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« Reply #2600 on: February 19, 2024, 14:03 »
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Only 5% of exports from Ukraine go through Poland. Now the Poles are blocking the transportation of weapons needed for the front.


« Reply #2601 on: February 19, 2024, 14:08 »
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RalfLiebhold, look at the religion in the countries that were part of the Russian empire, for example Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan.
Russians have been hiding their Asian essence and their Asian roots for several centuries. They appeared recently, have no history, are trying to steal the history of Ukrainians and are trying look like Europeans.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2024, 14:11 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #2602 on: February 19, 2024, 14:10 »
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So. Russians are Asians, religion is Islam. Everything else is lies and KGB propaganda.

Oh Stoker, what kind of weird reasoning is that?

I've traveled and worked a lot in Asia and had to swallow.

Of course there are Muslims on the Asian continent.
The fact that the overall proportion is around 25% on the continent as a whole has to do primarily with Indonesia, which has a large population.
However, Buddhists and Hindus make up the majority. There are also smaller ethnic religions, Christians and so on. Islam is therefore more of a minority throughout Asia.

It can't be that difficult. If you have other clues from your secret sources, then let me know. I like to learn and can also revise my opinion.

His "source" is the one I already mentioned a few times above.
He is caught with his pants down... again... and does not have the courage to admit his mistake.

What a sad individual!

« Reply #2603 on: February 19, 2024, 14:12 »
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Zero Talent, you are a troll.

« Reply #2604 on: February 19, 2024, 14:36 »
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Oxford University professor Karl Abel (1837-1906) claimed that at the end of the 19th century only in the European part of Russia lived 40 million Finno-Tatars and only 15 million purely Slavic.

Abel, Carl Slavic and Latin. Ilchester lectures on comparative lexicography, delivered at the Taylor institution, Oxford, 1883.

« Reply #2605 on: February 19, 2024, 15:41 »
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RalfLiebhold, look at the religion in the countries that were part of the Russian empire, for example Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan.
Russians have been hiding their Asian essence and their Asian roots for several centuries. They appeared recently, have no history, are trying to steal the history of Ukrainians and are trying look like Europeans.

Yes, all of these states are predominantly Muslim. But they are not part of today's Russia.

I live on the Dutch border, but that doesn't make me Dutch.

« Reply #2606 on: February 19, 2024, 15:42 »
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Oxford University professor Karl Abel (1837-1906) claimed that at the end of the 19th century only in the European part of Russia lived 40 million Finno-Tatars and only 15 million purely Slavic.

Abel, Carl Slavic and Latin. Ilchester lectures on comparative lexicography, delivered at the Taylor institution, Oxford, 1883.

Carl Abel, not Karl.

In the Russian census of 1897, 11.7% of the population were Muslims. Russia had 125.7 million inhabitants, four-fifths of whom lived in the European part of Russia. Of the 125.7 million Russians, 3.7 million were Tatars. Those of these Tatars who emigrated to Finland between 1870 and 1920, i.e. the Finno-Tatars, were only a tiny proportion. There is something wrong with your figures. I think you have added one too many zeros to the 4 and one too many Finno before the word Tatars.

« Reply #2607 on: February 19, 2024, 18:36 »
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Zero Talent, you are a troll.

Not at all. I am simply fact-checking your outlandish assertions.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2024, 18:39 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #2608 on: February 19, 2024, 19:03 »
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Oxford University professor Karl Abel (1837-1906) claimed that at the end of the 19th century only in the European part of Russia lived 40 million Finno-Tatars and only 15 million purely Slavic.

Abel, Carl Slavic and Latin. Ilchester lectures on comparative lexicography, delivered at the Taylor institution, Oxford, 1883.

Carl Abel, not Karl.

In the Russian census of 1897, 11.7% of the population were Muslims. Russia had 125.7 million inhabitants, four-fifths of whom lived in the European part of Russia. Of the 125.7 million Russians, 3.7 million were Tatars. Those of these Tatars who emigrated to Finland between 1870 and 1920, i.e. the Finno-Tatars, were only a tiny proportion. There is something wrong with your figures. I think you have added one too many zeros to the 4 and one too many Finno before the word Tatars.

He didn't even bother to read the book he is quoting.

Because if he had done his homework, he would have realized that he already had the answer.
The author, Carl Abel is saying (see book screenshot below):

"It was only in the reign of the Empress Elizabeth Petrovna  (1741-1762) that the Mordva Finns of Nishni, Novgorod, Simbirsk, Samara, Pensa, Saratoff, Kasan, and Astrakhan were forced to adopt Christianity"


So, those Finno-Tatar Russians became Christians centuries ago.

A different paragraph in the same book refers to Finno-Russian priests, another proof that they had already embraced Christianity long before this book was published in 1883 (when Carl Abel was clearly working hand-in-hand with the KGB 😂).

