Author Topic: Rejected Application to Istock Help! (Read 18846 times)

ShadySue · « **Reply #50 on:** March 11, 2013, 13:02 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 11, 2013, 12:59

Quote from: ShadySue on March 11, 2013, 12:55
The poll seems to show that indies do much better on SS, but exclusives would need to submit to every agency around to make the same amount of money.
Of course indies do better on Shutterstock, exclusives don't submit to Shutterstock. Exclusives make more than submitting to every other agency. Maybe you could rewrite this so I can understand what you are trying to say.

I already did.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 11, 2013, 13:03 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 11, 2013, 12:54

Quote from: heywoody on March 11, 2013, 12:44
Quote from: tickstock on March 10, 2013, 23:38
Quote from: heywoody on March 10, 2013, 13:29
Exactly the same effort, skill and creativity goes in to an XS as an XXL so why folks get their knickers in a twist over the size of a download is beyond me.
Money. My last XXXL was for $27.50 and my last L Vetta was for $33. Maybe you are getting more than 25 cents but it would still take 100 XXXL sales on Shutterstock to equal one Large Vetta sale.

If you’re getting loads of Vettas and XXXLs that’s great for as long as the market supports those kind of prices. There really isn’t anything to suggest that IS is offering significantly better or different product to the others so hard to see buyers continuing to pay so much more.
I think you are very wrong here. I don't think the market can support 25 cent subs (ok Luis an average of 70 cents, happy now) because if that was my only option I would find another job, it's not worth producing this work for that pay. Prices on all the other sites need to go up (doubt royalties will so that is the next best thing) if microstock is going to be a viable option for us full timers. I know you guys that are part time or do this as hobby have different goals and expectations but mine are to make a full time living doing this.

again you are based in jack, not to mention you can't even talk/know about other goals/ambitions but yep all stock industry is about you coz you are a top notch niche photographer

tickstock · « **Reply #52 on:** March 11, 2013, 13:08 »

ShadySue · « **Reply #53 on:** March 11, 2013, 13:28 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 11, 2013, 13:08

Have you read some of the woo-yay threads on here about people getting 2 sales in a month or how they got one payout on a site after a year. That's what I'm talking about, nothing wrong with being happy about that, it's just a different goal from me. I've never said I'm a top notch photographer or a niche photographer, I'm not, but that doesn't mean I can't make a full time living or set that as my goal.

If you read the monthly sales thread at iS, you'll see that for most established contributors, downloads are falling rapidly. Raising prices can't sustain that for ever.

Devil and deep blue sea.

tickstock · « **Reply #54 on:** March 11, 2013, 13:35 »

heywoody · « **Reply #55 on:** March 11, 2013, 15:34 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 11, 2013, 13:35

Quote from: ShadySue on March 11, 2013, 13:28
Quote from: tickstock on March 11, 2013, 13:08
Have you read some of the woo-yay threads on here about people getting 2 sales in a month or how they got one payout on a site after a year. That's what I'm talking about, nothing wrong with being happy about that, it's just a different goal from me. I've never said I'm a top notch photographer or a niche photographer, I'm not, but that doesn't mean I can't make a full time living or set that as my goal.
If you read the monthly sales thread at iS, you'll see that for most established contributors, downloads are falling rapidly. Raising prices can't sustain that for ever.

Devil and deep blue sea.
Yeah it's true. Other sites are cheaper and they pay less out to contributors. Hopefully people get fed up with that and things change. I see you're still exclusive though so it must not be too bad.

When supply outstrips demand prices fall. IS will adapt to the market or it will go under. Unfortunately we have to deal with the world as it is, not how we would like it to be.

ShadySue · « **Reply #56 on:** March 11, 2013, 18:07 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 11, 2013, 13:35

Quote from: ShadySue on March 11, 2013, 13:28
Quote from: tickstock on March 11, 2013, 13:08
Have you read some of the woo-yay threads on here about people getting 2 sales in a month or how they got one payout on a site after a year. That's what I'm talking about, nothing wrong with being happy about that, it's just a different goal from me. I've never said I'm a top notch photographer or a niche photographer, I'm not, but that doesn't mean I can't make a full time living or set that as my goal.
If you read the monthly sales thread at iS, you'll see that for most established contributors, downloads are falling rapidly. Raising prices can't sustain that for ever.

Devil and deep blue sea.
Yeah it's true. Other sites are cheaper and they pay less out to contributors. Hopefully people get fed up with that and things change.

People are not fed up with that. All the cheers these days are for SS. It used to be iS. Next week, next year .. ?

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I see you're still exclusive though so it must not be too bad.

That would be one interpretation. Other interpretations are available.
Suffice it to say that no-one starves on days like today when I have 0 dls.

Lizard · « **Reply #57 on:** March 11, 2013, 20:09 »

what

undercut,subs, stats,market,diversions and the poor guy just asked some help over 3 images review ?

Dude your first is to hot and bit underexposed, second it not for initial review and third one would probably pass if it was accompanied with some better 2.

