Author Topic: Several illustrations refused at SS because i use a Sample LOGO (I need help) (Read 5660 times)

Mrblues101 · « **on:** May 27, 2013, 10:47 »

So, i upload several illustration last week and i was waiting for review, this morning, the review process was done and I was very surprised to see that the illustration where i use a sample logo was refused and the say:

Please remove all elements related to corporate identity, branding, mark, emblem, insignia or logo.

The sample logo was something like this:

http://postimg.org/image/iybi4r919/

So i use a circle with the text "YOUR LOGO HERE" and in the middle a dove or a olive wreath.

I use this to show that you can put in this part of the illustration the logo of your company or institution, i also use sample texts with "LOREM IPSUM" to show that you can put text in certain parts of the illustration.

So, im still a newbie and i dont know if the illustrations were rejected correctly, I want to hear some feedback from you before contacting SS support.

Thanks in advance

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #1 on:** May 27, 2013, 11:40 »

I always wondered if a white background with the text "Your illustration here" would sell...
I am sure it would.

Mrblues101 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 27, 2013, 11:51 »

Quote from: Oligo on May 27, 2013, 11:40

I always wondered if a white background with the text "Your illustration here" would sell...
I am sure it would.

Maybe I did not explain well the situation

My illustrations are so complex, and in a certain part of the illustration you have space for the logo, so in this part i put the sample logo.

Sometimes is important that the client (or buyer) see the illustration with sample texts in the place that he will put his own text, and in this case, also a sample logo.

gostwyck · « **Reply #3 on:** May 27, 2013, 12:59 »

Quote from: Oligo on May 27, 2013, 11:40

I always wondered if a white background with the text "Your illustration here" would sell...
I am sure it would.

Good idea. Maybe if I leave my lens cap and click the shutter button I could call it "Macro of inside black plastic lens cover, suitable for background"

Maui · « **Reply #4 on:** May 27, 2013, 13:17 »

Quote from: Mrblues101 on May 27, 2013, 10:47

So i use a circle with the text "YOUR LOGO HERE" and in the middle a dove or a olive wreath.

Perhaps your sample logo looked too similar to a real logo to the inspector. Just remove it and put a plain text in its place.

Mrblues101 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 27, 2013, 13:21 »

Quote from: Maui on May 27, 2013, 13:17

Quote from: Mrblues101 on May 27, 2013, 10:47
So i use a circle with the text "YOUR LOGO HERE" and in the middle a dove or a olive wreath.

Perhaps your sample logo looked too similar to a real logo to the inspector. Just remove it and put a plain text in its place.

OK, thank you for a "non-joking" response about the issue

I will change my illustration and reupload.

DiscreetDuck · « **Reply #6 on:** May 27, 2013, 14:18 »

I always was unable to understand that selling logo(s) for a few cents was smthg that had to be taken seriously...

Mrblues101 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 27, 2013, 14:27 »

Quote from: Oligo on May 27, 2013, 14:18

I always was unable to understand that selling logo(s) for a few cents was smthg that had to be taken seriously...

Well, as i explain you before, my illustrations are so complex, and i also include a simple "sample logo" to show how a logo looks in the illustration, so then the buyer can put his own logo (the logo or his company or institution)

Is the customizable part of the illustration.

EmberMike · « **Reply #8 on:** May 27, 2013, 15:13 »

Don't use the word "logo". Not in the image, in keywords, etc. That word tends to result in rejections pretty often, as SS tries to discourage any suggestion that a stock image can be used as a logo.

Mrblues101 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 27, 2013, 15:20 »

Quote from: EmberMike on May 27, 2013, 15:13

Don't use the word "logo". Not in the image, in keywords, etc. That word tends to result in rejections pretty often, as SS tries to discourage any suggestion that a stock image can be used as a logo.

Ok, maybe this was the main problem, thank you for your help

click_click · « **Reply #10 on:** May 27, 2013, 16:09 »

As long as you created all elements of the illustration yourself (dove, olive wreath) - supply a property release stating that this is your creating.

This olive wreath looks awfully similar. I might have seen that somewhere else before.

