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tee

« on: July 20, 2014, 23:34 »
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Hi all - I wanted to share a niche stock site I recently created that has more of a creative/artistic bent than usual, but still has mid-to-micro-stock price points.

It's called ArtsyStock, it's brand new, and I'd be interested in your opinions if you'd be generous enough to offer them. There aren't too many photographs at the moment, but we'll accept any medium so long as the result is interesting. The collection is very small right now since we're so new, but growing at a good pace.

ArtsyStock isn't really meant to offer the painting equivalents of handshake images, as you'll see, and the usefulness for designers lies in niche areas and with creative solutions to design problems. Customers can also use the images they buy for a gallery-quality print, so there's a bit more flexibility there compared to a standard art print site for your average art buyer looking for a deal. On the seller's end we start everyone off with 51% royalty rates, capping off at 75%, based on lifetime sales (no yearly "redeemed credits" in other words).

Many thanks for checking out the site. :)

http://www.artsystock.com/
« Last Edit: August 04, 2014, 13:01 by tee »


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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 00:49 »
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Some questions ask you?

1. Sign in non 'artsystock.com' Why should other sites?
http://www.foundmyself.com/sell-art-stock.php

2. I would like to know is whether the bulk upload?

tee

« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 01:06 »
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Some questions ask you?

1. Sign in non 'artsystock.com' Why should other sites?
http://www.foundmyself.com/sell-art-stock.php

2. I would like to know is whether the bulk upload?

Thanks for the questions. So ...

1) Right - ArtsyStock is a standalone site that mirrors the art stock images for sale on Foundmyself, which is an online art community. In that way I hoped to focus the message, since FM's bells and whistles meant for artists might get in the way of the art stock images. From the seller's end, all the work is done on Foundmyself, and the results are mirrored on ArtsyStock. It's similar to how other stock sites have sister sites, but it's different in that none of the pricing or royalties change between sites.

2) You can upload up to ten images at a time as an approved contributor.

« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 01:07 »
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I couldn't find a copy of the license anywhere. Price doesn't really tell you much unless you can see the details of what rights are being sold.

I see that you're not accepting recognizable people - is that just because you haven't figured out handling of model releases yet? If that's the case, then you probably want to also consider the property release issues for anything (home interiors) shot on private property. A lot of stock sites require us to submit property releases for photos of our own artwork (just to be on the safe side).

Excluding people images really cuts back on a subject in high demand. Are you planning to change that?

Who do you think your buyers might be? People currently using the stock image web sites but who are bored with the sameness of what they find, or some new group that doesn't currently buy stock images? Other than thinking that I probably don't have any work that would be of interest, I'm also a bit at a loss to imagine commercial uses for the work I see currently.

How are you planning to market the site?

The other things you'll need if you expect people to upload is the ability to read IPTC data from the JPEGs or EPS - is that in place now? Do you accept vectors or just JPEGs?

Your locks on content seem a bit excessive for a new site - 60 days to close an account (during which time the art remains on sale), and no more than 25% of your portfolio can be deleted in a 90 day period. Why do you feel you need those? When you're an unknown quantity, that's a lot of trust to ask for.

You mention affiliates in this paragraph of the contributor agreement, and it taking an additional 60 days to remove work from them:

"Foundmyself shall use reasonable efforts to remove identical Content to that which was removed from Foundmyself from Foundmyself Websites, including co-branded affiliates, if they exist, within sixty (60) days of removal from Foundmyself."

First that seems excessive - an extra 60 days - and second, I hope you're planning to allow contributors to opt out of affiliate sales, and to publish a list of any such sites for contributors to see. There have been no end of problems with finding our work scattered all over the place and not knowing which agency licensed it, how much we would be paid, etc.

Then you have a term about not disclosing earnings (similar to the gag attempt Shutterstock made a number of months back):

"By submitting Content to Foundmyself, you acknowledge that you will acquire certain confidential information, including but not limited to royalty payments, purchase history, and earnings data (collectively, Confidential Information). Confidential Information shall not be disclosed to any third party other than representatives, attorneys, accountants, auditors and advisors with a bona fide need to know, who shall first agree to keep the terms confidential."

If you spend any time looking around MSG, you'll see that contributors keep track of how sites are doing and which ones are worth uploading to by talking about earnings, royalty rates, etc. People will talk your site up if they're doing well there or tell others it's not worth it if they're not. If you start closing accounts if people engage in that sort of discussion, I doubt anyone here will be interested in submitting to your site.


« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 01:28 »
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if you are marketing your site on forums you might want a better thread title than what you have.

tee

« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 01:36 »
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Jo Ann - thanks very much for your thoughts. I'm off to bed now but will be reading again and responding to your post in the morning with a fresh brain. :P

tee

« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2014, 13:17 »
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Thanks again for the questions and helpful comments. Here are some answers and details:

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover2
I couldn't find a copy of the license anywhere.

You can find it if you click the "Download" link on any image, or in the FAQ section, which is found through a link on the "About" page.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover2
I see that you're not accepting recognizable people - is that just because you haven't figured out handling of model releases yet? If that's the case, then you probably want to also consider the property release issues for anything (home interiors) shot on private property. A lot of stock sites require us to submit property releases for photos of our own artwork (just to be on the safe side).

There's some slack with faces if it's an artistic representation and the artists states that the face was created entirely from their imagination. Interesting point about the property release being used in this context, too.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover2
Who do you think your buyers might be? People currently using the stock image web sites but who are bored with the sameness of what they find, or some new group that doesn't currently buy stock images?

Mainly the art print buyer, who with ArtsyStock can not only create a print (one for personal use) but also retain the file and use it for other purposes; and also for the people tired of flipping through pages of similar stock photos that you mention - especially those looking for something with an artistic bent.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover2
The other things you'll need if you expect people to upload is the ability to read IPTC data from the JPEGs or EPS - is that in place now? Do you accept vectors or just JPEGs?

Yes, the system reads IPTC data, and at this point we're only accepting rasters.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover2
Your locks on content seem a bit excessive for a new site - 60 days to close an account (during which time the art remains on sale), and no more than 25% of your portfolio can be deleted in a 90 day period. Why do you feel you need those? When you're an unknown quantity, that's a lot of trust to ask for.

So far the contributors haven't mentioned it as an issue, but I'm flexible to adjusting the details if there's a need.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover2
I hope you're planning to allow contributors to opt out of affiliate sales, and to publish a list of any such sites for contributors to see. There have been no end of problems with finding our work scattered all over the place and not knowing which agency licensed it, how much we would be paid, etc.

Right now there are only two - Foundmyself and ArtsyStock, and the pricing structure, license, and everything else is the same on both.

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover2
If you spend any time looking around MSG, you'll see that contributors keep track of how sites are doing and which ones are worth uploading to by talking about earnings, royalty rates, etc. People will talk your site up if they're doing well there or tell others it's not worth it if they're not. If you start closing accounts if people engage in that sort of discussion, I doubt anyone here will be interested in submitting to your site.

Good point.

 :)

« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2014, 13:33 »
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That was a long nap :)

« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2014, 14:32 »
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That was a long nap :)

 ;D ;D ;D  any relation to serbian and sleepy time... i mean, dreamstime ;D

tee

« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2014, 15:16 »
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That was a long nap :)
;D I didn't say which morning.  ;)


 

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