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« on: December 21, 2008, 16:30 »
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Is it ok to post the pictures that I have on microstock sites on flickr as well?  ???


« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2008, 16:37 »
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what I do sometime is post a screen capture of my microstock image with the agency watermark but without any links, I am pretty sure Flickr refuse that

« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2008, 17:32 »
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what I do sometime is post a screen capture of my microstock image with the agency watermark but without any links, I am pretty sure Flickr refuse that
I had my PAID Flickr subscription canceled without notification probably because of links in the picture description to RF sites. 25$ down the drains. Just avoid Flickr. I had about a thousand free geotagged travel/landmark photos there, all gone. Since then, I even avoid Yahoo, except to drain their free services like email with unlimited net storage.

« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2008, 08:53 »
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I back up all my photos on Smugmug.com which is similiar to Flickr.   It cost me about $150/year for a pro account.    I can sell prints, coffemugs, photobooks, and even digital downloads on the site.  I actually made a $350 editorial sale a few weeks ago.  My galleries that I have keyworded come up very nicely with google searches.  They are suppose to be launching a stock photo service sometime in the near future where I believe they will start being more aggressive with recruiting photo buyers.   I disable the ability for people to purchase digital downloads from me on Smugmug.  I prefer the potential buyer to contact me first and we can discuss a price.  That also prevents any hassle I have because I files I have listed exclusive at Fotolia or Alamy.  Smugmug, Flickr, PSA, or whatever I think is a good idea because you can back up your files online and get them safely out of your house.  Hopefully, try and pick a company that is safe from going bankrupt.  Probably wasn't much fun for the people who had photos on Digital Railroad.

Here's my smugmug page if you want to check it out.  www.cappi.smugmug.com

« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2008, 18:17 »
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For 30 bucks you can get a pro account on Fotki with unlimited uploads by FTP. You can even download your stuff by FTP if you loose it. I signed up a couple of months ago and I'm pretty happy so far. You can integrate your Fotki gallery into your website. Here is my Fotki site

http://asianimage.fotki.com/

hali

« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2008, 12:11 »
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why would you want to put them on flickr?
they don't buy images from you there, only take it for free.

like flemishdream said, if you put a link to your microsites there, they will deactivate the link, or worst, ban you.
i found that out early many months ago, so i deleted my account. not worth it.
they don't bring sales, they only attract many good photographers who don't know about stock sales . which is a pity, because i know some really good photographers on flickr. only they don't like to "sell their images for 25 cents" because they "lose the control of their photos". 
not sure what that means, when flickr takes their photos to use for free.
but hey, it's their images, not mine ! ::)

RacePhoto

« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2008, 18:37 »
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I didn't think this mattered to most people here, so I didn't post it. "Dear AT&T Internet Service member:

As an AT&T Internet member, you currently receive a free Flickr Pro (a Yahoo! company) account as part of your service. However, beginning January 31, 2009, your free Flickr Pro account will be changing to a free Flickr account, which has some differences and limits. You can read more about the differences at: http://www.flickr.com/help/limits " And this When you have a free Flickr account, you can upload 100MB worth of photos each calendar month. This is a bandwidth limit, and not an amount of space that you have on Flickr servers.

I don't have a Flickr account, have no desire to start one, don't use the formerly included ATT&T Yahoo account. I have my own website which costs about $100 a year, which gives me complete control over materials, storage and what anyone else can see or download.

Keeping control of ones own photos means, that once something is out in the wild, being sold on Micro for 25c to a dollar, and it has sold RF, the photographer pretty much loses control of what's done with their photos. You don't know who bought it or where it's being used. As we've seen here, the also leads to some abusive uses, theft, being merged into CD collections and some stockpiling for the future, which none of us will ever be able to track or control. That's what losing control means.  ;D

I only upload photos that I feel are "stock" enough and generic, for RF use on Microstock sites. Letting go is part of giving up control. That's what Microstock ends up being. Giving up control and selling your images. If I think it's something different, then it goes up RM or licensed.
 
After Photoshelter going out of stock and the recent non-success of new stock sites, micro, macro and storage like DRR... I don't know why SmugMug would want to get into stock. They are a nice, well run site. Perhaps someone there has a death wish?  :o

« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2008, 19:27 »
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For 30 bucks you can get a pro account on Fotki with unlimited uploads by FTP. You can even download your stuff by FTP if you loose it. I signed up a couple of months ago and I'm pretty happy so far.

Fotki is a great bargain and very reliable. I've been using them for years and have a couple hundred gigs of images stored with them.

RacePhoto

« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2008, 22:19 »
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For 30 bucks you can get a pro account on Fotki with unlimited uploads by FTP. You can even download your stuff by FTP if you loose it. I signed up a couple of months ago and I'm pretty happy so far.


Fotki is a great bargain and very reliable. I've been using them for years and have a couple hundred gigs of images stored with them.


Nice site, and free image hosting. This is a test... nice subject, sensor sizes.




« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2008, 08:51 »
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What about Picasa?

« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2008, 15:25 »
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I got the same message from Flickr as an AT&T customer. I  I currently have two free Flickr Pro accounts, but now that I have to pay, I will keep only one as I have thousands of pictures there. I use it for personal pictures only, not for stock. I can use the free acount for stock as I want to have examples of my stock photos there, for increased visibility. of course, everything in small sizes and watermarks.

I was really not happy with what Yahoo and AT&T did. It's really bad when they take an existing service (Flickr Pro) and not offer it anymore, for the same monthly fee.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2008, 17:29 »
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I got the same message from Flickr as an AT&T customer. I  I currently have two free Flickr Pro accounts, but now that I have to pay, I will keep only one as I have thousands of pictures there. I use it for personal pictures only, not for stock. I can use the free acount for stock as I want to have examples of my stock photos there, for increased visibility. of course, everything in small sizes and watermarks.

I was really not happy with what Yahoo and AT&T did. It's really bad when they take an existing service (Flickr Pro) and not offer it anymore, for the same monthly fee.

I have had several sales generated from my Flickr account ... one a nice Purina Feeds Ad.  I won't, however, pay for the Pro Account that was supposed to have been a lifetime agreement when Yahoo dumped the folio to Flickr.  That slight-of-hand move reminds me of Fotolia.   >:(

RacePhoto

« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2008, 04:21 »
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I got the same message from Flickr as an AT&T customer. I  I currently have two free Flickr Pro accounts, but now that I have to pay, I will keep only one as I have thousands of pictures there. I use it for personal pictures only, not for stock. I can use the free acount for stock as I want to have examples of my stock photos there, for increased visibility. of course, everything in small sizes and watermarks.

I was really not happy with what Yahoo and AT&T did. It's really bad when they take an existing service (Flickr Pro) and not offer it anymore, for the same monthly fee.

I have had several sales generated from my Flickr account ... one a nice Purina Feeds Ad.  I won't, however, pay for the Pro Account that was supposed to have been a lifetime agreement when Yahoo dumped the folio to Flickr.  That slight-of-hand move reminds me of Fotolia.   >:(

This is the short version of a much longer story. Prodigy Internet was purchased by SBC. At that point they dropped some free account services and features, including killing the Communities, forums, chat and special interest groups, which were one of the attractions for many people. At that point Yahoo became the content provider. Yahoo groups are horrible, tragically lame, difficult to navigate and poorly organized. Shortly after becoming SBC/Yahoo, it became AT&T, but the email servers and front pages are now yahoo. They don't add much, but they keep taking away. For those who might look, I'm still a AT&T DSL customer, because I like the service and the price, but they have a long history of changing things, mostly removing services and features.

Back in the early days of trying to find ways to make more money, Prodigy Dialup started charging for email. Ha, was that a killer. Some dimwit in accounting didn't see that the members would flee the service, and that sure was poorly thought out move.

I don't know that removing the formerly free Flikcr account will have the same effect, but for people who used it, it sure stinks.

« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2008, 10:51 »
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For 30 bucks you can get a pro account on Fotki with unlimited uploads by FTP. You can even download your stuff by FTP if you loose it. I signed up a couple of months ago and I'm pretty happy so far. You can integrate your Fotki gallery into your website. Here is my Fotki site

http://asianimage.fotki.com/


Hi shiyali
Your website on fotki is very nice I am thinking of  signing up for a pro account selling prints may be a good idea
my question is are you selling prints on a steady basis.
Jack

CCK

« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2008, 08:48 »
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I uploaded a photo on Flickr after it was rejected by all microstock agencies. Within 3 days I was contacted by a news agency, asking to buy it. So I sold the photo after all.

RacePhoto

« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2008, 20:04 »
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Just happened upon my unused account with Flickr on AT&T. Now I see why it will never be used. I wonder if they will cancel if I have watermarked pictures with stock sites listed?  ::) Not really that bad, except for the last line.

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Free Account:

    * 100 MB monthly upload limit (10MB per photo)
    * 3 sets
    * Photostream views limited to the 200 most recent images
    * Post any of your photos in up to 10 group pools
    * Only smaller (resized) images accessible (though the originals are saved in case you upgrade later)

On a free account, Flickr limits the number of photos displayed.

If you have fewer than 200 photos, we display them all. If you have more than 200 photos, only the most recent 200 are displayed.

Note: If your free account is inactive for 90 consecutive days, it will be deleted.


« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2008, 20:12 »
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Note: If your free account is inactive for 90 consecutive days, it will be deleted.



Wow, thanks RacePhoto for pointing this out, I missed this "little" note as it is not written there in the main paragraph about limits of the free account. I already renew one Pro account that I had for free, but now I'm thinking what to do with the other one. I didn't mind having two different ones so far as they were for free, but to pay for both it might be too much.


« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2009, 00:36 »
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Note: If your free account is inactive for 90 consecutive days, it will be deleted.

That's curious, because I have an account there, never uploaded anything to it, and it is still valid (just checked it). Maybe because my Yahoo account itself is active?

Regards,
Adelaide


 

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