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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2015, 10:03 »
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You guys need to step into the 21st century. Really. You can't keep hanging on to the past. If you ignore mobile technology you only will hurt yourself in the end.

Mobile is just a way to access data thru wireless technology, i can do the same with a laptop and pretty happy about that ... i'm losing nothing sticking with a legacy phone since it does voice calls and SMS and that's all i need and that's what a phone should be all about.


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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2015, 10:04 »
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I can watch a movie on my phone, but it makes more sense to watch it on my ipad. And if I really want to get the most out of it, I need to watch it on a 60" TV screen with surround sound. CAN I use my phone for everything, sure. SHOULD I use my phone for everything? No.  :)

yes, mobiles can do anything but it's still the worst way to do these tasks ... audio, video, email, chat, whatever, and even games are a lot better on a bigger screen.


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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2015, 10:10 »
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You guys need to step into the 21st century. Really. You can't keep hanging on to the past. If you ignore mobile technology you only will hurt yourself in the end.

Mobile is just a way to access data thru wireless technology, i can do the same with a laptop and pretty happy about that ... i'm losing nothing sticking with a legacy phone since it does voice calls and SMS and that's all i need and that's what a phone should be all about.
You are missing the point.

If you dont optimise your site, you will lose customers. Simple as that. I use my mobile phone to buy stuff online. If the site is not optimised, no purchase. I am using my phone to read stuff online. If its not optimised, I will read the competitor website who is optimised. You are thinking what YOU are doing. You need to think what your CUSTOMERS will do.

Anyway, there are lots of examples of big established companies who stuck their head in the sand and refused to accept changing times and technology and went bankrupt. During most of the 20th century Kodak held a dominant position in photographic film, and in 1976, had a 90% market share of photographic film sales in the United States. They didnt follow suit with digital photography and went bust in 2014.

I dont care what you and Cathy do on your desktop, I do all my editing on a desktop as well, but you cant deny mobile technology. Embrase it. I never understood why people categorically refuse to accept changing technology. I guess it is a sort of stubbornness or maybe just a way of trying to be different then others, just to be different for the sake of it.

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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2015, 10:10 »
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And neither it is cool to be ALWAYS POSITIVE even when encountering BS, unfairness, injustice etc.....

I'm surprised they're still taking seriously all this "think positive" rubbish propaganda that is going on since decades.

There are so many things going totally negative in the West i wouldn't know where to start, and i consider myself a positive guy, go figure.

The "millennials" are a lost generation, i wouldn't like to be born now and facing a future with no hope like they do now, that's maybe why they're so addicted to games and social networks as a way to escape reality.

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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2015, 10:12 »
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Hobostocker, I like you, I love your direct way of putting things, I really do, but you never came across as a positive character  ;)

« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2015, 11:28 »
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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2015, 13:05 »
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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2015, 13:30 »
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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2015, 13:41 »
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You guys need to step into the 21st century. Really. You can't keep hanging on to the past. If you ignore mobile technology you only will hurt yourself in the end.

Seriously!  I was beginning to wonder if I had logged on to an AARP  or pensioners forum!

Next we'll be hearing what a character builder it was walking 10 miles to school in the snow.  ::)

The world moves on whether any of us likes it or not.  Fine if you don't embrace new tech, but in a tech business, which we are in, you better hope your agents/distributors are optimized for new technology.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2015, 13:47 by PixelBytes »

« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2015, 14:07 »
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You guys need to step into the 21st century. Really. You can't keep hanging on to the past. If you ignore mobile technology you only will hurt yourself in the end.

Seriously!  I was beginning to wonder if I had logged on to an AARP  or pensioners forum!


Spot on...well said....lol!

« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2015, 14:13 »
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I guess Top Tier does have mob version of their sites.
Mid and Low Earners, I have no idea.
It will be interesting to see the effect on sales from this change.

Checked a few low earner sites. Few of them are mobile responsive too.
Why not FT ?   :o

« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2015, 14:18 »
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I guess Top Tier does have mob version of their sites.
Mid and Low Earners, I have no idea.
It will be interesting to see the effect on sales from this change.

Checked a few low earner sites. Few of them are mobile responsive too.
Why not FT ?   :o

I am puzzled too about FT.
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=www.fotolia.com

Page appears not mobile-friendly
- Text too small to read
- Links too close together
- Mobile viewport not set
- Content wider than screen

« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2015, 14:40 »
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Maybe they aren't mobile friendly because they have done research and there aren't enough customers BUYING with a mobile device.  ;)

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Seriously!  I was beginning to wonder if I had logged on to an AARP  or pensioners forum!

LOL, too funny! When all else fails, put other people down.  ;)
« Last Edit: April 23, 2015, 14:43 by cathyslife »

« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2015, 14:50 »
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Maybe they aren't mobile friendly because they have done research and there aren't enough customers BUYING with a mobile device.  ;)


It's not about that. Ranking in google search is at risk and therefore sales too!

"The algorithm will start favoring mobile-friendly websites ones with large text, easy-to-click links, and that resize to fit whatever screen they're viewed on and ranking them higher in search. Websites that aren't mobile-friendly will get demoted.
This change could be apocalyptic for millions of websites, which could suddenly find that they've lost their coveted ranking."

Time will tell...


« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2015, 15:11 »
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so does it drop site ranking on search from a large screen, or only in the search from a small screen (which makes sense, since you might not want to see a non-mobile friendly page on your mobile device)?

« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2015, 15:11 »
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The day I buy a phone that cost twice the price of a laptop and doesn't even fit in my pocket, shoot me.

« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2015, 15:32 »
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"Google first announced its impending changes back in February, giving webmasters nearly two months to make the changes necessary to keep their sites from disappearing from mobile search results, as well as a way to test whether their sites are mobile-friendly yet (and see why not, if they aren't).
But the update is still expected to cause a major ranking shake-up. "


Read more: http://uk.businessinsider.com/how-business-owners-feel-about-google-mobilegeddon-2015-4?r=US#ixzz3YANsFa6W

« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2015, 16:23 »
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there is nothing wrong with keeping in the old school. many things are absolutely garbage these days.. from air guitars, to anne hathaway miming to miley cyrus , to trying to work with a mobile  when a desktop would do much more at much less cost etc
just because jeff beck still play a stratocaster or other guitarist still a  les paul does not mean they have not kept up with the new world. many new kids still swear by humbuckers even though they endorse the new ibanez guitars etc 
mobile issue is the same . it is indeed the herd mentality, of mindless crowd feeling much better following the herd even if they are all headed for a cliff.
cheer them on , as the only people laughing to the bank are the producers of these gadgets.
ask any musician where they are keeping their tons of "new" gadgets and synthesizer,etc
and why they are still playing that old battered gibson or martin or fender.
it's the same in camera stores, where we still carry the film mamiya, hasselblad, bronica, even pentax k1000 not because we like to have a musuem, but photographers still buy them . even the new students .
but we do assign the larger portion of the store to bells and whistles for those who like the newest gadgets and trade in their last year's nik and can for the next new thing every time something comes up. no complaints either, we get paid .
« Last Edit: April 23, 2015, 16:27 by etudiante_rapide »

« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2015, 16:51 »
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Okay, I am confused.  Are we talking about what new technologies we personally do or don't embrace?  Or are we talking about what technologies our agents should be prepared to sell through.  Cuz these are two very different issues. 

I can b*tch all day about the frustrations of smartphones, millenials, facebook, etc.  Just like the film guys b*tched about digital, and the trad guys b*tched about micro.  But the bottom line is, it's happening whether you like it or not, and you should expect your distributors that take up to 85% of the earnings of your hard work to get their a.sses in gear and upgrade their sites to accomodate the way people will search for images 5 years from now, not 5 years ago.

« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2015, 17:01 »
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The way I read the e-mail I got regarding my original site built in 2009 was that ONLY mobile searches would be affected by the downgrade. But I am not confident in this enough to bank on it. And yes people do buy from their phones because I get e-mails from customers who can't figure out how to get their images on their phone. It doesn't matter if I prefer to use a computer, there are a lot of people who do use their phones/pads and I really don't want to lose those customers because I refuse to adapt. FWIW those people are usually the end user who find the image via a google search, purchase it,  and then send it to their printer.

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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2015, 17:20 »
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Quote from: Nikovsk link=topic=24898.msg416518#msg41651t8 date=1429819884
The day I buy a phone that cost twice the price of a laptop and doesn't even fit in my pocket, shoot me.
this is just ignorance. My phone cost me 100 euro and fits my pocket. It also happens to be a Samsung S5. The latest flagship smartphone of Samsung.

« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2015, 02:13 »
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The way I read the e-mail I got regarding my original site built in 2009 was that ONLY mobile searches would be affected by the downgrade. But I am not confident in this enough to bank on it.

The key here is that the same search term should produce different results on different devices. Mobile users may want to navigate to a mobile version of a website - or they may be after accessing information in an accessible way.  Lets say I search for "xxx new film" - on a mobile chances are I will want to see where is is on - which local cinema - this is because I am "on the go". If I search on a computer - then an article on Rotten Tomatoes about it (film review site) might be returned as a search along with the official film site and the Wikipedia entry etc.

For some - not all - searches mobile is designed to return very specific results...

Hobostocker

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« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2015, 04:52 »
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The world moves on whether any of us likes it or not.  Fine if you don't embrace new tech, but in a tech business, which we are in, you better hope your agents/distributors are optimized for new technology.

ok course we must accept this new technology but you will agree with me that as a technology it's a big downgrade compared to using a laptop or a netbook, that's the point, it only makes sense for a small bunch of applications, i heard rants and raves about touch screens and mobile apps since the early 90s and guess what most of what was envisioned never materialized because the technology is not good enough to beat desktops and laptops and never will.

and nobody would think about using tablets if there were slim foldable laptops at similar prices and weight, the best "ultrabook" i've tried were all priced more than 1000$, maybe things will change one day.

Hobostocker

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« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2015, 04:56 »
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Hobostocker, I like you, I love your direct way of putting things, I really do, but you never came across as a positive character  ;)

but don't blame me, i'll be very very positive if we talk about Ultrabooks or Win 10.
my problem with smartphone is its undeniable negative social impact on society as a whole, the first PDAs  were originally designed for useful things actually, like email and business apps, not for random chatting etc., anyone remember the prehistoric Apple Darwin, the Palm Pilot, the Psion .. ? they had a reason to exist unlike actual smartphones.




 

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