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Agency Based Discussion => New Sites - General => Topic started by: OgR on October 06, 2009, 16:27
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Hi to all, i am newbie here, and don't know if it is fine to post messages like this here, but i will try,just want to shear with u ::)?! Few days ago i have founded the SWISS microstock agency, i have thought that it will be interesting to someone. Here is the link to their website - www.swisstock.com (http://www.swisstock.com)
Looks cool to me. :P
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doesn't look cool to me .. looks more like a holder page for a site that hasn't even went online yet. I don't excited until a site can provide enough buyers to justify uploading to.
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We, contributors need good analysis about invested work,time and returns for each agency...
Everything without that is waste of our time...
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Yeah, there is only the holder page for a site. The stock will go on on 2010 ) like it said on their webpage. There is minimum information about it, i just subscribed for newsletter from them, because i want to know more about this SWISS stock. Will see what they can provide to all of us...
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i want to know more about this SWISS stock. Will see what they can provide to all of us...
No, you don't. You just want to spam it around. I see you got edited on iStock already.
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Is Ogr(e) related to troll?
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I`m wasn't trying to post any commercial about this stock, i just want to shear information that i have with all of u!!!
Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
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Is Ogr(e) related to troll?
Ogr`s are ogr`s and troll`s are troll`s, this is random races to your regret )
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I`m wasn't trying to post any commercial about this stock, i just want to shear information that i have with all of u!!!
Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
You were sooo excited about a (yet another) site that isn't even running, that you took the time to register and post about an "under construction" page here?
Wow, that's enthusiasm.
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I`m wasn't trying to post any commercial about this stock, i just want to shear information that i have with all of u!!!
Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
You were sooo excited about a (yet another) site that isn't even running, that you took the time to register and post about an "under construction" page here?
Wow, that's enthusiasm.
Yes, i differ with my enthusiasm... )
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It looks like
http://anti-site.com/ (http://anti-site.com/)
;D
for now
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I`m wasn't trying to post any commercial about this stock, i just want to shear information that i have with all of u!!!
Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
You were sooo excited about a (yet another) site that isn't even running, that you took the time to register and post about an "under construction" page here?
Wow, that's enthusiasm.
Yes, i differ with my enthusiasm... )
OgR...shoot the people on this forum straight and they "might" be nicer...and from a simple marketing perspective, DON'T start soliciting a project until there is something to show...
most of the folks here are way more savy than you and i combined (hope i'm not insulting anyone on any level with that).
Biggles
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lol
"promote creative work of billions of creative minds"
Wow, billions, I can't wait for the next update on the 15th... it certainly tops SS with ONLY 195 thousand contributors :/
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Guys, I once again will repeat, i am not trying to create advertising to this site, i am the same mere mortal as well as all of you) if someone i have interested that information which i have given, i am only glad. will wait for 15 october, till next update. :-\
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Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches )
What the heck does the country it is located in, it's financial institutions or watchmakers in that country have to do with knowing how to run a stock photo library ???? You're not speaking to a bunch of naive children.
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Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches )
What the heck does the country it is located in, it's financial institutions or watchmakers in that country have to do with knowing how to run a stock photo library ???? You're not speaking to a bunch of naive children.
I`am agree with u, but when it will go on, then we will see how they can run photostock ! Now i don`t have any ideas what there will be?! Maybe it will be good enough to work with it or it will be the warsest photostock ever, i really don know... :-\
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I`m wasn't trying to post any commercial about this stock, i just want to shear information that i have with all of u!!!
Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
Thanks for trying to share, Ogr. Maybe someday Swissstock will
be something. No way to tell right now.
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At this stage of the microstock game they will probably be a secondary footnote... Sorry to say, but things are shaping up here and it ainīt pretty for newcomers to a crowded dance.
