Quote from: stoker2014 on January 21, 2024, 12:19

Quote from: Big Toe on January 21, 2024, 12:02

Quote from: stoker2014 on January 21, 2024, 10:17

Quote from: Wilm on January 21, 2024, 09:14

Did you know that Trump has subsidized farmers - only in Iowa - with more money than the US has provided for Ukraine? You have an idea what "America First" will mean, don't you?

Just so you know, 90% of the money Biden gives to Ukraine remains in the United States. The government pays all this money to factories in the United States so that these factories produce weapons. This is support for the American economy.

I have not checked whether this is true, but if so, isn't that what you want? Haven't you stated repeatedly in the past that the Ukraine does not need money, but weapons?

So where is the problem, when the US money is used to produce weapons for the Ukraine?

I did not write there were problems. There are no problems. I saw that Wilm thinks (and this is how it is presented in the press) that money from Biden goes to the budget of Ukraine. Therefore, I explained how US money actually moves.
Maybe not 90% stay in the USA, but 75%, for example. But I read approximately these numbers.

Then you withdraw your previous complaints that Biden mostly gives money instead of weapons?

No.
1. Very little military assistance was provided.
2. 40% of the money was spent on non-military aid.
3. Military assistance did not include necessary type of weapons that Ukraine needed most.
4. When I write that Ukraine needs not money but weapons, this is my response to the media (and the authors of this forum) and also an indication that Ukraine is not provided with the necessary type of weapons.
5. And these claims apply not only to Biden, but also to the EU.

Avdiivka, Ukraine. War crimes of the Russian army.

https://t.me/air_alert_telegram/76117

Last night I heard something that seemed to explain all the craziness - and dangers - in the world today: "When people don't feel validated, they will create situations or relationships that make them feel valued."

It kind of explains so much. Why good teenagers join destructive gangs, why otherwise sane people join extremist groups and readily take on crazy conspiracy theories, or all their integrity and morals go out the window and blindly follow immoral leaders. Why the woke movement, which started off as a good thing - has gone to crazy extremes, especially among the Millennials and Gen Zs via social media.

Roger Ailes knew this when he started Fox News - to speak to the 'forgotten people'. And how Trump quickly learnt how to pander to and manipulate that base. Of course, Trump himself is a victim of all of this as well - famously trying in vain all his life to gain his father's praise. ("Look dad, I just made another million by fleecing (fund-raising off everything) my voters"  )


Anyway, I just wanted to post this: Fareed's Take this week. And to say, God Help America - and Go Nikki Haley!


Why much of the world worries about a Trump victory

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/01/21/fareeds-take-davos-us-election-gps-vpx.cnn

Russian missile obliterates apartment block section in Kharkiv.
Rescuers are trying to clear the rubble to find those trapped under the rubble of an apartment block section targeted by a Russian missile strike Tuesday morning.

https://youtu.be/QwNdhOeml88

https://youtu.be/cQr_4S2TFnU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/T0udUDu2-GY

Quote from: AMK2022 on January 22, 2024, 15:02

Why much of the world worries about a Trump victory

Part of the world is afraid of him. The Russians, Iran, North Korea, all countries that are part of the axis of evil are afraid of Trump. Trump is feared by European parasites who are friends and trade with the Russians and do not want to spend EU money on security. The EU is pursuing a policy of anti-Americanism, but at the same time the Euro-parasites want the US to provide them with security. With Trump in office, the US will not provide security for the EU unless the EU starts spending money on defense. The EU should also stop trading with russia. Otherwise, very quickly at least half of the EU will be occupied by the Russians. But judging by the opinions of EU residents, they have a good attitude towards Russian orcs and Na.zis, but a bad attitude towards the USA.

Look at the moron praising Orban, Ukraine's biggest enemy in Europe, the same way he is praising putin ("we're getting along fine, we're getting along very well"):

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1749104305947185414

During the time of the hero of Ukraine Stepan Bandera in the 40s and 50s of the 20th century, Ukrainian combat troops eliminated the Russian occupiers quite successfully. And this was with zero help from democratic countries.
I think that Ukraine can wait for the Republicans in 2025 without help from the EU.

