Author Topic: Recognizable faces of people on the street (Read 5773 times)

florin1961 · « **on:** September 18, 2012, 11:20 »

Hi,
For me it is unclear in which situations can post images taken on streets, where people's faces are recognizable.
Can anyone clarify me?
Thanks

traveler1116 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2012, 11:30 »

Editorial or if you get a release for each person then you can license them commercially.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2012, 11:44 »

Quote from: florin1961 on September 18, 2012, 11:20

Hi,
For me it is unclear in which situations can post images taken on streets, where people's faces are recognizable.
Can anyone clarify me?
Thanks

You can "post" whatever images you like. What you can "use" them for is another issue.

CD123 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 18, 2012, 15:47 »

Stock sites (or at least those which are worth submitting to) will reject them if you do not have a model release for every person in the picture. You might also have a problem with buildings in the street, as you will need property releases for them as well. You can only submit these pictures else as editorial images, but not all the sites accepts editorial images.

stockastic · « **Reply #4 on:** September 18, 2012, 16:59 »

I don't do those sorts of photos, but I've heard (here) that the agencies can be quite obsessive about it, demanding releases even for people seen in the distance as dark silhouettes.

cascoly · « **Reply #5 on:** September 19, 2012, 18:17 »

and then there are sites like YAY which has started requiring model releases for editorial images too!

CD123 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2012, 18:38 »

Quote from: cascoly on September 19, 2012, 18:17

and then there are sites like YAY which has started requiring model releases for editorial images too!

When did this happen?

I submitted editorials with people in it about 3 months ago without a problem.

ShadySue · « **Reply #7 on:** September 19, 2012, 18:55 »

Quote from: cascoly on September 19, 2012, 18:17

and then there are sites like YAY which has started requiring model releases for editorial images too!

That'll be fun for crowd scenes, demonstrations, streetlife, customers in a market, public events, etc etc etc.

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2012, 01:09 »

Quote from: CD123 on September 19, 2012, 18:38

Quote from: cascoly on September 19, 2012, 18:17
and then there are sites like YAY which has started requiring model releases for editorial images too!

When did this happen? I submitted editorials with people in it about 3 months ago without a problem.

I submit editorial images to Yay all the time and have never encountered that. Would be interested in a few more details of what happened. It's happened to me a few times at Shutterstock because the Editorial box became unchecked during the submission process (or I forgot to check it in the first place!). Regards, David.

Linda - YayMicro · « **Reply #9 on:** September 20, 2012, 03:06 »

Hi!

Just to clarify - we don't demand model releases for editorial images. If an image is added as editorial but the content is not editorial we'll ask for a model release, and that the image should be marked creative.

If you take an image of a crowd on the street you should make sure that it's a crowd. 2-3 people in a street does not make an editorial photo, in general. You should also make sure that the description includes date and place, including street name and the like.

Cheers,

Linda

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cascoly · « **Reply #10 on:** September 20, 2012, 13:45 »

Quote from: Linda - YayMicro on September 20, 2012, 03:06

Hi!

Just to clarify - we don't demand model releases for editorial images. If an image is added as editorial but the content is not editorial we'll ask for a model release, and that the image should be marked creative.

If you take an image of a crowd on the street you should make sure that it's a crowd. 2-3 people in a street does not make an editorial photo, in general. You should also make sure that the description includes date and place, including street name and the like.

Cheers,

Linda

YAY Images

i had several images accepted years ago that suddenly got bounced and needed model releases, also, some new editorial were bounced saying they needed model releases ALSO -- here's part of the email responses you sent:

>>> If people in an image are recognizable, and it's not a news image you will need model releases. Blurred faces alone is not enough to ensure this. We are stricter on this now, as there is a general move towards stricter policies. We don't want YAY or any of our photographers and customers to experience a law-suit.

>>>>>Editorial is not a category for random public images. The image must have a clear new value, or show a specific situation to illustrate an editorial article. Especially when it comes to images of single persons or small crowds there need to be a very specific setting in order for an image to be editorial. The image should not show anything that easily could be shoot as a creative image with model releases.

As for street scenes and the like I will recommend you to go for large crowds, and to make sure to specify place, time, names of streets, buildings and the like.

====================
the requests for model releases didnt say they would then be accepted as creative, so maybe i misunderstood you, but the replies were ambiguous. if you're changing your definition of editorial, that's your choice but it's definitely confusing -- eg from a recent submission:

identifiable image of street musician - accepted as editorial, no release

images of skiers at top of slope - unidentifiable - "need model release"

overview of a ski village with dozens of skiers - accepted as editorial, no releases

several shots of crew unfurling a sail high on a tall ship, unidentifiable, different angles & composition - some accepted, others rejected as needing releases

cascoly · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2012, 22:00 »

thanks, Linda, that makes a lot more sense - it was especially confusing since a couple of the images were ones that had been accepted a long time ago; others were recent.

but we're still faced with the problem of reviewers having differing opinions on what's 'newsworthy'

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