"The Slavo-Russian marries for love; the Finno-Russian is married by his father, with the assistance of the mediating priest. The priest frequently acts as a paid agent, and the father and the priest, in estimating feminine worth, prefer bones that will stand labour to beauty that is only skin-deep." 

Our friend is clearly confusing genetic ancestry and religion.

We already established many pages ago that russians have a significant component of Finno-Uralic/Siberian ancestry.
That's nothing new. I'm attaching that map again.

That's not making them Muslims.

Genetics does not define one's religion. There is no Muslim gene.  ::)

russia is predominantly Orthodox Christian, and that's an indisputable fact for the whole world, except for our gullible, delusional friend and those few in his informational bubble who feed him the nonsense he is posting here unchewed.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2024, 23:24 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #2609 on: February 20, 2024, 03:21 »
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RalfLiebhold, look at the religion in the countries that were part of the Russian empire, for example Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan.
Russians have been hiding their Asian essence and their Asian roots for several centuries. They appeared recently, have no history, are trying to steal the history of Ukrainians and are trying look like Europeans.

Yes, all of these states are predominantly Muslim. But they are not part of today's Russia.

I live on the Dutch border, but that doesn't make me Dutch.
I answer everyone at once:
Russia is mainly a Muslim country. Russians are Asians.
These two statements do not mean that if a person is Asian, then he must necessarily be Muslim. For example, China, Asians live there, but it is not a Muslim country.
russia is primarily a Muslim country for several reasons:
1. In recent years, there has been a huge birth rate among Muslims and a decline in the birth rate among Russians. Also, Russians are genetic alcoholics and drug addicts, which also leads to their disappearance.
2. A lot of Muslims from the countries of Central Asia and the Caucasus go to russia to work and as migrants. Muslims give birth to many children and therefore their number is constantly growing, while the number of Russians is decreasing.
Also, many Muslims permanently living in russia are not citizens of russia and it is hardly possible to even count them. So we have a territory where Muslims mainly live.

And you all probably thought that if you are Asian, then you are immediately Muslim?  ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: February 20, 2024, 04:53 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #2610 on: February 20, 2024, 04:47 »
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In the Russian census of 1897
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Since the time of your German Catherine the Great, who ruled the Russians in the 18th century, the Russians have been lying and rewriting their history. All this was done on her orders. Therefore, any information starting from the time of this German woman is a lie.
So you Germans are responsible for the Russian empire that now exists. You raised this monster!

Better read Carl Abel and others, and also understand better why Russians are Asians.

German bitch Catherine the Great
Finally absorbed Ukraine: destroyed the Cossack Hetmanate (1764) and Zaporozhian Sich (1775), introduced serfdom, carried out Russification.
The list of crimes of Catherine II against the Ukrainian people, in particular:
1763 Decree of Catherine II prohibiting teaching in the Ukrainian language at the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy.
1764 Abolition of the Ukrainian Hetmanate by Catherine II, as well as liquidation of Ukrainian educational and cultural institutions and removal of Ukrainian-speaking officials from power.
1764 1765 Abolition of the Ukrainian state of the Hetmanship by Catherine II and liquidation of the Cossack system in the Slobojan region.
1766 Prohibition of the Kyiv-Pechersk Lavra to print primers and church books in the Ukrainian language and without the permission of the Synod.
1775 The treacherous attack of Moscow troops on Zaporozhian Sich and its destruction after the decisive help of the Zaporozhians in the Russian-Turkish war of 176874 pp.
1777 Eviction of Crimean Tatars from Crimea and Ukrainians from Ukraine, and resettlement of Muscovites in the places inhabited by them.
1780 The burning of the library of the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy, which had been gathering for more than 150 years and was one of the richest libraries in Eastern Europe.
1781 Destruction of the remnants of Cossack self-government on the Left Bank and introduction of the Russian system of administration.
1783 The final serfdom of the peasants of the Left Bank of Ukraine. Suppression by Catherine II of the Ukrainian national liberation movement Koliiv Oblast in 1768 and the Turbaiv Uprising of 17891793.
1795 Liquidation of Ukrainian Statehood.

Germans, you and the Russians need to pay for crimes against Ukrainians.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2024, 05:50 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #2611 on: February 20, 2024, 04:50 »
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Zero Talent, thanks to me you will learn a lot of new things for yourself. You must pay me money!

russia is Orthodox Christian
In fact, there is Orthodox fascism there.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2024, 06:15 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #2612 on: February 20, 2024, 04:55 »
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I think you have added one too many zeros to the 4 and one too many Finno before the word Tatars.
I didn't add anything.

« Reply #2613 on: February 20, 2024, 04:58 »
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Due to trolling from Zero Talent, we have been distracted from the topic of the EU and its security. We need to figure out how many Muslims already live in Germany, what they are doing, what they plan to do, and what connections they have with the KGB.
But Zero Talent began trolling and working for Russian propaganda and US Democrats. Diversion from the topic is trolling.

