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« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2010, 04:03 »
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thanks for the reply Johnnie

So how are royalties calculated?  If a buyer buys a package for 100 pounds and only uses 50% of his package on only my images and another photographers images, does that mean I'll get 30% of 100 pounds multiplied by .5 since half the sales were my images?

Is this calculated at the end of each month?

thanks.

Hi Leaf,

Yes and yes, please remember most isignstock buyers only download on average 2 images per week!

Thanks


« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2010, 04:07 »
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I guess we can do this like an Interview.

What sets your site(s) apart from the other Micros such as Shutterstock, Dreamstime, Fotolia and Istock?

Hi there!

To answer your question:

- isignstock targets the lucrative sign maker/printer industry.
- To this end it uniquely features vehicle templates, vehicle wraps, metallic layered files and vinyl ready as well as normal EPS vector files.
- Ingram is working with major sign machinery manufacturers who are helping bring the site to market through their extensive distribution channels
- isignstock is provided by an established stock agency Ingram Publishing which has existing sign maker, print and design buyers for its many other products.

Thanks,

Johnnie

« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2010, 04:48 »
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Yes and yes, please remember most isignstock buyers only download on average 2 images per week!

Thanks

That suggests to me that sales for most contributors are going to be few and far between and won't pay much anyway.

According to the UK site an annual 'Complete Subscription' costs 295. If a customer downloads 2 images per week (104 per year) then at 30% commission the contributor will receive just 85p (about $1.36) per sale __ and that's apparently for an 'extended license'.

Please can you explain what the 'extended license' means in this instance. Does it mean that the image can be replicated for an entire fleet of vehicles?

If a customer bought the 'Images only' subscription and downloaded the average of 2 images per week then the contributor would receive just 63p ($1.02) per sale. Of course in either case if the customer downloads more images than the average then there is no benefit to the contributor as they will simply be paid less per sale. As you have all the sales data I think you should be taking the risk and pay a fixed amount per sale.

Sorry Johnnie but I don't see that this is likely to generate any significant income for contributors __ maybe enough to buy an occasional frothy coffee by the sound of it.

RT


« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2010, 05:33 »
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@ Johnnie,

I notice you avoided answering my post in your most recent replies, from which I can only draw one conclusion!

Sorry but for me there's already enough sites that are paying us next to nothing, the advantage being they have the sales quantities to justify uploading there, as gostwyck has stated in his post above even at your quoted "average download of 2 images a week" it means we'd receive very little in return for our work and I'd be supporting a site that in my mind is taking a step backwards in the amount we're being paid in commissions by agencies.

Given the latest outcry over the iStockphoto commission cut I find it hard to believe any contributors that take this business seriously will support a commission structure such as yours.

« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2010, 05:54 »
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Could you describe the requirements for 'vinyl ready' vectors. I'm unfamiliar with this type of format.

« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2010, 06:35 »
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Do you have FTP Johnnie?  I was going to try uploading a few images to test things out and I could only find the browser uploader?

« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2010, 08:45 »
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Yes and yes, please remember most isignstock buyers only download on average 2 images per week!

Thanks

That suggests to me that sales for most contributors are going to be few and far between and won't pay much anyway.

According to the UK site an annual 'Complete Subscription' costs 295. If a customer downloads 2 images per week (104 per year) then at 30% commission the contributor will receive just 85p (about $1.36) per sale __ and that's apparently for an 'extended license'.

Please can you explain what the 'extended license' means in this instance. Does it mean that the image can be replicated for an entire fleet of vehicles?

If a customer bought the 'Images only' subscription and downloaded the average of 2 images per week then the contributor would receive just 63p ($1.02) per sale. Of course in either case if the customer downloads more images than the average then there is no benefit to the contributor as they will simply be paid less per sale. As you have all the sales data I think you should be taking the risk and pay a fixed amount per sale.

Sorry Johnnie but I don't see that this is likely to generate any significant income for contributors __ maybe enough to buy an occasional frothy coffee by the sound of it.

We expect to be selling tens of thousands of subscriptions and our average payment per image download is around one dollar. We have a direct sales team covering Europe and we have many existing customers who are in the process of subscribing or already have. May I add that our existing contributors on ingimage are generally very happy with their royalty payments.
 
The Vehicle Outlines Extended license is a subscription option for customers who just want access to this file type. With this they can download 1000 vehicle outlines over a year instead of the normal 200. They cant download images with this subscription option.

« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2010, 08:46 »
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@ Johnnie,

I notice you avoided answering my post in your most recent replies, from which I can only draw one conclusion!

Sorry but for me there's already enough sites that are paying us next to nothing, the advantage being they have the sales quantities to justify uploading there, as gostwyck has stated in his post above even at your quoted "average download of 2 images a week" it means we'd receive very little in return for our work and I'd be supporting a site that in my mind is taking a step backwards in the amount we're being paid in commissions by agencies.

