MicrostockGroup Sponsors


Author Topic: Solid Stock Art  (Read 16643 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Microbius

« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2013, 07:22 »
0
Hi All,

 Just an FYI but Fine Art America sells very well for our Spaces Images as art work. We have been very happy with their sales results. They take individuals work as well.

Best,
Jonathan
?


« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2013, 19:16 »
0
Is anybody submitting there? Any experience? Any sales?

Microbius

« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2013, 06:17 »
0
I thought I would give them a try. I've had several sales and have an RPD of around the $10 mark, way above any of the other micros.

I thought long and hard about whether or not to sign up because of the wider ranging license but in the end thought it was worth a try because of the decent prices and higher compensation levels. I figure that a lot of buyer will not be making use of the extra terms plus some will be buying that would not have bought an extended license on the other sites and would still me making extended license use of the image.

I am not uploading on an ongoing basis, just uploaded some work to see how it goes. I want to wait to make sure they don't pull any Pocketstock style scams (promising higher prices then selling even cheaper than the competition) or start selling subs with these license terms. If they do I am pulling the lot out.


« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2013, 06:44 »
+2
I thought I would give them a try. I've had several sales and have an RPD of around the $10 mark, way above any of the other micros.

I thought long and hard about whether or not to sign up because of the wider ranging license but in the end thought it was worth a try because of the decent prices and higher compensation levels. I figure that a lot of buyer will not be making use of the extra terms plus some will be buying that would not have bought an extended license on the other sites and would still me making extended license use of the image.

I am not uploading on an ongoing basis, just uploaded some work to see how it goes. I want to wait to make sure they don't pull any Pocketstock style scams (promising higher prices then selling even cheaper than the competition) or start selling subs with these license terms. If they do I am pulling the lot out.

I haven't tried them but I see a few top contributors doing such, anyway to keep a 10$ RPD looks quite hard not to mention such a wide license, don't think this is the right approach if we want stock "sustainable" in the future, we are talking about "an EL" for a > 20 MP (16$ our share) or a 500px for 1$

Microbius

« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2013, 07:19 »
0
Agreed you definitely shouldn't go into it without giving it a lot of thought. Personally I think most of my sales weren't made to people who would have bought an extended license on the other sites. As long I maintain a high enough RPD there I will leave my work on the site. If I see it drop to somewhere close to the other micros I will be pulling my work. I had some back and forth with the owner from the outset and it seemed to me they have thought through the implications.

I certainly wouldn't push anyone to make the leap, take a look and decide for yourselves.

« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2013, 08:09 »
+1
the site looks amateur, even i am not a professional designer i find something is wrong with it ha.

Microbius

« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2013, 08:42 »
0
the site looks amateur, even i am not a professional designer i find something is wrong with it ha.
It does look a bit busy for my liking, they definitely need to tone it down a bit.

« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2013, 21:47 »
0
I thought I would give them a try. I've had several sales and have an RPD of around the $10 mark, way above any of the other micros.

I thought long and hard about whether or not to sign up because of the wider ranging license but in the end thought it was worth a try because of the decent prices and higher compensation levels. I figure that a lot of buyer will not be making use of the extra terms plus some will be buying that would not have bought an extended license on the other sites and would still me making extended license use of the image.

How large is your portfolio with them?

Tryingmybest

  • Stand up for what is right
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2013, 10:32 »
0
I have joined. Got an invitation from referral. I'll give them a try. I will say, however, their release procedure is confusing to me. They have two folders on the FTP.  :-\ I wish it was simpler.

« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2013, 13:48 »
0

and again I ask myself, how far can we go before agencies end up business with us?

we seen many cases of kicking out for less but contributors willing to offer XS licenses for FREE and this new one giving EL for 2$ look they are still safe...

$2 EL .....no comments....

ah we get 1$ ;D
We will lock down artist registration from time to time to keep our artist pool small.
[/quote]

Are you serious!  Why as an artist would I spend a lot of time uploading (and yes it's an investment of time) my portfolio only to have it "locked down" possibly at sometime????

« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2013, 11:19 »
0
anyone have any sales here... Should I spend my time and upload my images here?

« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2013, 11:27 »
+2
anyone have any sales here... Should I spend my time and upload my images here?


why would you or other? they are offering EL in every license :o

http://www.solidstockart.com/royalty-freedom

« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2013, 14:04 »
0

and again I ask myself, how far can we go before agencies end up business with us?

we seen many cases of kicking out for less but contributors willing to offer XS licenses for FREE and this new one giving EL for 2$ look they are still safe...

$2 EL .....no comments....

ah we get 1$ ;D
We will lock down artist registration from time to time to keep our artist pool small.

Are you serious!  Why as an artist would I spend a lot of time uploading (and yes it's an investment of time) my portfolio only to have it "locked down" possibly at sometime????
[/quote]

It is not your portfolio that they lock down. They only "lock down" signup for new contributors from time to time.

EmberMike

« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2013, 09:49 »
0
I was emailing back and forth with Taylor back in July. I think he really wants Solid Stock Art to work and be a place that contributors want to be a part of. But like I told him, to me we're just too far apart in what we can do. I'm not looking to get involved in any new companies where I'm getting a worse deal than I get at most other places. And even at the highest price point, at Solid I'd be getting something like $24 for what amounts to an EL when I'm getting $28 at SS. And that's only for the stuff that's priced at the highest level. A lot of my stuff I'm sure would be priced lower.

To his credit, though, Taylor was responsive to the criticism I had about the licensing terminology, particularly the frequent use of the word "unlimited" in describing the license. I suggested that the term "unlimited" sends the wrong message, making customers think they can do anything with the images they purchase. They have since changed much of the terminology on the site and made it more clear that there are indeed limits to the license.

« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2013, 10:05 »
+1
had the same experience Mike but nothing changed and I am not willing to get 1$ for a XS EL license

« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2013, 10:23 »
+1
This site is sooo going bankrupt..  :D

do they think we are in 2004 or what?

no newcomer is going to conquer "2013 contributors" with sad and depressing business models like this..

we live in a time where if you are an agency you have to:

- offer %50-70 royalties to contributors,
- let them set their own prices, (their prices are very low if EL's are included)
- have licensing terms that are not a disgrace,

if you want to attract serious contributors.. otherwise you are going to be stuck being a "hobbyist magnet" which will not take you too far..
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 10:32 by cidepix »

« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2013, 11:53 »
0


and again I ask myself, how far can we go before agencies end up business with us?

we seen many cases of kicking out for less but contributors willing to offer XS licenses for FREE and this new one giving EL for 2$ look they are still safe...

$2 EL .....no comments....

ah we get 1$ ;D
We will lock down artist registration from time to time to keep our artist pool small.

Are you serious!  Why as an artist would I spend a lot of time uploading (and yes it's an investment of time) my portfolio only to have it "locked down" possibly at sometime????

It is not your portfolio that they lock down. They only "lock down" signup for new contributors from time to time.
[/quote]


Thanks for clarifying.

Quantity is great if it is quality :)

« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2013, 07:15 »
0
Check this out:
http://www.solidstockart.com/stock-photo-illustration-quality
A page on their site where 'quality' is spelled wrong at every turn: the labels say Quailty (?) and they frequently spell it as 'quaility'. Very unprofessional.

Secondly, they falsely claim to pay out the highest royalty percentage in the industry (50%), while for example GLStock pays 52%.

