8. Listening to classic rock and drinking beer while processing your images
 

Quote from: Photodune Reject on February 25, 2017, 16:02

8. Listening to classic rock and drinking beer while processing your images
 

bach & lagavullin also work

You know you are a true pro in this business when you no longer defend the abuse by certain agencies because it affects your living, not your hobby.

It is a good list as long as you take vet to mean you have been doing it a long time, not necessarily that you ever turned into a serious income stream or do it full time.

Fore example:

1. Don't take Rejections personally and just say whatever

A long time amateur doing this for fun should take this attitude because it's too much stress to worry, a pro would try to understand what they are doing wrong so they can improve to the point where they aren't getting rejections.

3. Laugh at all the negative comments on this site

An amateur or hobbyist should again be laughing because it there's no point getting stressed over something you do for fun. A pro should laugh at a lot of them by people with very small datasets re. conspiracy theories etc. but take very seriously major changes in Terms that will upend your income stream.

6. Laugh at returns by customers even if it is 6 months later

A pro doesn't even think about returns as they are so rare.

10. Knowing editor schedules thus uploading when they aren't there

Don't know any pro that does this or even thinks about it. There are way too many editors at the big sites to have any way of knowing. I would put this on list of conspiracy-type thinking see 3.

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 28, 2017, 03:34

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on February 28, 2017, 03:27

It is a good list as long as you take vet to mean you have been doing it a long time, not necessarily that you ever turned into a serious income stream or do it full time.

Fore example:

1. Don't take Rejections personally and just say whatever

A long time amateur doing this for fun should take this attitude because it's too much stress to worry, a pro would try to understand what they are doing wrong so they can improve to the point where they aren't getting rejections.

3. Laugh at all the negative comments on this site

An amateur or hobbyist should again be laughing because it there's no point getting stressed over something you do for fun. A pro should laugh at a lot of them by people with very small datasets re. conspiracy theories etc. but take very seriously major changes in Terms that will upend your income stream.

6. Laugh at returns by customers even if it is 6 months later

A pro doesn't even think about returns as they are so rare.

10. Knowing editor schedules thus uploading when they aren't there

Don't know any pro that does this or even thinks about it. There are way too many editors at the big sites to have any way of knowing. I would put this on list of conspiracy-type thinking see 3.

on 1 yes don't take it as a personal insult but as a "hobbyist" I take them as a learning opportunity and it the past it helped me improved my technical quality greatly. Have to say though that now the quality of inspection is no longer as rigorous or consistent. Btw most of the conspiracy theories seem to come from people who claim big incomes.......

Very good point re. 1. if you enjoy photography you can still take a rejection as an opportunity to learn. Although a lot of the rejection reasons in micro are/were ones that wouldn't necessarily help me improve my non micro work beyond a certain point.

I haven't noticed that about conspiracy theories. I thought it was mainly the opposite. I guess it depends what you think is a conspiracy theory. The things actually worth complaining about IMHO tend to be very concrete, like a change in contract terms allowing the sale of our work for 2c return for example.

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 28, 2017, 05:50

Remember Gylenns? and various other people who mysteriously disappear? Can't say I've looked too closely so could easily be wrong

I genuinely don't, I tried doing a search for his posts but didn't come up with anything. Did he keep spouting theories? Were you thinking he works for one of the agencies?

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 28, 2017, 06:54

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on February 28, 2017, 06:13

Quote from: Pauws99 on February 28, 2017, 05:50

Remember Gylenns? and various other people who mysteriously disappear? Can't say I've looked too closely so could easily be wrong

I genuinely don't, I tried doing a search for his posts but didn't come up with anything. Did he keep spouting theories? Were you thinking he works for one of the agencies?

Gyllens sorry wrong spelling quite amusing "YadaYadaYada!     thanks but my type of photography is as FAR away from nature as can be!  I do mostly conceptual/studio photography sometimes involving models and lots of real doctors, nurses, lawyers, dentists, you know like real people at work and so on. Thanks anyway.

Sure I will probably lose out the first couple of years considering I have close to a million downloads at SS but even so I am rid of this constant paranoid uploading every five minutes followed by their hysteric search-changes.
Secondly in spite of all their facts and figures I seriously dont believe SS will last during 2017. Its obvious there are other forces at play such as internal/external politics problems and frictions and these things are enough to ground the biggest of corporations no matter how big a turnover."

Thanks for that. It explains why I couldn't find his/her posts. Sounds like they are a huge contributor if they had 1000000 dls on SS alone.