Mrblues101 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 27, 2013, 16:16 »

Quote from: click_click on May 27, 2013, 16:09

As long as you created all elements of the illustration yourself (dove, olive wreath) - supply a property release stating that this is your creating.

This olive wreath looks awfully similar. I might have seen that somewhere else before.

Well, both, olive wreath and dove are my own creation, but they are very simple designs and look like others illustrations (specially olive wreath).

I think this happends with very simple illustrations or simple icons, like the man and woman icon in the "Men's room" and "Women's room"; you can creat your own, but still will look like other ones...

w7lwi · « **Reply #12 on:** May 27, 2013, 20:40 »

The use of the word "logo" either on the image itself, in the description or in the keywords is forbidden by SS. That will always get you a rejection. Seems counter-intuitive as that's one of the top 100 keywords, but that's the latest rule. If you want to put some general text in the image, such as "your message here" or some such, that's fine. Just never, ever, refer to anything as a logo.

Mrblues101 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 27, 2013, 20:56 »

Quote from: w7lwi on May 27, 2013, 20:40

The use of the word "logo" either on the image itself, in the description or in the keywords is forbidden by SS. That will always get you a rejection. Seems counter-intuitive as that's one of the top 100 keywords, but that's the latest rule. If you want to put some general text in the image, such as "your message here" or some such, that's fine. Just never, ever, refer to anything as a logo.

Yes, i think this is the problem, but; where can i read a "rule list" or guidelines that show all this details. I mean, the only way to learn about this kind of things (eg. you cannot use the word logo in the illustrations) is making the mistake and then asking or searching for info?

w7lwi · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2013, 21:16 »

Quote from: Mrblues101 on May 27, 2013, 20:56

Quote from: w7lwi on May 27, 2013, 20:40
The use of the word "logo" either on the image itself, in the description or in the keywords is forbidden by SS. That will always get you a rejection. Seems counter-intuitive as that's one of the top 100 keywords, but that's the latest rule. If you want to put some general text in the image, such as "your message here" or some such, that's fine. Just never, ever, refer to anything as a logo.

Yes, i think this is the problem, but; where can i read a "rule list" or guidelines that show all this details. I mean, the only way to learn about this kind of things (eg. you cannot use the word logo in the illustrations) is making the mistake and then asking or searching for info?

Yes they are really quite remiss in keeping the listed rules up-to-date. Shutterbuzz has the current list of rules, but as I said, it's not always current. This was mentioned in their forums sometime back that this was the rule. I think if you pose the question on their Illustrators forum, someone there may be able to point you to the rule source.

You may also wish to keep in mind that some other sites don't allow text of any sort on the images. Graphic Leftovers for example. So if you intend to submit to other agencies, you'll either have to keep two different master images, of drop text altogether.

Mrblues101 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 27, 2013, 21:21 »

Quote from: w7lwi on May 27, 2013, 21:16

Quote from: Mrblues101 on May 27, 2013, 20:56
Quote from: w7lwi on May 27, 2013, 20:40
The use of the word "logo" either on the image itself, in the description or in the keywords is forbidden by SS. That will always get you a rejection. Seems counter-intuitive as that's one of the top 100 keywords, but that's the latest rule. If you want to put some general text in the image, such as "your message here" or some such, that's fine. Just never, ever, refer to anything as a logo.

Yes, i think this is the problem, but; where can i read a "rule list" or guidelines that show all this details. I mean, the only way to learn about this kind of things (eg. you cannot use the word logo in the illustrations) is making the mistake and then asking or searching for info?

Yes they are really quite remiss in keeping the listed rules up-to-date. Shutterbuzz has the current list of rules, but as I said, it's not always current. This was mentioned in their forums sometime back that this was the rule. I think if you pose the question on their Illustrators forum, someone there may be able to point you to the rule source.

You may also wish to keep in mind that some other sites don't allow text of any sort on the images. Graphic Leftovers for example. So if you intend to submit to other agencies, you'll either have to keep two different master images, of drop text altogether.

Yes, i remove the text of the original files when i upload to other agencies that dont allow text.

Well, thank you for your advice W7lwi

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