« Reply #2614 on: February 20, 2024, 05:19 »
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« Reply #2615 on: February 20, 2024, 06:54 »
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RalfLiebhold, look at the religion in the countries that were part of the Russian empire, for example Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan.
Russians have been hiding their Asian essence and their Asian roots for several centuries. They appeared recently, have no history, are trying to steal the history of Ukrainians and are trying look like Europeans.

Yes, all of these states are predominantly Muslim. But they are not part of today's Russia.

I live on the Dutch border, but that doesn't make me Dutch.

Russia is mainly a Muslim country..


No!

« Reply #2616 on: February 20, 2024, 07:04 »
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Yes, Russian propaganda and disinformation are strong in Germany. Good job KGB.

« Reply #2617 on: February 20, 2024, 07:39 »
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Diversion from the topic is trolling.

Fact: the original post made by Uncle Pete, (hence this topic) was about elections in the USA. Go back to the 1st page and check ;)

Zero Talent, thanks to me you will learn a lot of new things for yourself. You must pay me money!

russia is Orthodox Christian
In fact, there is Orthodox fascism there.

As I have advised on numerous occasions, you should do your homework first (for example, read the books you are quoting) instead of regurgitating what your handlers are saying and posting misunderstood nonsense here, without thinking, only to desperately try to find an alternative explanation when you are confronted with facts.

With your intolerant attitude, you are doing a huge disservice to Ukraine.

By your flawed logic, Dubai is "mainly" a Hindu country, not Muslim, because there are more temporary workers from India in Dubai than the native population.

Anyway, even with Muslim immigrants from former Soviet republics, Russia is still a predominantly Orthodox Christian country. This is an indisputable fact.

Of course, I did not know about Carl Abel's book. Unlike you, I read the first part related to history. If you would have bothered to read it, you could have learned that he is also saying that before converting to Christianity, the Finno-Russian held pagan beliefs (thus not Islamic, probably Shamanic).
The next parts of the book are about language differences, and I cannot follow them.

But I understand why the book is important for Ukraine in today's information war. It is probably one of the first western authors to flag that Ukrainians and Russians are not identical.
This is something already known today by anyone with a minimal interest in history, who is not brainwashed by putin's propaganda.

As I already mentioned on numerous other occasions, russia is also a fascist state.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2024, 08:34 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #2618 on: February 20, 2024, 08:34 »
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Diversion from the topic is trolling.
Fact: the original post made by Uncle Pete, (hence this topic) was about elections in the USA. Go back to the 1st page and check ;)
I constantly write in this thread that Biden is a bas.tard and his place is in the electric chair. I also provide evidence of his criminal policies.

« Reply #2619 on: February 20, 2024, 08:36 »
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Russia is still a predominantly Orthodox Christian country. This is an indisputable fact.
::) ::) ::)
Go to the Russians, they will accept you into their army.

You didn't understand what I wrote to you. If you continue to claim that russia is an Orthodox country, then at least write the truth - that Orthodox fascism in russia. This means that the Russian Church is the mouthpiece and ideologist of fascism.

russia is also a fascist state.
Not only russia, but its church too.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2024, 08:44 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #2620 on: February 20, 2024, 08:46 »
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when you are confronted with facts.
For you, Russian lies and propaganda are facts. For me no.  :)

« Reply #2621 on: February 20, 2024, 08:48 »
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he is also saying that before converting to Christianity, the Finno-Russian held pagan beliefs (thus not Islamic, probably Shamanic).
This is true. For me these are axioms. This is new knowledge for you.  ;D

« Reply #2622 on: February 20, 2024, 08:53 »
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dumb cult followers out of $400 golden sneakers. That's precisely what a true leader is expected to do. 🤮


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"I've wanted to do this a long time," the former president said when he announced the launch of a sneaker line.

"The Never Surrender sneakers are your rally cry in shoe form. Lace- up and step out ready to conquer," the website says, referring to the shoes as a "true collector's item" that is "bold, gold and tough, just like President Trump."

https://www.dw.com/en/trump-hawks-399-golden-sneakers-after-court-ordered-fine/a-68290500

 8)

« Reply #2623 on: February 20, 2024, 09:06 »
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Yes, Russian propaganda and disinformation are strong in Germany. Good job KGB.

 ::)

It really makes no sense with you. But it's clear that you're a Trump supporter. Because you also love lies and "alternative facts".

By the way: The fact that there is a war in Ukraine and that the earth is a sphere is Russian propaganda. Good job KGB.

« Reply #2624 on: February 20, 2024, 09:08 »
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after Avdiivka, Rabotino have been next prey for Russians something is going on, they sre moving superfast after a fall of Avdiivka


 

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