My main hint is that they like to see at least one people shot in application review.

And for they story that somehow developed from that simple question.... its very interesting how some peoples posts contain strong attitudes in
one hand... while they are working on some photo "disambiguation" in the other tab...

pixel8 · « **Reply #58 on:** March 11, 2013, 20:12 »

So even though this has gone off topic its still a learning opportunity for me so here is my question based on what has been posted. What are the following abbreviations -

Large Vetta ?
SODs
ODs
RPD
Subs

ShadySue · « **Reply #59 on:** March 11, 2013, 20:20 »

Quote from: pixel8 on March 11, 2013, 20:12

So even though this has gone off topic its still a learning opportunity for me so here is my question based on what has been posted. What are the following abbreviations -

Large Vetta ?
Large sized Vetta image at iS. Vetta is one of their collections, more expensive, by exclusive and pseudo exclusive members only. Agency is another collection, but more expensive.
SODs
ODs
... Something on SS, someone will no doubt be along to explain. It's non-sub sales.
RPD
Return per download.
Subs
Sales by subscription packages, as opposed to cash sales or credit bundles

Lizard · « **Reply #60 on:** March 11, 2013, 20:21 »

I will do subs...

Subs are when they sell your work very cheap and manage to convince u that without that invention the image
would never been sold.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #61 on:** March 11, 2013, 20:24 »

Quote from: pixel8 on March 11, 2013, 20:12

So even though this has gone off topic its still a learning opportunity for me so here is my question based on what has been posted. What are the following abbreviations -

Large Vetta ?
SODs
ODs
RPD
Subs

Vetta is the hurray collection top notch pictures (only for iStock exclusives)
Single & Other Downloads is a license at Shutterstock (can go from around 90 cents to 120$), pretty much it can be a one time license or for sensitive use
On Demand is another license from Shutterstock where buyers get more expensive plans (less downloads for buyers for more $, like 10 downloads for 10$ per example)
RPD is rate per download (like 70 cents per sale)
subs are subscriptions, like the one SS has for 250$ (25 downloads / day)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #62 on:** March 11, 2013, 20:38 »

Quote from: Lizard on March 11, 2013, 20:21

I will do subs...

Subs are when they sell your work very cheap and manage to convince u that without that invention the image
would never been sold.

you can always leave all stock agencies, ok not all but 95%

vlad_the_imp · « **Reply #63 on:** March 12, 2013, 02:08 »

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If you read the monthly sales thread at iS, you'll see that for most established contributors, downloads are falling rapidly. Raising prices can't sustain that for ever.

This is, of course, not necessarily true. If you read the monthly sales thread at IS you will read how the few people who bother to report there are doing. That is not the same thing as ' how most established contributors' are doing. In fact, numerous people who report either BME or WME, upon looking at their accounts, are nothing like 'established contributors' but are often people who only get a few sales a month and to whom an additional few sales less or more in a month can hugely skew results.
I'm not saying downloads aren't falling, they've been doing that for years, but extrapolating results from a few forum posts is about as un-scientific as it's possible to be.

leaf · « **Reply #64 on:** March 12, 2013, 02:43 »

I've removed a few posts and modified one.

In response to some of the posts that were removed/modified

This is the newbie area so anyone who feels they are "above" helping out someone else, or are tempting to add sarcasm to underline how much more you know than them, please keep your comments to yourself.

For reference, here is a wiki page with acronyms. I've also added a couple that Luis just explained
http://www.microstockgroup.com/wiki/index.php?title=Microstock_Acronyms

Zethinova · « **Reply #65 on:** March 12, 2013, 04:04 »

Quote from: shudderstok on March 09, 2013, 19:54

Quote from: Zethinova on March 09, 2013, 19:40
Quote from: Microbius on January 25, 2013, 07:55
You should probably wait until 2nd Feb and resubmit. I hear they will need a lot more contributors after that.

Lol! Why is that? (I'm curious)

because there is a small contingent of photographers that hate IS. if you are good at what you do IS is second to none (in my opinion) to any other microstock agency.

Thanks. And yeah, you have to be like SUPER good! They're very picky.

Jesus bless you.

gillian vann · « **Reply #66 on:** March 19, 2013, 03:53 »

Quote from: Zethinova on March 12, 2013, 04:04

Quote from: shudderstok on March 09, 2013, 19:54
Quote from: Zethinova on March 09, 2013, 19:40
Quote from: Microbius on January 25, 2013, 07:55
You should probably wait until 2nd Feb and resubmit. I hear they will need a lot more contributors after that.

Lol! Why is that? (I'm curious)

because there is a small contingent of photographers that hate IS. if you are good at what you do IS is second to none (in my opinion) to any other microstock agency.

Thanks. And yeah, you have to be like SUPER good! They're very picky.

actually one of the things I like about iS is how picky they are. they often find errors other agencies didn't, and when they have a reason for rejecting I believe them (ouch, it hurts to be told you're not good enough at isolations), whereas when the others hand out their nonsensical rejections I just roll my eyes.

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