Given the latest outcry over the iStockphoto commission cut I find it hard to believe any contributors that take this business seriously will support a commission structure such as yours.

Sorry to miss your post: Like many other libraries we have a high maximum download figure for marketing purposes. Some customers will feel uncomfortable with a smaller limit - even if they are very unlikely to reach it.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2010, 08:48 by Johnnie »

« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2010, 08:50 »
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Could you describe the requirements for 'vinyl ready' vectors. I'm unfamiliar with this type of format.

Hello. A vinyl ready file will have no overcuts or overlapping shapes - thus optimised for a vinyl cutting machine.

« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2010, 08:58 »
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Do you have FTP Johnnie?  I was going to try uploading a few images to test things out and I could only find the browser uploader?

Our new contributor area is currently using a browser upload and we encourage photographers to use this as it automatically extracts title and keyword information. However for larger submissions we can offer FTP support and will also accept external hard drives / DVDs.

« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2010, 00:50 »
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do u lock the file for certain period? do contributors have control over the files? to remove or disable?

« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2010, 04:19 »
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They are seriously calling themselves "iSignstock"?  Wow.  I smell an infringement lawsuit coming.   ::)

Are you guys aware Dreamstime just closed a stock site calling itself "Dreamstock"? 
« Last Edit: October 21, 2010, 04:23 by djpadavona »

« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2010, 07:59 »
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do u lock the file for certain period? do contributors have control over the files? to remove or disable?

Hi there. For removal requests we require 2 months for non exclusive and 6 months for exclusive. You can change metadata once images are live however you cant delete from your portfolio without prior contact.

« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2010, 21:44 »
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Has anybody had some files reviewed by them? A point of concern is that their Alexa ranking is very low, somewhere in the 2 million range. Will they get enough traffic?

« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2010, 03:39 »
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do u lock the file for certain period? do contributors have control over the files? to remove or disable?

Hi there. For removal requests we require 2 months for non exclusive and 6 months for exclusive. You can change metadata once images are live however you cant delete from your portfolio without prior contact.

Ouch.  A good reason not to contribute there.

« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2010, 01:29 »
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anyway to upload eps vector to get IPTC read from preview jpg? filling every IPTC data for eps vector is taking too much time.

« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2010, 01:48 »
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I uploaded some stuff last week to test the waters, but so far no sign of life. Has anybody gotten images reviewed?

« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2010, 04:17 »
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« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2010, 20:15 »
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Yea, I think I am going to take a pass on this one. I think I am better off with streamlining my Agencies and aim higher at the same time.

« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2010, 01:30 »
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bring up this question again, so there is no way to read IPTC for an eps vector?

anyway to upload eps vector to get IPTC read from preview jpg? filling every IPTC data for eps vector is taking too much time.

« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2010, 04:32 »
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bring up this question again, so there is no way to read IPTC for an eps vector?

anyway to upload eps vector to get IPTC read from preview jpg? filling every IPTC data for eps vector is taking too much time.

Hi there sorry for the slow reply.

Our current upload system does not support IPTC data extraction from JPG previews for EPS files. However there are a couple of ways around this. Firstly you could use our excel processor to upload a sheet of metadata. If you do not have the means to extract IPTC data into an excel sheet then we are happy to do this ourselves - all we require is that you send us your JPG previews via FTP or DVD.

We are currently developing full FTP support for the contributor area which will include JPG IPTC extraction for EPS files. I will keep you updated on this.

Thanks,

Johnnie

« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2010, 08:21 »
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I just tried to upload some images with releases and couldn't find a way to batch attach releases to images, and didn't see a way to attach several releases to a single image.  Am I missing something?

« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2010, 09:22 »
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I just tried to upload some images with releases and couldn't find a way to batch attach releases to images, and didn't see a way to attach several releases to a single image.  Am I missing something?

Hello. The best way to attach releases in batch is through the excel processor.

Firstly upload the relevant images and releases to your account. Then using our excel template list all filenames with the corresponding releases you wish to attach. Once processed, the releases will be linked to the images in your account. Please note a batch release application is also currently being worked on.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2010, 09:40 by Johnnie »

« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2010, 23:08 »
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Who do you partner with, because I found some of my images at your site?
http://www.isignstock.com/imagedetails/27152265_extInt0/02A164GN-Ingimage-Corner-of-a-tall-building.html

Also when looking at the "zoomed view - View image at 1000px", then there is not much of a watermark!

« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2010, 04:05 »
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Who do you partner with, because I found some of my images at your site?
http://www.isignstock.com/imagedetails/27152265_extInt0/02A164GN-Ingimage-Corner-of-a-tall-building.html

Also when looking at the "zoomed view - View image at 1000px", then there is not much of a watermark!


likewise, would be interesting to know who the partner is . . . .  and that 1000px view is a complete giveaway without a larger watermark.


 

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