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Guys, I know that in a World WideWeb a heap of photo-stock agencies and only 5-7 of all the most popular and profitable, as a rule it those stocks which have appeared a very long time, and for all time in the network they have been changed a lot to reach full and competent work. But many of them, still got some problems that we don't like in them. We have got used to work with them already because this is our profit(or hobby for someone), and as first who make money are the owners of this stocks. Now the majority of stocks agencies is ignored simply by our requests on modification to simplify to us life, because they have already earned the money, system works properly(as they think so, but its not) and to they already especially it is not necessary to worry about us and our problems. I do not think that, in the near future can appear new stock agency resource which could not contain all those defects which are at those stocks, with we so have got used to work already, but I think that nevertheless it is necessary to try to affect a little a course of events, it is simple and it is elementary possible to try to write to this resources about our wishes which nevertheless they will consider, and it will be pleasant to ourselves to work, as there will be that we actually would like to see. And sorry about my spelling if it is wrong, i am russian ::) and thanx for your attention.
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^^^ Cutcaster is just about perfect for the contributor and I am sure the buyers would like them too. The problem is finding enough new buyers to keep the contributors interested. No site in the past few years has solved that problem and I doubt any new ones will, unless they find a completely different way to sell our images. I do think the way we sell our images could be improved, why do I have to pay istock 80% of my earnings? It is going to have to be something special to convince the contributors and buyers to use it.
Please don't just start up another microstock site. It wont make us any money and will be a complete waste of time. I am all for someone working out new ways for us to deal with buyers with reduced costs. It has been discussed here a few times and I hope one day it will happen.
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Yep!
There is hope for site like Cutcaster because new (or old) stock BID-ASK system....
But, I have to tell this again, premium collection isn't way to bring new costumer, that is maybe only for keeping existing...
New sites have to promote something better for buyers and contributors, but what?
I think that midstock need to clarify differences between their and microstock licenses...
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I have just visited the CutCuster.com - it SUX, no really it sux :D there is nothing intresting, the website is very poor, the search engine has surprised me when i have entered word "Love" in the search box...
http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100129630/Photo/A-Middle-Eastern-man-talking-on-a-mobile-phone-while-reading-a-n (http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100129630/Photo/A-Middle-Eastern-man-talking-on-a-mobile-phone-while-reading-a-n)
WHAT DOES THIS MAN HAVE WITH WORD LOVE ? )) no seriously what? i am not a racist, we are all people but just different, but i still don't get what does this photo has with word - LOVE? :-\
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Not sure that image could ever come up for the word "love."
The keywords for the image are
Family man, at Home, Keffiyeh, Middle Eastern, On The Phone, Arabic, Sitting, Color, Colour, Image, Facial Hair, Beard, Indoors, Inside, Interior, Mobile Phone, Newspaper, One Person, Reading, Smiling, Traditional Clothing, Vertical, Man, Middle Aged, 40s, Forties, Happy, Cellphone, relaxing, at home, sitting, sofa, couch, lounge, living room, paper, current affairs, mobile, cell, talking
It is an image by Monkey Business which I have to say is one of the best keyworders. And I just did a search for love on the site and didn't see this image in the first 8 pages of over 100 pages of results.
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^^^ There does seem to be some spurious results coming up on searches John. I just tried 'love' myself (so to speak!) and got a series of images of this castle;
http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100236966/Photo/An-monument- (http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100236966/Photo/An-monument-)
It doesn't have 'love' in the keywords, which are accurate to the image, but nonetheless I got 7 images of the castle on the first page.
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^^^ There does seem to be some spurious results coming up on searches John. I just tried 'love' myself (so to speak!) and got a series of images of this castle;
[url]http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100236966/Photo/An-monument-[/url] ([url]http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100236966/Photo/An-monument-[/url])
It doesn't have 'love' in the keywords, which are accurate to the image, but nonetheless I got 7 images of the castle on the first page.
Pardon my reappearance but I got the same result. The reason is the compound keyword "loves one". The search algorithm triggers on hits of substrings, in this case "loves one". I notified John many months ago about this issue (which gives very weird search results) and he promised he would take care of it immediately. As with my previous email a year ago about the too limited size of the IFRAMES that gives me RSI when uploading, I got a nice reply and nothing got done at all.
