Author Topic: Moldels and Money ? (Read 9597 times)

zeamonkey · « **Reply #25 on:** July 29, 2013, 06:36 »

Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 06:29

Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 05:51
On facebook there are many pages for models, photographers, makeup artist etc where people are seeking models, announce jobs etc. Just search for them.
I don't use Fb to search (though I heard yesterday to my astonishment that it's overtaking Google search), so I tried model and my home area and got 0 results. Then I tried model Glasgow (nearest city, just for research) and found three, one of whom is with an agency, so probably won't do stock one is covered with tattoos and one is an actor, so possibly won't do stock (but might).
What do you search for that you find 'many'?

I hardly need to search for them since FB suggest them to me based on my interests, like this one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/221160901268726/

ShadySue · « **Reply #26 on:** July 29, 2013, 06:43 »

Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 06:36

Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 06:29
Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 05:51
On facebook there are many pages for models, photographers, makeup artist etc where people are seeking models, announce jobs etc. Just search for them.
I don't use Fb to search (though I heard yesterday to my astonishment that it's overtaking Google search), so I tried model and my home area and got 0 results. Then I tried model Glasgow (nearest city, just for research) and found three, one of whom is with an agency, so probably won't do stock one is covered with tattoos and one is an actor, so possibly won't do stock (but might).
What do you search for that you find 'many'?
I hardly need to search for them since FB suggest them to me based on my interests, like this one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/221160901268726/

I don't get any suggestions of local models, and my search terms didn't help, I wondered if you had different search terms.

zeamonkey · « **Reply #27 on:** July 29, 2013, 06:48 »

Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 06:43

Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 06:36
Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 06:29
Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 05:51
On facebook there are many pages for models, photographers, makeup artist etc where people are seeking models, announce jobs etc. Just search for them.
I don't use Fb to search (though I heard yesterday to my astonishment that it's overtaking Google search), so I tried model and my home area and got 0 results. Then I tried model Glasgow (nearest city, just for research) and found three, one of whom is with an agency, so probably won't do stock one is covered with tattoos and one is an actor, so possibly won't do stock (but might).
What do you search for that you find 'many'?
I hardly need to search for them since FB suggest them to me based on my interests, like this one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/221160901268726/
I don't get any suggestions of local models, and my search terms didn't help, I wondered if you had different search terms.

I just tried 'modelling UK'. Returned 7 pages, probably not all usefull for our purpose but a starting point for searches.

ShadySue · « **Reply #28 on:** July 29, 2013, 07:00 »

Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 06:48

Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 06:43
Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 06:36
Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 06:29
Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 05:51
On facebook there are many pages for models, photographers, makeup artist etc where people are seeking models, announce jobs etc. Just search for them.
I don't use Fb to search (though I heard yesterday to my astonishment that it's overtaking Google search), so I tried model and my home area and got 0 results. Then I tried model Glasgow (nearest city, just for research) and found three, one of whom is with an agency, so probably won't do stock one is covered with tattoos and one is an actor, so possibly won't do stock (but might).
What do you search for that you find 'many'?
I hardly need to search for them since FB suggest them to me based on my interests, like this one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/221160901268726/
I don't get any suggestions of local models, and my search terms didn't help, I wondered if you had different search terms.
I just tried 'modelling UK'. Returned 7 pages, probably not all usefull for our purpose but a starting point for searches.

I tried 'modelling Ayrshire' (my home area) and got 0.

zeamonkey · « **Reply #29 on:** July 29, 2013, 07:06 »

Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 07:00

Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 06:48
Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 06:43
Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 06:36
Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 06:29
Quote from: zeamonkey on July 29, 2013, 05:51
On facebook there are many pages for models, photographers, makeup artist etc where people are seeking models, announce jobs etc. Just search for them.
I don't use Fb to search (though I heard yesterday to my astonishment that it's overtaking Google search), so I tried model and my home area and got 0 results. Then I tried model Glasgow (nearest city, just for research) and found three, one of whom is with an agency, so probably won't do stock one is covered with tattoos and one is an actor, so possibly won't do stock (but might).
What do you search for that you find 'many'?
I hardly need to search for them since FB suggest them to me based on my interests, like this one: https://www.facebook.com/groups/221160901268726/
I don't get any suggestions of local models, and my search terms didn't help, I wondered if you had different search terms.
I just tried 'modelling UK'. Returned 7 pages, probably not all usefull for our purpose but a starting point for searches.
I tried 'modelling Ayrshire' (my home area) and got 0.