Bandera was a fuc.king n.a.z.i

Quote from: Lizard on January 18, 2024, 18:11

Quote from: Wilm on January 18, 2024, 17:31

Oh really, that's really incredible! Jesus! How evil all the Ukrainians are! Unbelievable!

Meanwhile, the billionaire Russian oligarchs and their children are going directly and personally to the front to defend Russia against the evil Ukrainians, right? Because they would never have the heart to let the financially poor average Russian fight for their fortune. What good people the Russians are compared to the Ukrainians!

And there are thousands of very rich Russians out there

Keep the focus on spending money on overpriced food so that private entities could get richer and buy hotels in in countries where taxpayers are pretty much forced to finance the war...more precisely Tetiana Glyniana and similar.

Tetjana is nicely living between Britain and Croatia, and she will never be accountable for her acts and nor will thousands like her.

And as I recall, we are not financing Russia 

This is so wonderful! Great point! 👏👏👏

Are you now trying to say that putin's invasion of a sovereign country is justified by some weird ambition to exterminate corruption in a different country than russia, while russia is one of the most corrupt countries there is?

While putin is ruthlessly exterminating innocent civilians and children, you (like your russian friend zastavkin before) are constantly spinning and deflecting toward irrelevant matters, since you don't have any meaningful way to defend his murders and atrocities.

If Russia planned to deploy nuclear weapons in Canada, US would do the same. They are the same. US are not bothered for 10.000 children killed in Gaza in couple of weeks with the weapons they financed.

The truth about Trump's last term in office:

1. Trump was bad for the US and world economy.** Trump raised US Debt by nearly $8 trillion. In only 4 years he contributed to nearly 1/4 of its current national debt, more than any other president in that time frame. Excessive debt has a very negative impact on a country's economy, particularly mid- and long-term, and on other countries as well.

https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

2. During his 4 years in office, his administration rolled back 100 environment rules and legislation. USA is currently facing a climate crisis according to a long-awaited federal climate report, (November 2023) which delivered a blunt warning: Rapidly curb planet-warming emissions or face dire consequences to human health, infrastructure and the economy.  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-changes-threatens-every-facet-of-u-s-society-federal-report-warns/

3. Trump's mental health can be a serious danger to America and the rest of the world. In Trumps final weeks in office, General Milley, head of the Pentagon's Joint Chief's had to stop Trump's 'going rogue' on China. "General Li, I want to assure you that the American government is stable, and everything is going to be okay," Milley told him. "We are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you." In a second call, Milley told Li, "We are 100 percent steady. Everything's fine. But democracy can be sloppy sometimes."

Milley made the second call because he believed Trump, enraged at his loss, had suffered a mental decline after the November 3 outcome � a view Milley shared with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The authors of a book released in 2021 obtained a transcript of a call between Pelosi and Milley in which Pelosi told the general, "He's crazy. You know he's crazy," referring to Trump.  https://www.voanews.com/a/6227396.html

4. Trump wants USA to leave NATO. According to a recent POLITICO news report, during the 2020 World Economic Forum in Davos, then US President Donald Trump told European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, in a private meeting, the following: �you need to understand that if Europe is under attack we will never come to help you and to support you, and by the way NATO is dead, and we will leave, we will quit NATO.�  https://www.weeklyblitz.net/featured/trump-tells-ursula-von-der-leyen-nato-is-dead-and-we-will-leave/


** The problem with economies is that the economic cycle is on average about 6 years. Presidents often inherit the previous president's good - or bad - economic decisions at the beginning of their term.

The truth about Trump's last term in office:

1. Trump was bad for the US and world economy.** Trump raised US Debt by nearly $8 trillion. In only 4 years he contributed to nearly 1/4 of its current national debt, more than any other president in that time frame. Excessive debt has a very negative impact on a country's economy, particularly mid- and long-term, and on other countries as well.