Looking back at the image, the compound keyword "loves one" has gone between the first and this message on MSG so I guess John sneaked in and removed it. Wouldn't it be better to just address the issue fundamentally instead of patching images quickly when they get flagged in public?
Another image where this problem pops up is this one, searching for the keyword "sun": here (http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100017847/Photo/Chairs-in-office). The reason is the compound keyword "sunlit office" that triggers the match on "sun". The shorter and the more general the keyword, the higher the chance you'll get false hits of course.
If I was a buyer, I would be fast out of Cutcaster, sorry to say so. Too much bad hits that aren't the fault of the contributor but of the defective search engine. Try "rat", and find this "corporate businessman" here (http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100219755/Photo/Businessman-in-Waiting-Room). I learned the difference between str() and substr() functions in my second week programming class. Who is programming this site?
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Try to look for "Indian businessman" on CutCaster: the first and second results pages are full of Indian food dishes with no businessman at all in it. Not too surprisingly, most are from Moneybusinessimages that obviously struck a nice private deal with John for the front page that leaves us poor amateurs drooling for a sale every 2 months or so.
At the end of page 2 we see this image (http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100219765/Photo/Hard-Day-at-the-Gym) of a Caucasian fitnesser in the gym, hardly an Indian businessman. Follows a series of non-Indian businessmen on page 3, like this one (http://www.cutcaster.com/viewmedia/view/100280380/Photo/team) and more of the same in a row on page 4.
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I would very much like to respond but this thread is not my place. If you want to start one in Cutcaster and just cut and paste that into a thread I can respond but its not fair to swisstock and I am sorry if it somehow got turned to Cutcaster.
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I have just visited the CutCuster.com - it SUX
If you just visited the well-known CutCaster after reading this thread, I'm not too impressed with your market exploration before starting "Swis"stock.
If as you "sheared" with us, you are a Russian group, why leech the Swiss quality reputation? Your site is hosted in Moldavia and your contact details are hidden on whois (http://www.cubestat.com/www.swisstock.com). Your "Swiss" umbrella is as genuine as the Vuiton handbags and the Rolex watches on the street markets of Bejing.
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Quote from: OgR on October 06, 2009, 17:21
I`m wasn't trying to post any commercial about this stock, i just want to shear information that i have with all of u!!!
Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
I don't have nothing with this swisstock, and what about cutcaster - I have only expressed my opinion about it, and as you can see, not only I am disappointed in it!
If I have touched somebodies feelings with my own words about Cutcaster, please forgive me, i did not wanted to do that :-X
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Quote from: OgR on October 06, 2009, 17:21
I`m wasn't trying to post any commercial about this stock, i just want to shear information that i have with all of u!!!
Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
I don't have nothing with this swisstock, and what about cutcaster - I have only expressed my opinion about it, and as you can see, not only I am disappointed in it!
If I have touched somebodies feelings with my own words about Cutcaster, please forgive me, i did not wanted to do that :-X
Really? Then what did you want?
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Quote from: OgR on October 06, 2009, 17:21
I`m wasn't trying to post any commercial about this stock, i just want to shear information that i have with all of u!!!
Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
I don't have nothing with this swisstock, and what about cutcaster - I have only expressed my opinion about it, and as you can see, not only I am disappointed in it!
If I have touched somebodies feelings with my own words about Cutcaster, please forgive me, i did not wanted to do that :-X
Really? Then what did you want?
Read more attentively! " I have only expressed my opinion about it, and as you can see, not only I am disappointed in it!"
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I would give up now if I were you. Everytime you post your company loses credibility. A lot of people read these forums and word gets round. We're not complete idiots here and you're not the first and I'm sure your not the last to come into this forum and pretend to not be associated with the company that you are pimping. If you had been upfront then maybe people would have listened to you and taken you a bit more seriously.
Quote from: OgR on October 06, 2009, 17:21
I`m wasn't trying to post any commercial about this stock, i just want to shear information that i have with all of u!!!
Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
I don't have nothing with this swisstock, and what about cutcaster - I have only expressed my opinion about it, and as you can see, not only I am disappointed in it!
If I have touched somebodies feelings with my own words about Cutcaster, please forgive me, i did not wanted to do that :-X
Really? Then what did you want?
Read more attentively! " I have only expressed my opinion about it, and as you can see, not only I am disappointed in it!"
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Probably it will be good enough, as Switzerland nevertheless is famous for the reliability of banks and watches ) and not only
You are not Swiss. You said to be Russians, the site is hosted in Moldavia, and the contact details are hidden on whois. And by the way, I guess you mean sharing information and not shearing it. Although the latter may be closer to the truth. ;)
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That looks EXTREMELY interesting and reliable since Switzerland is associated with watches. I now subscribe to their newsletter and am about to burst of excitement.
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That looks EXTREMELY interesting and reliable since Switzerland is associated with watches.
Switch watches are produced in China (http://www.swatch.com/cn_zh/home.html), also the real ones. Ipods are produced in China too.
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That looks EXTREMELY interesting and reliable since Switzerland is associated with watches.
Switch watches are produced in China ([url]http://www.swatch.com/cn_zh/home.html[/url]), also the real ones. Ipods are produced in China too.
what do you want to prove by showing this? the stock is NOT started yet, and if DOMAIN name registered and located in MOLDOVA it doesn't means that the company "SWISSTOCK" is Russian or Moldovian or something else... Maybe it is a branch of some SWIS company, that is located in Moldova?! And what da heck, when the stock starts then we will see what he presents from it self.
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That looks EXTREMELY interesting and reliable since Switzerland is associated with watches.
Switch watches are produced in China ([url]http://www.swatch.com/cn_zh/home.html[/url]), also the real ones. Ipods are produced in China too.
Well, this makes SWISSTOCK totally unreliable as a stock photo company, and I have now unsubscribed.
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No, seriously 2/5 of you react like i am the owner of this stock and trying to prove something here about it...
I know about it as much as u do. If for the most of you so it is critical that the domain is registered in Moldova, then i really don't know what to think?! ) Dreamtime is Romanian and American company, so what? most of you working with this stock, so am i, and i don't care where is registered their domain name. :-\
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I know about it as much as u do. If for the most of you so it is critical that the domain is registered in Moldova, then i really don't know what to think?! ) Dreamtime is Romanian and American company, so what? most of you working with this stock, so am i, and i don't care where is registered their domain name.
You were faking all the time, mentioning Swiss reliable watches, naming your site "swisstock", but your group is Russian. It smells scam all over, since you didn't mention Moldavia, but Switzerland first. I found out about Moldavia, and your hidden info on whois. Dreamstime has always been honest and they are an American brand and they do have a US office. You didn't know your competitors like CutCaster at all. Have a nice day ;-)
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@OgR
I just saw in your profile a link to your I stock account....
I checked your account on istock and your location ....MOLDOVA coincidence or ????????
Makes people wonder....
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I reckon Swissstock will focus on images taken in Switzerland or related to this country, as for example: www.dietz.ch (http://www.dietz.ch).
Not exactly my niche, but I assume that OgR has an impressive portfolio of Swiss landscapes/ cityscapes since he is so interested and so eager to contribute even before the site has launched. :P
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I guess Moldavian watches and banks are great. :)
What happened with his account at DT? It's disabled. Did DT find out he was behind a competing stock site?
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No, seriously 2/5 of you react like i am the owner of this stock and trying to prove something here about it...
I know about it as much as u do. If for the most of you so it is critical that the domain is registered in Moldova, then i really don't know what to think?! ) Dreamtime is Romanian and American company, so what? most of you working with this stock, so am i, and i don't care where is registered their domain name. :-\
We do, MOLDOVA REPUBLIC OF CHISINAU is not Swiss and the entire spam that you found a new site before it is a site and live there is mighty suspicious. Next time cover your tracks better.
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i don't think we will get anything more out of this 'conversation' so this thread is now locked and it will happily float into the archives