The more local it is, the harder it would be to find, I agree.

vsaboya · « **Reply #30 on:** August 04, 2013, 16:44 »

My two cents:

Start with TFP or friends, sisters, cousins. Is better to start looking what sells before putting your money on a pro model and find that you dont get the correct pictures or took pictures that dont sell and u waste your money

1000$, seriously? Too much money for micro I guess. Start like Sean told you, no more than 100$ is a so high amount of money to recover your investment

Ed · « **Reply #31 on:** August 05, 2013, 20:28 »

Quote from: leaf on July 28, 2013, 10:08

I always pay my models as well. They are doing a professional job and I am making money from their image. I feel it is only fair to pay them. I also give them copies of the images if they want.

I have found models through model mayhem (mixed results), street casting (some good model finds there), and friends of friends on facebook (great results there recently).

In Canada I pay models $30/hr if I haven't used them before and $50/hr if I have used them before. It feels a little high and I could probably get away with paying less. A shoot can easily get to $1000 in modelling fees, but I'm not worried if I'll make the money back (I know I will - at least on the average) so I'm happy to share some of the income with the models.... especially the best ones that I use over and over.

I agree with this 100%. I pay models $30 - $40 per hour (that includes makeup time). Good models that actually show up and don't flake out are hard to find.

leaf · « **Reply #32 on:** August 05, 2013, 22:06 »

Quote from: vsaboya on August 04, 2013, 16:44

My two cents:

Start with TFP or friends, sisters, cousins. Is better to start looking what sells before putting your money on a pro model and find that you dont get the correct pictures or took pictures that dont sell and u waste your money

1000$, seriously? Too much money for micro I guess. Start like Sean told you, no more than 100$ is a so high amount of money to recover your investment

$1000, yes.. at times. Last week it was 5 models for 4 hrs at $50/hr each. I could have done the shoot with 2 models but wanted to get more variety and 'looks'.

And it all depends on the shoot. I fully agree that it is worth your time to use family and friends when starting out. TFP is also a good option. Get comfortable with shooting with models and experiment with what sells. I am only using models at that price on shoots that I know are going to give me a return on my investment. Generally, the best selling image from a shoot will easily pay for all the modelling fees from that shoot. If you don't have good models who can pose and make their facial expression like you ask, you may not get that good selling shot.

I also feel like locations are a bit more of a premium than the models so I book several models to have several variations of the same shot at a shoot. I could do the shoot with half the models and get half the variations but feel it is the best use of my time to get all the shots in a single shoot, even if half the models have to wait some of the time. I also feel it is OK for the models to get a little break in the shoot when they aren't being used. Having multiple models also gives me a little insurance. If one get's sick the shoot doesn't have to be cancelled - which risks that the location is lost for good.

Ed · « **Reply #33 on:** August 06, 2013, 20:51 »

Models that know how to model, or actors that know how to act, are worth their weight in gold. They can provide you with more than enough expressions and poses than you can edit in 6 hours. The cool thing about it is, you go in with an idea of what you need...an experienced model will provide suggestions and various moments of "I can do this" that can lead to AT LEAST double the amount of images than the average Model Mayhem model that has a claw hand, high opinion of herself/himself, and who won't show up to your shoot 75% of the time.

Treat your models well. Build a relationship with them.

Saul12 · « **Reply #34 on:** September 13, 2013, 21:59 »

The 1s I ended up working with were happy, i mean to be getting professional quality photos done free of charge there is no need to pay them. They ended up using the photos for their own personal portfolios.

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