! That's a good question as they sell licenses better (more $ income) than many low earners!

Microstock Man

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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2015, 17:12 »
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Are people actually earning enough each month there for it to be on the poll? I would genuinely be interested to know.

I was considering trying it, but no watermarks was a big concern.

« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2015, 03:48 »
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Are people actually earning enough each month there for it to be on the poll? I would genuinely be interested to know.

I am pretty sure people aren't. Just as I am pretty sure people aren't earning enough to justify putting Veer, MostPhotos, Canva, Yay etc. etc. etc. there...

« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2015, 04:08 »
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I have account there but because of size and watermark stoppers i didn't take this seriously.  Didn't upload images which could go there if they provide proper watermarking at least.

« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2015, 05:00 »
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I have account there but because of size and watermark stoppers i didn't take this seriously.  Didn't upload images which could go there if they provide proper watermarking at least.

I have 7.5K images on sale there and I have regular sales. Yes, it's complicated process to upload in 500px, but it worth. Just make all low resolution images watermarked thru photoshop, than upload watermarked in 500px and high resolution in prime.500px.com

« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2015, 05:17 »
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Thank you Deyan.
I created account on Prime. Then to find time for other steps...

« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2015, 05:38 »
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I have 7.5K images on sale there and I have regular sales. Yes, it's complicated process to upload in 500px, but it worth. Just make all low resolution images watermarked thru photoshop, than upload watermarked in 500px and high resolution in prime.500px.com

Are you actually selling "normal" stock images there? Or do you have such a large "fine art" portfolio?

« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2015, 06:22 »
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I have 7.5K images on sale there and I have regular sales. Yes, it's complicated process to upload in 500px, but it worth. Just make all low resolution images watermarked thru photoshop, than upload watermarked in 500px and high resolution in prime.500px.com

Are you actually selling "normal" stock images there? Or do you have such a large "fine art" portfolio?

Did someone damage your Google search?  :P

Deyan, you must admit it's hard to understand why in these days 500px can't offer watermark and resizing and makes us to do it handly, wasting time for something which is normal everywhere? It's annoying to prepare and upload images twice, do you hear that 500px!?!

« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2015, 06:53 »
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I have 7.5K images on sale there and I have regular sales. Yes, it's complicated process to upload in 500px, but it worth. Just make all low resolution images watermarked thru photoshop, than upload watermarked in 500px and high resolution in prime.500px.com

Are you actually selling "normal" stock images there? Or do you have such a large "fine art" portfolio?

Did someone damage your Google search?  :P

Deyan, you must admit it's hard to understand why in these days 500px can't offer watermark and resizing and makes us to do it handly, wasting time for something which is normal everywhere? It's annoying to prepare and upload images twice, do you hear that 500px!?!

My target is not the people who search free images and try to clean the small watermark from Prime in order to use the image. My target is the real clients who pay and use legal images. I'm not worried about stolen usage, just don't care :)


Are you actually selling "normal" stock images there? Or do you have such a large "fine art" portfolio?

No, a big part of my images there are typical microstock(but not white isolated or some kind of simple microstock) and the other part are premium not exclusive macro content.

« Reply #43 on: March 04, 2015, 07:32 »
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Deyan, to clear the case above - my question about search in Google was to amabu, as he asks you what you sell - you're not hiding so whatta problem serach for your name to see what images you offer in gallery, right?

« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2015, 07:54 »
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In google is easy to find my portfolio :)
https://prime.500px.com/deyan_georgiev

« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2015, 08:10 »
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That's what I said... twice...


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Edit
By accident I've found weird thing - my image is on Prime but I didn't add this for sale, I didn't choose "submit for licensing" button in this case, I only uploaded to gallery. Can anyone else check if there's bigger problem or is it only me? I have some RM images in my gallery and wouldn't like to see them RF in 500px shop...  :-\
« Last Edit: March 04, 2015, 09:18 by Ariene »

« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2015, 09:00 »
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I paid the $17 fee and signed up with 500PX last August or thereabouts.

I closed my account a month later primarily because:

I could not upload more than 10-20 images at a time without my meta data not accompanying my images. I had 3,000 images to upload. They kept telling me it was me. Then others started complaining and I don't know if they ever fixed it.

I did not like at all the response to watermarks where it was recommended that I watermark my own and upload them to 500PX then upload another separate batch to Prime. This was getting ridiculous.

I closed my account and gave up my $17, although they did offer a refund. I would consider going back but only if these issues are addressed.

« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2015, 09:30 »
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Hey nitrus,

500px is a photo community for discovering, sharing, selling, and buying amazing photography (full disclosure - I work there). Our community's photos are available for licensing at prime.500px.com. You're right - it's not your typical stock photography marketplace.

The link KnowYourOnions posted is a bit out of date now, a lot has changed over the past year :) We now offer one of the highest royalty rates in the industry - 70% net for every license sold.

Mantis, I'm sorry to hear you had trouble with uploading. If you like, shoot me an email at adri@500px.com and hopefully I can help address some of your concerns.


Hi Adriana

Is there a possibility of having watermarks in the future? If it wasn't for this problem, I would join 500px in a flash. As it is now, I just don't have the time to do all this extra work.

Annie

Hi Annie,

Watermarking is coming to 500px, yes :) It's going to be great. Can't give you an exact timeline just yet, but it'll be this year, and hopefully sooner rather than later.

Adriana

« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2015, 13:40 »
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Hi,

I have a couple of questions/requests.

MarcvsTvllivs - Any chance you would link your port on 500px and/or the photo that sold?

Semmick Photo - Do you sell the same port on FAA and 500px? Do you also sell these same photos on Micros? I remember back in the day selling the same stuff on micros and higher paying markets was a big faux-pas but that seems to have be less so now.

thanks!
Damien

« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2015, 17:01 »
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Hi,

I have a couple of questions/requests.

MarcvsTvllivs - Any chance you would link your port on 500px and/or the photo that sold?

Semmick Photo - Do you sell the same port on FAA and 500px? Do you also sell these same photos on Micros? I remember back in the day selling the same stuff on micros and higher paying markets was a big faux-pas but that seems to have be less so now.

thanks!
Damien

Sorry, I try to maintain plausible deniability when it comes to my identity here. I want to be able to candidly speak my mind and not fear agency retribution (this isn't particular to 500px btw, I am using my real name on all agencies).

To describe it (even though I suppose that would make me identifiable to a 500px insider, but oh well...): it is a photo of a locker-lined hallway. Nothing too special in terms of artistic value, but not "standard" stock either.


 

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