Thirdly, they say: "At Solid, you search for "apple tree", you'll get images of an apple tree. Not pine trees. Not a bowl of apples."
When I search for apple tree, I'm getting:
- a bunch of apples without the tree: http://www.solidstockart.com/stock-photo-fresh-tropical-wax-apples-for-sale-at-the-farmers-market-136553
- a woman holding an apple: http://photo.solidstockartcontent.com/stock-photo-close-up-portrait-of-smiling-blonde-woman-in-black-ruffle-dress-with-gloves-holding-green-apple-438811.png
- a grunge tree icon: http://www.solidstockart.com/stock-photo-grunge-tree-icon-with-reflection-385492
- a woman with a bowl of apples: http://www.solidstockart.com/stock-photo-autumn-country-woman-with-wicker-basket-361419
- more bowls of apples: http://www.solidstockart.com/stock-photo-ripe-apples-in-the-grass-next-to-a-wicker-basket-full-of-apples-136369

« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2013, 21:38 »
0
I'm uploading images there because:

1) No subscription plans. I do science fiction and fantasy renders, which I think is too niche and doesn't have the volume for $.42 returns. That's what I probably got when one of my renders appeared on a Penguin/Roc cover.

2) They don't make me convert my renders to JPEG and remove the transparency. My transparent PNGs are displayed on a nice checkered background.

That said, I'm not expecting a huge amount of sales right away.

« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2013, 05:42 »
+2
I'm uploading images there because:

1) No subscription plans. I do science fiction and fantasy renders, which I think is too niche and doesn't have the volume for $.42 returns. That's what I probably got when one of my renders appeared on a Penguin/Roc cover.

2) They don't make me convert my renders to JPEG and remove the transparency. My transparent PNGs are displayed on a nice checkered background.

That said, I'm not expecting a huge amount of sales right away.

so are you happy having clients using your pictures as EL if needed without paying something like 85$ at SS?

« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2013, 15:14 »
0
I've seen too many cases where people were likely using a subscription or an on-demand SL for an EL use. Not with my images, but with others'.

While my stuff might appear on a web template, most of it is geared toward book covers, which are SL most of the time anyway.

Except for when premade book covers are concerned.

In the self-publishing world, many designers sell a single-use book cover mock-up to self-published authors. The designers change the sample text for the authors' names and titles. Even though only one customization happens per book cover, many agencies see these covers as templates or merchandise, meaning EL and not SL. Commissioning a custom cover would be SL use.

However, many designers didn't and probably still don't know this. They think "ebook covers=SL use."

http://www.kboards.com/index.php?topic=155206.0

I'd rather these book cover designers use my stuff while complying with a license agreement. I'd also rather get $5 or $10 per download than $.42 while hoping for the rare $50.

In short: yeah I've given this a lot of thought.

« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2013, 15:33 »
+1
In short: yeah I've given this a lot of thought.

In short: royalties from 4$ (1200px and Solid collection) to 16.495$ (5600px and Solid collection)

we have all gave this a big thought and selling an EL in every purchase doesn't look reasonable, not to mention it is undercutting all other agencies we are contributing already, close to 10% of my income at SS come from EL

« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2013, 15:57 »
0
Sure. Whatever works best for your situation, but remember I spent two posts explaining how mine is a bit different.

« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2013, 15:58 »
0
Sure. Whatever works best for your situation, but remember I spent two posts explaining how mine is a bit different.

appreciated your explanation, cheers!

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2013, 02:43 »
0
I don't understand their "Width and height above 3200 pixels."
It means from 3200 to 5600, right?
5600 pixels if far to be considered as Large file, no? (I would consider it as XXL :) )


 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
27 Replies
30967 Views
Last post July 24, 2011, 02:58
by rvvelde
17 Replies
12677 Views
Last post May 16, 2009, 17:14
by Phil
5 Replies
8327 Views
Last post July 24, 2009, 14:29
by cascoly
212 Replies
62412 Views
Last post September 06, 2012, 13:46
by JPSDK
9 Replies
3968 Views
Last post March 08, 2014, 06:39
by munrotoo

Sponsors

Mega Bundle of 5,900+ Professional Lightroom Presets

Microstock Poll Results

Sponsors