2. During his 4 years in office, his administration rolled back 100 environment rules and legislation. USA is currently facing a climate crisis according to a long-awaited federal climate report, (November 2023) which delivered a blunt warning: Rapidly curb planet-warming emissions or face dire consequences to human health, infrastructure and the economy.  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-changes-threatens-every-facet-of-u-s-society-federal-report-warns/

3. Trump's mental health can be a serious danger to America and the rest of the world. In Trumps final weeks in office, General Milley, head of the Pentagon's Joint Chief's had to stop Trump's 'going rogue' on China. "General Li, I want to assure you that the American government is stable, and everything is going to be okay," Milley told him. "We are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you." In a second call, Milley told Li, "We are 100 percent steady. Everything's fine. But democracy can be sloppy sometimes."

Milley made the second call because he believed Trump, enraged at his loss, had suffered a mental decline after the November 3 outcome � a view Milley shared with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The authors of a book released in 2021 obtained a transcript of a call between Pelosi and Milley in which Pelosi told the general, "He's crazy. You know he's crazy," referring to Trump.  https://www.voanews.com/a/6227396.html

4. Trump wants USA to leave NATO. According to a recent POLITICO news report, during the 2020 World Economic Forum in Davos, then US President Donald Trump told European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, in a private meeting, the following: �you need to understand that if Europe is under attack we will never come to help you and to support you, and by the way NATO is dead, and we will leave, we will quit NATO.�  https://www.weeklyblitz.net/featured/trump-tells-ursula-von-der-leyen-nato-is-dead-and-we-will-leave/


** The problem with economies is that the economic cycle is on average about 8 years. Presidents often inherit the previous president's good - or bad - economic decisions at the beginning of their term. A president should be judged at the end of their term on whether they were good or bad for the economy.

Yes, Trump is dangerous! For NATO, for the Ukraine and for the rest of the world.

And unfortunately, I am relatively certain that he will win the election. After that, we can all prepare ourselves for massive problems. And anyone sitting there in the USA who believes that this will be a problem for the rest of the world and not for the USA is wrong!

In my view, Trump is a person who craves recognition. It is his elixir of life.

How does he get this important drug?

If he gets rid of the Ukraine conflict as quickly as possible. Supporting Ukraine costs money. He lacks this money at home in the USA to be celebrated by his supporters and, maybe, his opponents. Ukraine only brings losses. Losses are bad for your own agenda.

Gains - that's what Trump needs. A few billion in subsidies for farmers, a few billion for the coal industry and so on. That lifts the mood in the USA. Ukraine is too far away and won't win votes. The music is playing at home. In the USA. America first.

And once people there are better off because they have more money in their pockets, the model works.

He probably doesn't care at all whether people in Europe are beating their heads in. He doesn't care about that. He is probably even aware that this could possibly have an impact on the USA. But it's still so secondary to his ego that he doesn't care for the time being. The cheers of the crowd come first.

 
Il-76 aircraft crashes in Russia's Belgorod Oblast: Ukrainian Armed Forces confirm operation.

https://t.me/war_monitor/14138

There were also 63 Russian terrorists on the plane.


Glory to Ukraine!

In my view, Trump is a person who craves recognition. It is his elixir of life.

How does he get this important drug?

If he gets rid of the Ukraine conflict as quickly as possible. Supporting Ukraine costs money. He lacks this money at home in the USA to be celebrated by his supporters and, maybe, his opponents. Ukraine only brings losses. Losses are bad for your own agenda.

Gains - that's what Trump needs. A few billion in subsidies for farmers, a few billion for the coal industry and so on. That lifts the mood in the USA. Ukraine is too far away and won't win votes. The music is playing at home. In the USA. America first.

And once people there are better off because they have more money in their pockets, the model works.

He probably doesn't care at all whether people in Europe are beating their heads in. He doesn't care about that. He is probably even aware that this could possibly have an impact on the USA. But it's still so secondary to his ego that he doesn't care for the time being. The cheers of the crowd come first.

Wilm, the entire US military industry belongs to the Republicans. Money directed to military factories will give the Republicans orders and profits. The war in Ukraine and the sending of weapons to Ukraine is primarily beneficial only to the Republicans. And we also see this in the cowardly and hypocritical policies of Biden and the Democrats. It is simply not profitable for Democrats to spend a lot of money on weapons; this money ends up going to Republicans. 

if Trump got back in he would pull out of NATO and hand Ukraine to his good buddy Putin on day one.